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Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power
Reply #270 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:46pm

mozzaok wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:35pm:

We have abundant natural gas, all over australia, we could convert all our base load power to gas far more quickly, and far more inexpensively, than with nuclear.

Nuclear makes no sense in a country with so much natural gas that we sell it to california for 3 cents a litre.

It may make no sense, but that is what the Greens and the ALP are forcing upon Australia. An alternative to the ultra cheap coal energy.

And the BEST alternative to coal is nuclear.

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power Reply #272 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 7:33pm And still no link Maybe Ernie is the missing link?
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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power Reply #274 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 7:36pm Where's the link that a nuclear power plant costs $10billion
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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power Reply #276 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 7:38pm So where is the link?
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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power Reply #278 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 7:40pm Still no link.
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Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power
Reply #280 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 7:42pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:46pm:

mozzaok wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:35pm:

We have abundant natural gas, all over australia, we could convert all our base load power to gas far more quickly, and far more inexpensively, than with nuclear.

Nuclear makes no sense in a country with so much natural gas that we sell it to california for 3 cents a litre.

It may make no sense, but that is what the Greens and the ALP are forcing upon Australia. An alternative to the ultra cheap coal energy.

And the BEST alternative to coal is nuclear.

Are you really that stupid, or is this deliberate obtuseness some charade you play just to annoy people?

I just told you we already have abundant Natural Gas, that is far, far cleaner than any coal powered generation, about 60 odd percent cleaner from memory, that we can utilise far more quickly, and far more cheaply, than any Nuclear option.

What is difficult to comprehend about that?

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Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power
Reply #281 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 8:05pm

mozzaok wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 7:42pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:46pm:

mozzaok wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:35pm:

We have abundant natural gas, all over australia, we could convert all our base load power to gas far more quickly, and far more inexpensively, than with nuclear.

Nuclear makes no sense in a country with so much natural gas that we sell it to california for 3 cents a litre.

It may make no sense, but that is what the Greens and the ALP are forcing upon Australia. An alternative to the ultra cheap coal energy.

And the BEST alternative to coal is nuclear.

Are you really that stupid, or is this deliberate obtuseness some charade you play just to annoy people?

I just told you we already have abundant Natural Gas, that is far, far cleaner than any coal powered generation, about 60 odd percent cleaner from memory, that we can utilise far more quickly, and far more cheaply, than any Nuclear option.

What is difficult to comprehend about that?

So you claim that the natural gas is cheaper than coal.
Do you have a link to that or are we merely meant to accept your ignorant comment?

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Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power
Reply #282 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 8:38pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 8:05pm:

mozzaok wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 7:42pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:46pm:

mozzaok wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:35pm:

We have abundant natural gas, all over australia, we could convert all our base load power to gas far more quickly, and far more inexpensively, than with nuclear.

Nuclear makes no sense in a country with so much natural gas that we sell it to california for 3 cents a litre.

It may make no sense, but that is what the Greens and the ALP are forcing upon Australia. An alternative to the ultra cheap coal energy.

And the BEST alternative to coal is nuclear.

Are you really that stupid, or is this deliberate obtuseness some charade you play just to annoy people?

I just told you we already have abundant Natural Gas, that is far, far cleaner than any coal powered generation, about 60 odd percent cleaner from memory, that we can utilise far more quickly, and far more cheaply, than any Nuclear option.

What is difficult to comprehend about that?

So you claim that the natural gas is cheaper than coal.
Do you have a link to that or are we merely meant to accept your ignorant comment?

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far more cheaply, than any Nuclear option.

Your replies are just confirming the view that is building about your comprehension skills.

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Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power
Reply #283 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 8:44pm

mozzaok wrote on Dec 7^th, 2010 at 5:35pm:

We have abundant natural gas, all over australia, we could convert all our base load power to gas far more quickly, and far more inexpensively, than with nuclear.

Nuclear makes no sense in a country with so much natural gas that we sell it to california for 3 cents a litre.

Natural gas produces Co2, which nuclear doesn't...

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Re: ALP flip flop on Nuclear Power
Reply #284 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 9:05pm

Yes it does, but far, far less. My previous recollection of more than 60% less is accurate.

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Gas vs Coal

The CO2 emissions from Natural Gas Combined Cycle (NGCC) plants are reduced relative to those produced by burning coal given the same power output because of the higher heat content of natural gas, the lower carbon intensity of gas relative to coal, and the higher overall efficiency of the NGCC plant relative to a coal-fired plant (1).

“The average emissions rates in the United States from natural gas-fired generation are: 1135 lbs/MWh (Mega Watt hours) of carbon dioxide, 0.1 lbs/MWh of sulfur dioxide, and 1.7 lbs/MWh of nitrogen oxides. Compared to the average air emissions from coal-fired generation, natural gas produces half as much carbon dioxide, less than a third as much nitrogen oxides, and one percent as much sulphur oxides at the power plant.”(

http://www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/gas-vs-coal.html

You can see the basics at that site.

I think we should have transitioned to Natural Gas years ago, and I know they are building plants down near Warrnambool,(one at Orford, across the road from my friend's house, and one near Mortlake) as there are massive amounts of gas there.

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