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Reply #1050 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 12:26pm
 
Doubt on cattle trial's impartiality

Melissa Fyfe
February 20, 2011

THE independence of the Baillieu government's controversial alpine grazing trial has been called into question, with the revelation that
cattle farmers
have raised money for the scientist leading the experiment.

This comes as federal
Greens MP Adam Bandt this week finalises Commonwealth environment law amendments designed to force the Gillard government to shut down the trial
, which has reintroduced 400 cattle into Victoria's Alpine National Park.

The Baillieu government chose the University of Sydney's Mark Adams to run the trial, which it says will measure whether grazing reduces high-country fire risk. Cattle were banned from the park by the Bracks government in 2005.

The Mountain Cattlemen's Association of Victoria has since campaigned to return to the park. Last year, the Coalition promised grazing would resume. Since January, cattle have grazed in the park at no cost to the cattlemen.

A 2009 edition of the association's journal Voice of the Mountains reveals that the group considered Professor Adams an ''ally'' and pledged $10,000 to his research into the impact of grazing and low-intensity fires on water production in catchments.


Then president Christa Treasure wrote:
''The cattlemen see his work as vital to our cause and we have pledged $10,000 this year
… But he needs $500,000 a year to continue his long-term study - if anyone would like to donate … please contact our secretary.''


http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/doubt-on-cattle-trials-impartiality-20110219-1...



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Reply #1051 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 12:36pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 12:26pm:
Doubt on cattle trial's impartiality

Melissa Fyfe
February 20, 2011

THE independence of the Baillieu government's controversial alpine grazing trial has been called into question, with the revelation that
cattle farmers
have raised money for the scientist leading the experiment.

This comes as federal
Greens MP Adam Bandt this week finalises Commonwealth environment law amendments designed to force the Gillard government to shut down the trial
, which has reintroduced 400 cattle into Victoria's Alpine National Park.

The Baillieu government chose the University of Sydney's Mark Adams to run the trial, which it says will measure whether grazing reduces high-country fire risk. Cattle were banned from the park by the Bracks government in 2005.

The Mountain Cattlemen's Association of Victoria has since campaigned to return to the park. Last year, the Coalition promised grazing would resume. Since January, cattle have grazed in the park at no cost to the cattlemen.

A 2009 edition of the association's journal Voice of the Mountains reveals that the group considered Professor Adams an ''ally'' and pledged $10,000 to his research into the impact of grazing and low-intensity fires on water production in catchments.


Then president Christa Treasure wrote:
''The cattlemen see his work as vital to our cause and we have pledged $10,000 this year
… But he needs $500,000 a year to continue his long-term study - if anyone would like to donate … please contact our secretary.''


http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/doubt-on-cattle-trials-impartiality-20110219-1...




Doubt on cattle trial's impartiality Melissa Fyfe
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THE independence of the Baillieu government's controversial alpine grazing trial has been called into question, with the revelation that cattle farmers have raised money for the scientist leading the experiment.

This comes as federal Greens MP Adam Bandt this week finalises Commonwealth environment law amendments designed to force the Gillard government to shut down the trial, which has reintroduced 400 cattle into Victoria's Alpine National Park.

The Baillieu government chose the University of Sydney's Mark Adams to run the trial, which it says will measure whether grazing reduces high-country fire risk. Cattle were banned from the park by the Bracks government in 2005.

Advertisement: Story continues below The Mountain Cattlemen's Association of Victoria has since campaigned to return to the park. Last year, the Coalition promised grazing would resume. Since January, cattle have grazed in the park at no cost to the cattlemen.

A 2009 edition of the association's journal Voice of the Mountains reveals that the group considered Professor Adams an ''ally'' and pledged $10,000 to his research into the impact of grazing and low-intensity fires on water production in catchments.

Then president Christa Treasure wrote: ''The cattlemen see his work as vital to our cause and we have pledged $10,000 this year … But he needs $500,000 a year to continue his long-term study - if anyone would like to donate … please contact our secretary.''

Current association president Mark Coleman said the $10,000 ''tentative pledge'' was offered to Professor Adams, but not accepted. In an email to The Sunday Age, Professor Adams said the University of Sydney has ''never accepted or been offered funds'' from the cattlemen. But the Victorian National Parks Association says the pledge puts a question mark over his relationship with the cattlemen.

''Mark Adams seems to have been given this job without any due process. It is clear he was hand-picked for this job. We need to go back to square one and have an independent group of scientists look at the research needed in the park,'' said spokesman Phil Ingamells.

Mr Coleman said Professor Adams, the university's dean of agriculture, food and natural resources, works in fields of interest to the association. ''It is quite proper, indeed [the association] has a responsibility to its members, to take an interest.''

The reference to Professor Adams as an ''ally'' must be taken in context, he said.

The Baillieu government has refused to answer questions about the cost of the trial and how much Professor Adams is being paid.

The Department of Sustainability and Environment also told The Sunday Age that aspects of the trial have the support of the Australian Academy of Science. The academy, however, reiterated last week that it does not support the trial in its present form and believes it will not produce ''credible scientific evidence''.

The Victorian National Parks Association has received a report from consultants Ecology Australia that says the trial breaches Victoria's National Parks Act. This is backed by legal advice from the Environment Defende      
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Reply #1052 - Feb 20th, 2011 at 8:42pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 19th, 2011 at 10:38pm:
Verge wrote on Feb 19th, 2011 at 10:10pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 19th, 2011 at 5:25pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 19th, 2011 at 5:04pm:
By the way Buzz you STILL haven't answered.

You declared the flood levy to be only a small amount of budget and affordable.

Please tell us how much you will be paying (seeing as you see it as so small)??

Many thanks.





I will be paying what i am DEEMED to pay under the legislation

ZILCH

I am a self funded
I am semi-retired
I earn WELL under $50K pa



How much SHOULD I pay ?
How much should a PENSIONER - who earns less than I - pay ?



Since you have repeatedly claimed that the levy amount is insignificant, how much will you be contributing on a voluntary basis.





That's about as lame as the "how many refugees live in your house" arguement



I HAVE donated to the flood appeal
As I did the bushfire appeal
I regularly support the local CFA, Hepburn Wildlife Rescue and local state primary school street stalls and raffles (something I'll have to do more often, with the upcoming cuts to public education)

It's how we do it in small communities

I have also been a financial member of the Humane Society for 30 years

It's NOT about money
I wouldnt MISS 20 cents a day

The Federal Government have deemed me "poor enough" to be excused from this tax, tiny though it be



The Federal Government also deemed Andres actions with his income to be excused from tax as well.

You cant have it both ways mate.  I think you are just as immoral for demanding that I have to pay your levy which you wont be even though I have a wife who doesnt work and a baby to support.
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Reply #1054 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 8:27am
 
Verge wrote on Feb 20th, 2011 at 8:42pm:
 I think you are just as immoral for demanding that I have to pay your levy which you wont be even though I have a wife who doesnt work and a baby to support.





We are treated EQUALLY under the levy legislation



I don't pay anything on MY first $50K pa of income ...
And neither do YOU



ALL income based tax has a free threshold
It's just that THIS one is generously HIGH



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Reply #1055 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 8:33am
 
So can we clarify -

You are happy to declare people should pay a levy and are happy to pay nothing because 'it's legal and decided by the Federal Government'.

Yet me paying the CORRECT amount of tax (following discussion and TWO AUDITS by the ATO) is 'immoral'.
(Forgetting for a moment that I paid a lot more into Australia in this same year than you).


Yep - I think LW may be right about your credibility.

Explain that please, because it looks ridiculous right now.
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Reply #1056 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 8:38am
 
Governor a model of refugee made good

February 22, 2011

ALEX Chernov's story is anything but ordinary. Victoria's 28th Governor came to Australia as a 10-year-old boy fleeing war-torn Lithuania after the advancing Red Army killed his father.

Not able to speak English, he remembered being struck by the strange sight of men eating food from newspapers -- fish and chips -- and he had a tendency to skip school.

He went on to have a career as a lawyer, barrister, Supreme Court judge, Court of Appeal judge and then deputy chancellor and chancellor at the University of Melbourne.

But when Mr Chernov was announced by Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu yesterday as the state's new Governor, he was reluctant to speak about his extraordinary life journey.

"I don't want to dwell too much on my past," he told reporters, as his wife, Elizabeth Hopkins, their three children and six grandchildren looked on.

"But I was fortunate to have been brought up in a home where there was great emphasis on ethics, spiritual and ethical development and, importantly, broad education and hard work.

Those lessons have stood me in good stead.
I followed them pretty much all my life."

Mr Chernov, born in 1938 to Russian parents, was described by Mr Baillieu as a great success story of multiculturalism.
His grandfather, murdered by the Bolsheviks, was a minister in Russia's short-lived provisional government established after the 1917 February revolution.

"Alex Chernov brings to the role of governor a wonderful, wonderful story. A story of humble beginnings, a lifetime of hard work, great success and community service at the highest level."


http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/top-stories/governor-a-model-of-refugee-made-goo...





Fine choice, Mr Baillieu
Though the anti-refugee lobby and Armadale set may disagree
Thumbs up, on this one


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Reply #1057 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 8:43am
 
Fine choice, Mr Baillieu
Though the anti-refugee lobby and Armadale set may disagree
Thumbs up, on this one



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Reply #1058 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 11:39am
 
Fine choice, Mr Baillieu
Though the anti-refugee lobby and Armadale set may disagree


I won't put it as strongly as Bwood,  but that is an extremely discriminatory remark from someone who claims not to tolerate discrimination.   Nasty stuff.





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Reply #1059 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 11:45am
 
nichy wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 11:39am:
Fine choice, Mr Baillieu
Though the anti-refugee lobby and Armadale set may disagree


I won't put it as strongly as Bwood,  but that is an extremely discriminatory remark from someone who claims not to tolerate discrimination.   Nast stuff.








It was a PERSONAL jibe at the "Bigoted Brit" in residence - who disapproves of non-anglos in public office in Victoria
No one else
I've lived there myself



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Reply #1060 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 10:50am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 8:33am:
So can we clarify -

You are happy to declare people should pay a levy and are happy to pay nothing because 'it's legal and decided by the Federal Government'.

Yet me paying the CORRECT amount of tax (following discussion and TWO AUDITS by the ATO) is 'immoral'.
(Forgetting for a moment that I paid a lot more into Australia in this same year than you).


Yep - I think LW may be right about your credibility.

Explain that please, because it looks ridiculous right now.




Sorry Buzz you'll have to speak up...

We can't hear you over the deafening silence.
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Reply #1061 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:38pm
 
Here We Go AGAIN -Kennett Revisited

February 22, 2011

The Victorian government has flagged the state's $5 billion regional rail link may be scaled back.

The project, which was a central plank of the former Labor government's $38 billion transport strategy, includes 47 kilometres of new track from Werribee to Southern Cross Station in Melbourne's central business district.

Under the plan, major regional lines including Geelong, Bendigo and Ballarat, would for the first time have their own track into Melbourne.


Public Transport Minister Terry Mulder said today under a
"reprofiling"
of the system, options under consideration included reducing the project's scope and cost cutting.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/cuts-likely-for-regional-rail-link/com...






Does the Baillieu government have the memory of a goldfish? How else do you explain talk of possibly scrapping the $5 billion-plus Regional Rail Link.

Not so long ago, images of dangerously overcrowded platforms and packed trains dominated the news -
a few additional services have not fixed the problem.


Melbourne's rail capacity is insufficient, particularly on key lines in the north and west that will benefit from the regional rail project.

The Regional Rail Link can, should and must be built, for the following reasons.

The link includes 47 kilometres of new track from Werribee to Southern Cross Station and new stations at Tarneit and Wyndham Vale.

Most importantly, the project will separate regional trains from metropolitan trains for the first time, giving Geelong, Bendigo and Ballarat trains their own dedicated tracks through the metropolitan system to Southern Cross Station.

It will help deliver a more reliable service and increased capacity.

In the five years to 2010, patronage on the Bendigo service has jumped by 138.6 per cent, on the Ballarat service by 108.9 per cent and on the Geelong line by 88.6 per cent.


The new rail tracks will also increase capacity on
overcrowded suburban lines
to Werribee, Sunbury and Craigieburn, where some peak-hour trains have recently carried
in excess of 1000 passengers - 800 is considered full.


When Connex chief executive Bruce Hughes announced at a business lunch in June 2008 that lines such as the Sydenham line would reach capacity by the end of the year,
he wasn't being flippant.


Weekday patronage on train lines to benefit from regional rail - such as Sydenham -
has increased by up to 60 per cent in recent years
, with passenger growth on the lines to the west and north well above the Melbourne average
.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/backtracking-on-regional-rail-is-a-per...


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Reply #1062 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 8:43pm
 



One reason that costs blow out on rail projects in Victoria is that we have lost the skill of building rail - delaying or cancelling another project will not tackle that skills deficit.

The Baillieu government, which promised to end the spin, says it is now ''reprofiling'' the project and will make a decision about its future in the coming months.

Questions would quickly be raised if this project were to be shelved and new works were suddenly announced along the Frankston line, where the Baillieu government picked up a swag of seats at the state election, helping it win office.

By all means improve services on the Frankston line - but not at the expense of regional rail.

This unexpected debate about the future of regional rail has hit those in the path of the new rail project the hardest.

Many have made plans to sell up and move, and news of the new review and ''reprofiling'' has put their lives on hold - this has to be cleared up soon.




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Reply #1063 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 7:09am
 
LABOR has no regrets about its decision to sign the controversial desalination contract that could cost households up to $24 billion over the next 30 years.

The key architect of the project former Water Minister Tim Holding said
Victorians will thank the Bracks/Brumby government for its decision when the next drought comes.


"I don't expect bouquets for politicians but I think we will be extremely grateful as a city and a state in years to come
we used the time of the drought to diversify our water sources
,'' he said.

"We now have
a rainfall independent source of water
we know there will be dry years in the future and as our population grows this desalination plant will be a city saver. It will save our cities from future droughts and insure the city against population growth.''

Mr Holding also defend the decision to build a big desalination and said he would do the same if he had his time over again.

"It was the lowest cost option,'' he said.

Mr Holding slammed the Coalition government's attacks as being just political point scoring.

He said it is a fixed the price contract at $5.7 billion and that hasn't changed since it was first signed in mid 2009.


"The figures being bandied about our inflation adjusted dollars that seek to calculate the value of a dollar in 30 years time,'' he said.

"They are not relevant it is like asking the cost of a litre of milk in 30 years times, the cost of a loaf of bread in 30 years time... it doesn't provide any meaningful terms for Victorians.''


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/melburnians-face-rocketing-water-bills...
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Reply #1064 - Mar 2nd, 2011 at 8:06am
 
More waste from Labor - what a fine mess they left with the desal plant and Myki.

Disgusting.

At least Brumby said he wouldn't leave if he lost so we can still ask him in parliament..... no wait hang on.

Must have been lying to win an election. Jeez it must be catching.....
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