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Reply #1440 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:14pm
 
Verge wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:04pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 2:58pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 2:50pm:
Must you write in different colors?
It's either juvenile or incredibly homosexual.



Turn your monitor to B&W if it frustrates you


What do you think of the NEW speed camera culture ?


Pretty much as to expected ?






So you dont see it as a rude jesture on your behalf to fellow posters who dont see the need to color in and highlight unless wanting to make something specific stand out?

All it does Buzz is make the pages stretch out and you think your own words require more emphasis than anyone elses.

Arrogant much?




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Reply #1441 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:14pm
 
HOW the State Budget breaks down by department:
HEALTH

Start of sidebar. Skip to end of sidebar.
.End of sidebar. Return to start of sidebar.
$13 billion package including:

- More than half a billion dollars on hospital upgrades;

- 800 new hospital beds, to cost $448 million over four years;

- $241.9 million to halve ambulance membership fees;

- $151 million to employ 340 extra paramedics and patient transport staff;

- $88 million mental health package.

TRANSPORT

Seven new trains for Melbourne will be purchased worth $222 million.

Planning work will begin on new train lines to Doncaster, Rowville and Avalon and Tullamarine airports.

Initial work to reduce 10 level crossings in Melbourne.

EDUCATION

$11 billion for education including:

- $25 million slashed from School Start Bonus;

- Non-government schools to receive a $240 million boost;

- $208 million to renovate government schools;

- $100 million for school maintenance fund;

- $24 million 100 maths and science specialists;

- 150 extra primary welfare officers, along with 250 existing officers, at a cost of $124 million.

HOUSING

$400 million over five years to halve stamp duty by 2014.

First homebuyers will save up to $6200 on stamp duty from July this year. This will rise to more than $15,000 when the promised 50 per cent cut is implemented in late 2014.

COMMUNITY SERVICES

$98 million over four years to improve child protection and 47 extra full-time child protection workers.

LAW & ORDER

Total spending of $2.1 billion on public safety and crime reduction including:

- $602 million for an extra 1600 police and 100 transit safety police;

- $212 million over four years to fund 940 protective services officers for all metropolitan train stations;

- $30 million to fund police station upgrades and construction;

- An extra 108 male prison beds;

- Neighbourhood watch boosted with reinstatement of local crime statistics.

SMALL BUSINESS

No reduction in payroll tax and just $12.4 million to develop new export markets over four years.

REGIONAL

- $500 million towards the $1 billion regional growth fund;

- $160 million over four years on roads and bridges;

- $20 million for regional aviation;

- $100 million for energy for regions program;

- $100 million local government infrastructure.

EMERGENCY RESPONSE

- Victorian SES to receive $38 million and CFA $67 million boost;

- $676 million funding for the flood recovery outfit;

- $1.4 million for bushfire response planning unit.

ENVIRONMENT AND WATER

- $169m will support the management of Victoria’s parks, including $31m for 65 park rangers over four years;

- $32m in grants for community groups and Landcare;

- $17m to manage weeds and pests on public land;

- $9.5m to improve Port Phillip’s beaches;

- $121m for new water management projects, including a $50m water projects fund, $40m rebates for homes and businesses;

- $5m for household rebates to use energy efficient appliances.

ECONOMY

Forecast surplus of $140 million in 2011-12 with a commitment to achieve minimum surplus of $100 million each year.

Spending growth to drop from eight per cent to 3.2 per cent a year.

Federal government cuts to Victoria’s GST revenue equaling $4.1 billion.

Commonwealth deferral of $550 million in promised infrastructure payments to Victoria.

Cost overruns on key projects under previous state government totaling $2 billion.

TOURISM

$3.5 million over three years to support regional tourism.

SKILLS

- $103 million to reintroduce concession fee places at TAFE;- $35 million for TAFE upgrades.

JOBS

Reform plans for taxes and regulation aimed at boosting competition and jobs amid the effects of declining population growth and rising Aussie dollar, which is putting pressure on exporters in the education, tourism and manufacturing industries.

Job growth is set to dip from a 3.5 per cent in the year to March to just 1.75 per cent  in the next four years.

SPORT

- $25 million over two years for the redevelopment of Skilled Stadium at Kardinia Park;

- $15 million to complete the State Athletics Centre in Albert Park;

- $2 million over four years to eliminate drugs in elite sports;

- $530,000 over four years for the Stawell Gift;

- $800,000 over four years Active Sports Partnership Program.

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Reply #1442 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:16pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:14pm:
Verge wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:04pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 2:58pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 2:50pm:
Must you write in different colors?
It's either juvenile or incredibly homosexual.

Turn your monitor to B&W if it frustrates you

What do you think of the NEW speed camera culture ?


Pretty much as to expected ?



So you dont see it as a rude jesture on your behalf to fellow posters who dont see the need to color in and highlight unless wanting to make something specific stand out?

All it does Buzz is make the pages stretch out and you think your own words require more emphasis than anyone elses.

Arrogant much?




NO


The functions are included for the use of ANYONETo be USED



It's not like I hold some advantage


I have a car that has a car stero that can make your house windows rattle when I drive past but I dont turn it up full noise out of courtsey to my neighbours do I.

Having the ability to do something and having the arrogance to use it all the time in an over the top manner are two different things.
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Reply #1443 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:17pm
 
I see a lot of great things in this budget while still maintaining surpluses.

Cant complain too much about that.

I think its also a pretty conservative budget.  They have applied low numbers to things like growth which if they exceed those figures even by small amounts its going to have huge positive impacts on the surplus of Victoria.
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Reply #1444 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:18pm
 
Sorry did someone say DEBT???




TRUE COST OF BRUMBY'S DESALINATION DEBT

VICTORIANS will pay an average $570 million a year for the next three decades to have the southern hemisphere's largest desalination plant - even if no water is needed.

Detail buried in a barrage of reports tabled in Parliament on Wednesday contained highly sensitive figures that the Brumby government has fought to keep secret: the real cost of the massive Wonthaggi plant, one of the largest public-private partnerships undertaken worldwide.
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Reply #1445 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:20pm
 
$530,000,000 PER YEAR X 30 YEARS =

$15,900,000,000

That's Victoria's debt thanks to Brumby for a plant that is not needed and not being used....


Any wonder he needed the speed camera revenue??
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Reply #1446 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:25pm
 
Ballarat helipad pledge

BENJAMIN PREISS
01 Nov, 2010 11:44 PM

HELIPAD proponents scored a major victory yesterday after the state government pledged $10 million towards the project atop a new car park in Ballarat.

Health Minister Daniel Andrews visited the Ballarat Health Services Base Hospital yesterday to open the newly redeveloped hospital emergency department, when he made the announcement.

The pre-election pledge comes after the Coalition committed $2 million to a helipad at the hospital. Under the Labor plan, the helipad would be built on top of a new multi-deck car park close to the emergency department.

Mr Andrews said the Labor funding commitment would cover the "helipad on top of the car park and it covers a substantial portion of the car park itself".

A rally planned for next week to lobby the government to build a helipad could become a street party instead.


Hospitals Emergency Landing Pad founder Carole Simmons said she was pleased a helipad would be built, with both sides of politics committing to the project.


"After six years we thought it would never happen, it's really great to hear," she said.
But I guess we have to keep them to some sort of time frame."

Opposition health spokesman David Davis said the Coalition had "consistently advocated" for a helipad since 2004. "I welcome the backflip by Labor after 11 years in government," Mr Davis said.


http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/10m-ballarat-helipad-pledge...







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Reply #1447 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:38pm
 
Verge wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:14pm:
Commonwealth deferral of $550 million in promised infrastructure payments to Victoria.








buzzanddidj wrote on May 2nd, 2011 at 4:54pm:
Just SIGN IT, Ted .....




VICTORIA'S flood-affected communities are being denied $500 million in federal flood levy funding, with the state government accusing Canberra of trying to welsh on its promise to pay the money.

Months after the flood levy was announced by Prime Minister Julia Gillard, The Age can reveal that none of the money has been delivered to the state's 94 flood-affected communities.

''It appears that the Commonwealth are trying to delay and avoid ever delivering the promised funds,'' a spokesman for Premier Ted Baillieu said last night.

While Queensland has received $2 billion, the money earmarked for Victoria has become bogged by a dispute between the state and federal governments.

But Victoria is refusing to sign up to the National Partnership Agreement as demanded by Canberra.


But other sources have suggested the state government has been deliberately stalling on receiving the cash until 2011-12 to make its first budget as sound as possible - a claim vigorously denied by Treasurer Kim Wells's office



Read more:http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/anger-as-flood-cash-withheld-20110427-1dwyy.ht...


 
..... Queensland abided by the terms
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Reply #1448 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:42pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:25pm:
Ballarat helipad pledge

BENJAMIN PREISS
01 Nov, 2010 11:44 PM

HELIPAD proponents scored a major victory yesterday after the state government pledged $10 million towards the project atop a new car park in Ballarat.

Health Minister Daniel Andrews visited the Ballarat Health Services Base Hospital yesterday to open the newly redeveloped hospital emergency department, when he made the announcement.

The pre-election pledge comes after the Coalition committed $2 million to a helipad at the hospital. Under the Labor plan, the helipad would be built on top of a new multi-deck car park close to the emergency department.

Mr Andrews said the Labor funding commitment would cover the "helipad on top of the car park and it covers a substantial portion of the car park itself".

A rally planned for next week to lobby the government to build a helipad could become a street party instead.


Hospitals Emergency Landing Pad founder Carole Simmons said she was pleased a helipad would be built, with both sides of politics committing to the project.


"After six years we thought it would never happen, it's really great to hear," she said.
But I guess we have to keep them to some sort of time frame."

Opposition health spokesman David Davis said the Coalition had "consistently advocated" for a helipad since 2004. "I welcome the backflip by Labor after 11 years in government," Mr Davis said.


http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/10m-ballarat-helipad-pledge...







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Last month the Ballarat Helipad Implementation Working Group was formed after a meeting between Health Minister David Davis and members of HELP (Hospitals Emergency Landing Pad).

The committee will ensure the operational issues of Ambulance Victoria are met, that a helipad facility will fit long-term plans of BHS and will take into account community views.

The group, to be chaired by member for Western Victoria David Koch, will also include MP Simon Ramsay, representatives from Ambulance Victoria, Ballarat Health Services, the Health Department and HELP. The first meeting of the group will be held next Wednesday.

A spokesman for Health Minister David Davis said the Coalition had not reneged on its commitment to the helipad, adding there were real steps, through the formation of the working committee, to move the project closer to fruition.
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Reply #1449 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:51pm
 
Guildford wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:42pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:25pm:
Ballarat helipad pledge

BENJAMIN PREISS
01 Nov, 2010 11:44 PM

HELIPAD proponents scored a major victory yesterday after the state government pledged $10 million towards the project atop a new car park in Ballarat.

Health Minister Daniel Andrews visited the Ballarat Health Services Base Hospital yesterday to open the newly redeveloped hospital emergency department, when he made the announcement.

The pre-election pledge comes after the Coalition committed $2 million to a helipad at the hospital. Under the Labor plan, the helipad would be built on top of a new multi-deck car park close to the emergency department.

Mr Andrews said the Labor funding commitment would cover the "helipad on top of the car park and it covers a substantial portion of the car park itself".

A rally planned for next week to lobby the government to build a helipad could become a street party instead.


Hospitals Emergency Landing Pad founder Carole Simmons said she was pleased a helipad would be built, with both sides of politics committing to the project.


"After six years we thought it would never happen, it's really great to hear," she said.
But I guess we have to keep them to some sort of time frame."

Opposition health spokesman David Davis said the Coalition had "consistently advocated" for a helipad since 2004. "I welcome the backflip by Labor after 11 years in government," Mr Davis said.


http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/10m-ballarat-helipad-pledge...







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Last month the Ballarat Helipad Implementation Working Group was formed after a meeting between Health Minister David Davis and members of HELP (Hospitals Emergency Landing Pad).

The committee will ensure the operational issues of Ambulance Victoria are met, that a helipad facility will fit long-term plans of BHS and will take into account community views.

The group, to be chaired by member for Western Victoria David Koch, will also include MP Simon Ramsay, representatives from Ambulance Victoria, Ballarat Health Services, the Health Department and HELP. The first meeting of the group will be held next Wednesday.

A spokesman for Health Minister David Davis said the Coalition had not reneged on its commitment to the helipad, adding there were real steps, through the formation of the working committee, to move the project closer to fruition.




It saves LIVES
It needs ACTION

Not more "committes" and "reviews"


Funds SHOULD have been allocated in THIS years budget



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Reply #1450 - May 4th, 2011 at 3:56pm
 
A damning indication of the mess Baillieu took over on healthcare.



Victoria will have to spend another $200 million – half the original cost – to rescue the troubled HealthSMART ehealth project, according to departmental advice to the new government.

An investigation by The Age reports that advisers say as much as $95 million will be needed to complete HealthSMART’s original plan for a computer system linking 10 major hospitals and giving medical staff immediate access to patient records, but “sources” say $100 million more will be needed to replace software, computers and electronic equipment, and add links to the new Royal Children’s Hospital and the Victorian Comprehensive Cancer Centre.

The previous Brumby government has come under considerable fire for its administration of HealthSMART.

Australian Medical Association state president Dr Harry Hemley said the Health Department had spent money on the bureaucracy – billing systems and admininistration – first, rather than systems that would have improved healthcare for patients.

And Dr Mukesh Haikerwal, NEHTA’s clinical lead and former AMA president said the Labor government had shied away from adequately funding HealthSMART because of the massive cost over-runs on the myki public transport ticketing system.

The departmental advice, which The Age says was delivered in January, is that in several big hospital capital projects, ”it’s become apparent that the need to replace old and obsolete software with new software has not been adequately planned and budgeted for”. And senior public servants conclude that while there has been some ”ad hoc” investment in computers and electronic health equipment, ”the software to enable them to function is not” budgeted for.

So far, the clinical applications, such as access to test results and medication details, which were to have been rolled out to all major Victorian hospitals have appeared only at Box Hill and the Royal Victorian Eye and Ear hospitals. Those applications are scheduled soon for the Austin and Frankston.

Dr Hemley, who previously made a public plea for the Baillieu government to fix HealthSMART rather than abandon it, says he is confident the project will be completed. ”I think we’ll get it. You can’t throw the baby out with the bath water. The government knows it needs this investment, and it has to be ongoing [spending].”

http://www.ehealthcentral.com.au/2011/04/healthsmart-needs-another-200-million/
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Reply #1451 - May 4th, 2011 at 4:10pm
 
Quote:
It saves LIVES
It needs ACTION

Not more "committes" and "reviews"


Funds SHOULD have been allocated in THIS years budget








They spent YEARS criticising Labor over it's procrastination on the Ballarat helipad (whlch was valid)

And then. once elected, do the SAME THING


Why change governments ?
That's Ballarat's view




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Reply #1452 - May 4th, 2011 at 4:23pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:56pm:
A damning indication of the mess Baillieu took over on healthcare.



Victoria will have to spend another $200 million – half the original cost – to rescue the troubled HealthSMART ehealth project, according to departmental advice to the new government.

An investigation by The Age reports that advisers say as much as $95 million will be needed to complete HealthSMART’s original plan for a computer system linking 10 major hospitals and giving medical staff immediate access to patient records, but “sources” say $100 million more will be needed to replace software, computers and electronic equipment, and add links to the new Royal Children’s Hospital and the Victorian Comprehensive Cancer Centre.

The previous Brumby government has come under considerable fire for its administration of HealthSMART.

Australian Medical Association state president Dr Harry Hemley said the Health Department had spent money on the bureaucracy – billing systems and admininistration – first, rather than systems that would have improved healthcare for patients.

And Dr Mukesh Haikerwal, NEHTA’s clinical lead and former AMA president said the Labor government had shied away from adequately funding HealthSMART because of the massive cost over-runs on the myki public transport ticketing system.

The departmental advice, which The Age says was delivered in January, is that in several big hospital capital projects, ”it’s become apparent that the need to replace old and obsolete software with new software has not been adequately planned and budgeted for”. And senior public servants conclude that while there has been some ”ad hoc” investment in computers and electronic health equipment, ”the software to enable them to function is not” budgeted for.

So far, the clinical applications, such as access to test results and medication details, which were to have been rolled out to all major Victorian hospitals have appeared only at Box Hill and the Royal Victorian Eye and Ear hospitals. Those applications are scheduled soon for the Austin and Frankston.

Dr Hemley, who previously made a public plea for the Baillieu government to fix HealthSMART rather than abandon it, says he is confident the project will be completed. ”I think we’ll get it. You can’t throw the baby out with the bath water. The government knows it needs this investment, and it has to be ongoing [spending].”

http://www.ehealthcentral.com.au/2011/04/healthsmart-needs-another-200-million/




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The Kennett government pursued strong economic growth, sound budgets and investment in infrastructure. My government and, subsequently, the Brumby government did the same and, in addition, invested our surpluses in service delivery.



On coming to power in 1999, the Bracks Government adopted a number of incomplete Kennett government projects - such as Federation Square, the County Court, Melbourne Museum and the CityLink toll - without question
and completed each without complaint
- there may be a lesson here for our new state government.



We also need to keep the cost of doing business in Victoria as competitive as possible.
The government should ditch home stamp-duty cuts and instead use the money to further cut WorkCover premiums and payroll tax rates, since these cuts are more likely to generate jobs.
The government should also support industries that are part of Victoria's future, and get on with infrastructure projects.








- Steve Bracks
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Who do you think covered THOSE budget over-runs ?


From MEMORY, Federation Square was over DOUBLE the original funding allocation







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Reply #1453 - May 4th, 2011 at 4:30pm
 
And that is absolutely irrelevant to the issue of Healthsmart and the criticism of healthcare professionals on the Brumby Government failure.

Do you agree/disagree with them that it was very poorly managed?

As much as your view on Fed Square may have been of interested to someone, somewhere. It's not quite on topic.....
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Reply #1454 - May 4th, 2011 at 4:41pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 4:23pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 4th, 2011 at 3:56pm:
A damning indication of the mess Baillieu took over on healthcare.



Victoria will have to spend another $200 million – half the original cost – to rescue the troubled HealthSMART ehealth project, according to departmental advice to the new government.

An investigation by The Age reports that advisers say as much as $95 million will be needed to complete HealthSMART’s original plan for a computer system linking 10 major hospitals and giving medical staff immediate access to patient records, but “sources” say $100 million more will be needed to replace software, computers and electronic equipment, and add links to the new Royal Children’s Hospital and the Victorian Comprehensive Cancer Centre.

The previous Brumby government has come under considerable fire for its administration of HealthSMART.

Australian Medical Association state president Dr Harry Hemley said the Health Department had spent money on the bureaucracy – billing systems and admininistration – first, rather than systems that would have improved healthcare for patients.

And Dr Mukesh Haikerwal, NEHTA’s clinical lead and former AMA president said the Labor government had shied away from adequately funding HealthSMART because of the massive cost over-runs on the myki public transport ticketing system.

The departmental advice, which The Age says was delivered in January, is that in several big hospital capital projects, ”it’s become apparent that the need to replace old and obsolete software with new software has not been adequately planned and budgeted for”. And senior public servants conclude that while there has been some ”ad hoc” investment in computers and electronic health equipment, ”the software to enable them to function is not” budgeted for.

So far, the clinical applications, such as access to test results and medication details, which were to have been rolled out to all major Victorian hospitals have appeared only at Box Hill and the Royal Victorian Eye and Ear hospitals. Those applications are scheduled soon for the Austin and Frankston.

Dr Hemley, who previously made a public plea for the Baillieu government to fix HealthSMART rather than abandon it, says he is confident the project will be completed. ”I think we’ll get it. You can’t throw the baby out with the bath water. The government knows it needs this investment, and it has to be ongoing [spending].”

http://www.ehealthcentral.com.au/2011/04/healthsmart-needs-another-200-million/




Quote:
The Kennett government pursued strong economic growth, sound budgets and investment in infrastructure. My government and, subsequently, the Brumby government did the same and, in addition, invested our surpluses in service delivery.



On coming to power in 1999, the Bracks Government adopted a number of incomplete Kennett government projects - such as Federation Square, the County Court, Melbourne Museum and the CityLink toll - without question
and completed each without complaint
- there may be a lesson here for our new state government.



We also need to keep the cost of doing business in Victoria as competitive as possible.
The government should ditch home stamp-duty cuts and instead use the money to further cut WorkCover premiums and payroll tax rates, since these cuts are more likely to generate jobs.
The government should also support industries that are part of Victoria's future, and get on with infrastructure projects.








- Steve Bracks
 28/04/2011







Who do you think covered THOSE budget over-runs ?


From MEMORY, Federation Square was over DOUBLE the original funding allocation




Steve Bracks is your source huh, wow, stretching much?

Why are you struggling to address the issues specifically in the budget?

Why is Victorias own treasury claiming a BILLION DOLLAR short fall in GST revenue?
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