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Re: BaillieuWatch
Reply #1575 - May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm

remember_when64 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 7:34pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 3:28pm:

"She's made a commitment that no more dirty coal-fire power stations will be built in Australia under her watch and the Victorian EPA has made a mockery of that call and is putting her climate credentials under threat."

She also made a commitment to no carbon tax . . . go figure!

That's already BEEN "done" -

ad nauseum

The "commitment" was made under an

assumed majority government

A majority government that would have proceeded DIRECTLY ...

... to an

emissions trading scheme

Which, as

Labor policy, was MANDATED in 2007

( ... a mandate the Liberals failed to recognise)

... and the

SAME

policy of the (then)

Howard Government

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Reply #1576 - May 20^th, 2011 at 10:15pm

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

The "commitment" was made under an assumed majority government

Strange, don't remember her specifying that.

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

A majority government that would have proceeded DIRECTLY ...

... to an emissions trading scheme

Don't remember her specifying that either. Hmmm, wait a minute, isn't that basically the same thing she told Rudd to ditch before stabbing him in the back?

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

Which, as Labor policy, was MANDATED in 2007
( ... a mandate the Liberals failed to recognise)

... and the SAME policy of the (then) Howard Government

Again, which Gillard told Rudd to ditch before stabbing him in the back. Oh wait, Gillard et al won't talk about that as they don't discuss "events of the past", unless of course it's harping back to the Howard government all the time to try and justify their backflips and policies with the childish "they did it first" spin.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: BaillieuWatch Reply #1577 - May 20^th, 2011 at 10:18pm Gillard campaigned for the 2010 Election on a platform of a PRICE ON CARBON... The Libs have even highlighted that fact on their own web-site!
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Re: BaillieuWatch
Reply #1579 - May 25^th, 2011 at 8:28am

Stricter rules for wind turbines than for coal plants

Adam Morton
May 25, 2011

WHICH would you rather have built near your home: a wind turbine ...

... or a coal power plant?

Under Baillieu government policy, it appears you have some say about the former, but not the latter.

The Coalition last year said that if elected it would return fairness to a lopsided planning system by not approving a wind turbine within two kilometres of a home without a signed contract with the resident.

By contrast, the Environment Protection Authority last week applied state law to grant Melbourne company HRL approval to build a 300 megawatt coal-fuelled plant at Morwell. It would be built within two kilometres of about 250 houses.

Lobby group Environment Victoria said the Coalition was making it easier for new electricity generation to come from coal than wind, at odds with national and state climate goals.

''It obviously sends the wrong signal when we are trying to clean up the energy supply and reduce greenhouse gas emissions,'' campaigns director Mark Wakeham said.

Catherine, who did not want to give her surname, was unhappy about it.

''It seems to me that the coal plants they are building are coming closer and closer to the township of Morwell, and that will mean that residents will have to move further out from the town to get away from them.'' She said her

asthma had worsened

since she moved to the Latrobe Valley, and blamed air pollution from the stacks visible from her backyard.

''If we get a choice of a wind turbine going in instead of another coal plant, that would certainly be the way to go.''

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/stricter-rules-for-wind-turbines-than-for-coal...

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Reply #1580 - May 25^th, 2011 at 10:30am

THE collection of more than $200 million a year in speed and red-light fines is to be officially scrutinised amid concerns about the ''integrity and validity'' of the use of traffic cameras.

With growing numbers of complaints from motorists about incorrect and inappropriate fines,

Victoria's Auditor-General has announced plans to examine whether the use of cameras boosts road safety, or merely serves to raise revenue for the state government.

The audit office's work plan for the coming 12 months warns of ''significant community concern about the integrity and validity of the camera program'', including whether speed and red-light camera readings are accurate.

''The audit will assess whether the road safety camera program is current and reflects better practice, tactical deployment of cameras optimises road safety outcomes, integrity is adequately assured, and the extent to which cameras contribute to achieving road safety outcomes,'' the plan says.

The report said the government collected

$211 million worth of fines last financial year

from road safety cameras. Budget papers reveal the government is expected to collect a record

$249 million in road camera fines this financial year

, rising to

$257 million next

.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ag-to-probe-use-and-integrity-of-road-cameras-...

I think we ALL know the outcome, already

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Reply #1581 - May 25^th, 2011 at 11:11am

remember_when64 wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 10:15pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

The "commitment" was made under an assumed majority government

Strange, don't remember her specifying that.

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

A majority government that would have proceeded DIRECTLY ...

... to an emissions trading scheme

Don't remember her specifying that either. Hmmm, wait a minute, isn't that basically the same thing she told Rudd to ditch before stabbing him in the back?

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

Which, as Labor policy, was MANDATED in 2007
( ... a mandate the Liberals failed to recognise)

... and the SAME policy of the (then) Howard Government

Again, which Gillard told Rudd to ditch before stabbing him in the back. Oh wait, Gillard et al won't talk about that as they don't discuss "events of the past", unless of course it's harping back to the Howard government all the time to try and justify their backflips and policies with the childish "they did it first" spin.

Correct on all points there Remember_when64

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Reply #1582 - May 25^th, 2011 at 11:13am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:06pm:

A majority government that would have proceeded DIRECTLY ...

... to an

emissions trading scheme

Yeah because she said that just so many times right?

I recall her saying "there will be no carbon tax" - I can't recall her stating "There will be an emissions trading scheme under a Government I lead"

Wonder why?

Oh yeah, no votes in it.

This is the same woman by the way who didn't deny that in cabinet discussions she said that pensioners don't vote Labor.

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Reply #1583 - May 25^th, 2011 at 11:50am

Minister ignored advice on tower

Reid Sexton
May 25, 2011

PLANNING Minister Matthew Guy

ignored the advice

of independent consultants

commissioned by the Department of Planning

when he approved a 25-storey tower in Footscray this week, with the development

more than double the recommended height

.

The 80-metre, $90 million development on Moreland Street will dominate the skyline of Melbourne's inner-west when it is completed in 2013.

The Age revealed yesterday that the announcement had triggered a bitter stoush between Mr Guy and Maribyrnong mayor Sarah Carter, who said Maribyrnong Council had not been consulted on the decision.

A report written by urban designers SJB Urban in June last year and commissioned by the Department of Planning and Community Development said ''the maximum number of storeys, regardless of land use or building configuration'' should be 12 storeys on the site.

It based this recommendation on previous reports into the former industrial area, which settled on the 12-storey limit based on transport, landscape and economic considerations, among others

.

Opposition planning spokesman Brian Tee said yesterday Mr Guy had

ignored the community, council and important advice paid for by the department.

''People have to ask: who does this man listen to?'' he said

.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/minister-ignored-advice-on-tower-20110524-1f2i...

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Re: BaillieuWatch
Reply #1584 - May 25^th, 2011 at 11:55am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 11:50am:

Minister ignored advice on tower

Reid Sexton
May 25, 2011

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/05/25/2383102/art-footscray-tower-200x0.jpg

PLANNING Minister Matthew Guy

ignored the advice

of independent consultants

commissioned by the Department of Planning

when he approved a 25-storey tower in Footscray this week, with the development

more than double the recommended height

.

The 80-metre, $90 million development on Moreland Street will dominate the skyline of Melbourne's inner-west when it is completed in 2013.

The Age revealed yesterday that the announcement had triggered a bitter stoush between Mr Guy and Maribyrnong mayor Sarah Carter, who said Maribyrnong Council had not been consulted on the decision.

A report written by urban designers SJB Urban in June last year and commissioned by the Department of Planning and Community Development said ''the maximum number of storeys, regardless of land use or building configuration'' should be 12 storeys on the site.

It based this recommendation on previous reports into the former industrial area, which settled on the 12-storey limit based on transport, landscape and economic considerations, among others

.

Opposition planning spokesman Brian Tee said yesterday Mr Guy had

ignored the community, council and important advice paid for by the department.

''People have to ask: who does this man listen to?'' he said

.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/minister-ignored-advice-on-tower-20110524-1f2i...

Minister ignored advice on tower Reid Sexton
May 25, 2011
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Artist's impression of the new tower. Photo: Supplied
PLANNING Minister Matthew Guy ignored the advice of independent consultants commissioned by the Department of Planning when he approved a 25-storey tower in Footscray this week, with the development more than double the recommended height.

The 80-metre, $90 million development on Moreland Street will dominate the skyline of Melbourne's inner-west when it is completed in 2013.

The Age revealed yesterday that the announcement had triggered a bitter stoush between Mr Guy and local ALP mayor Sarah Carter, who said Maribyrnong Council had not been consulted on the decision.

Advertisement: Story continues below She said Footscray's infrastructure would struggle to cope with the people who moved into the tower's 222 apartments and flocked to its shops.

Mr Guy denied the claim, suggesting yesterday that Ms Carter may be taking the stand to further her political career.

But a report written by urban designers SJB Urban in June last year and commissioned by the Department of Planning and Community Development said ''the maximum number of storeys, regardless of land use or building configuration'' should be 12 storeys on the site.

It based this recommendation on previous reports into the former industrial area, which settled on the 12-storey limit based on transport, landscape and economic considerations, among others.

Opposition planning spokesman Brian Tee said yesterday Mr Guy had ignored the community, council and important advice paid for by the department. ''People have to ask: who does this man listen to?'' he said.

But Mr Guy said last night that the report was commissioned by the previous government and was intended to provide advice only.

He said the large-scale development was necessary to cope with Melbourne's soaring population and would rejuvenate the former industrial area. ''The Planning Minister is the responsible authority for this area and the development fits with the provisions of the vision for the [area],'' he said.

Meanwhile, the government announced yesterday it would dump a proposed road safety experience centre that was set to educate young people on the effects of dangerous driving.

The world-first centre, which was promised by the former government in October at a cost of $50 million over four

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/minister-ignored-advice-on-tower-20110524-1f2iq.html#ixzz1NKDeCAbo Grin

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Re: BaillieuWatch
Reply #1585 - May 25^th, 2011 at 11:55am

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:01am:

Common sense prevails ...

Quote:

Libs' wind-farm plan to 'cost jobs'
May 14, 2010

THE state opposition is facing a barrage of criticism over a new wind-farm policy that industry and councils say will shut down a vital part of the Victorian renewable energy sector.

Opposition Leader Ted Baillieu announced yesterday that under a Coalition government
local councils
would be given
full control
over the wind farm approval process.

Currently decisions about big wind farms are made by the state government.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/libs-windfarm-plan-to-cost-jobs-20100513-v1rn....

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Baillieu Government back-flips on wind farm election pledge

May 19, 2011

THE future of Victoria's wind farm industry is no clearer after the Baillieu government's first wind farm approval.

Planning Minister Matthew Guy has approved three turbines
for a six-megawatt wind farm at Chepstowe, west of Ballarat, and said the decision was ''consistent with the Victorian government's wind farm policy''

.

Residents who live near the site for the new turbines and the local Pyrenees Shire have expressed confusion and disappointment at the decision.

Jenny Bruty's farm is about three kilometres from where the new turbines will be located and she is very disappointed by the decision. ''It was well over 100 to one; one person wanted them and there were well over 100 against them,'' she said.

Ms Bruty, who has lived on the 1000-hectare farm for more than two decades, is concerned about the health and environmental impacts of the turbines, particularly their impact on the Brolga bird population.

Pyrenees Shire mayor Michael O'Connor said he was disappointed
the Planning Minister had intervened and made the final decision
on the Chepstowe wind farm.

''Given the minister's stance on who should be determining wind farms … I am personally a little disappointed that he
called this in from VCAT
,'' he said.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/residents-left-in-a-spin-as-wind-farm-gets-nod...i

I dont MIND this sort of 'back-flip' - and a tacit admission that the Brumby Government's policy was the RIGHT one

It looks like the Planning Ministry is turning into a "dog's breakfast"

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Reply #1587 - May 25^th, 2011 at 12:17pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 11:59am:

Remind us again how much debt Brumby left us for the de-sal plant Buzz?

$17,100,000,000
wasn't it?

Good economic management?

To "drought-proof" the State of Victoria., for future generations ?

YES

Thirty years of projected running costs is NOT "debt"

The plant was built on a FIXED PRICE CONTRACT of $5B

buzzanddidj wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:43am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 20^th, 2011 at 9:10am:

This is the same John Brumby who forced the police to release incorrect crime stats before an election.

The same Brumby that arrested people on their own land.

The same Brumby that built a de-salination plant that is in mothballs and has every Victorian in debt for over a decade to the tune of billions of dollars.

The same Brumby that wrote blank, un-dated cheques whilst in caretaker Government against the rules to carry favours to try and win the election.

The same Brumby that said he wouldn't resign if he lost the election and then when he lost...resigned from politics.

Just checking, we're talking about the same guy right??

Sounds a great bloke. As straight as a boomerang.

Why is your ONLY defence of the

FAILURES

,

BROKEN ELECTION PLEDGES

,

INDECISION

,

INCRESED DEBT

and

GENERAL MEDIOCRITY

always a repeat of this list of half truths and fallacies ?

What's your opinion on the projected INCREASE in speeding fine revenue ?

No change to stamp duty on houses over $600K

The projected DOUBLING of state debt over the next three years ?

The RENEGING on of promised pay increases to poliice and teachers ?

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Re: BaillieuWatch
Reply #1589 - May 25^th, 2011 at 1:07pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 25^th, 2011 at 12:45pm:

When it is funded by borrowing then it is debt you idiot.

Your understanding of finance and economic management is absolutely shocking at times.

It wasn't

"borrowed"

Is the upkeep cost of Victoria's rail network - over the next 50 years "debt" ?

Baillieu has got to realise HE is in Government, NOW
And HE has to budget to run the state

He seems to have expected the Brumby Government to have left money in a cheque account to cover the running costs, wages and maintenance of EVERY Labor initiative from the
SYNCRATRON
, to the
WATER SUPPLY NETWORK
to the
ONJ CANCER CENTRE

That's NOT the way it works

His lack of experience is showing
The Coalition have NEVER been in government, in his time as a poitician

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