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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #645 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:07pm

scope wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 7:59pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:57pm:

[quote author=scope link=1291167686/630#631 date=1294213687]Obviously Hicks you do not know all there is to know about moving countries.
You broke the law here by driving for more than 3 months on your foreign license.
So much for the "higher" education you claimed you received, you couldn't even find out the license rules for your adopted country.

The requirement to change your overseas driver licence to a Victorian driver licence depends on whether your stay in Victoria is temporary or permanent.

If you are in Victoria on a temporary visa, you can drive on your overseas driver licence for as long as it is current providing it is in English or accompanied by an English translation or International Driving Permit.

There is no requirement to get a Victorian driver licence.

But you claim you are an Australian citizen, therefore this clause does not apply as you would not have entered the country on a temporary visa.
Here is the rest that you failed to post.
If you have entered Victoria on a permanent visa issued under the Migration Act 1958, you may drive on your overseas driver licence for:

* six months from the date you first entered Australia if the permanent visa was issued before you entered Australia; or,
* six months from the date when the permanent visa was issued to you if the permanent visa was issued to you whilst in Australia.

If you want to continue driving in Victoria after this time you must change your overseas licence to a Victorian driver licence.

Wrong, (yet) again.
I am an Australian citizen BUT was a non-resident of Australia 'temporarily residing' in Victoria on secondment for 2 years.

Both the ATO and Victoria recognized me as having 'every intention of returning to the United Kingdom on completion of the secondment'.

Hence I drove perfectly legally on a UK issued drivers licence.

If you can prove you are staying a finite period of time (such as a temporary visa or in my case a defined contract period with repatriation clauses) you can drive on any issued licence as long as it is in English and the pass standards are equivalent to Victoria.

And the best bit?

They can't put a single point on your licence.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #646 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:12pm It seems your choice of name is quite fitting.
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ohnoitisnt Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #647 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:20pm Is buzzanddidj always this cranky and belligerent?
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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #648 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:43pm

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Seems your journalist got it wrong and not Ted.

I make the claim - I'M a LIAR
A journalist writes on a media launch - HE'S a liar

WHATEVER you want to call them is irrelevent

They are PART of the Victoria Police Force
They are TRAINED by the Victoria Police Force
They are ARMED with Victoria Police Force issue fire-arms
They are under the COMMAND of Victoria Police Force Cheif Commissioner, Simon Overland

The ONLY differences are they have less powers* - and are less experienced

The thing they have in COMMON is that they BOTH have to be paid and budgeted for

*Citizen's arrest, only

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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #649 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:55pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:07pm:

scope wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 7:59pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 6:57pm:

[quote author=scope link=1291167686/630#631 date=1294213687]Obviously Hicks you do not know all there is to know about moving countries.
You broke the law here by driving for more than 3 months on your foreign license.
So much for the "higher" education you claimed you received, you couldn't even find out the license rules for your adopted country.

The requirement to change your overseas driver licence to a Victorian driver licence depends on whether your stay in Victoria is temporary or permanent.

If you are in Victoria on a temporary visa, you can drive on your overseas driver licence for as long as it is current providing it is in English or accompanied by an English translation or International Driving Permit.

There is no requirement to get a Victorian driver licence.

But you claim you are an Australian citizen, therefore this clause does not apply as you would not have entered the country on a temporary visa.
Here is the rest that you failed to post.
If you have entered Victoria on a permanent visa issued under the Migration Act 1958, you may drive on your overseas driver licence for:

* six months from the date you first entered Australia if the permanent visa was issued before you entered Australia; or,
* six months from the date when the permanent visa was issued to you if the permanent visa was issued to you whilst in Australia.

If you want to continue driving in Victoria after this time you must change your overseas licence to a Victorian driver licence.

Wrong, (yet) again.
I am an Australian citizen BUT was a non-resident of Australia 'temporarily residing' in Victoria on secondment for 2 years.

Both the ATO and Victoria recognized me as having 'every intention of returning to the United Kingdom on completion of the secondment'.

Hence I drove perfectly legally on a UK issued drivers licence.

If you can prove you are staying a finite period of time (such as a temporary visa or in my case a defined contract period with repatriation clauses) you can drive on any issued licence as long as it is in English and the pass standards are equivalent to Victoria.

And the best bit?

They can't put a single point on your licence.

You have said heaps of times on here and Yahoo that you were born in Australia, so that makes you an Australian Citizen so you are not entailed to drive on any licence expect an Australian one while you are in Australia.

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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #650 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:17pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:

Quote:

Seems your journalist got it wrong and not Ted.

I make the claim - I'M a LIAR
A journalist writes on a media launch - HE'S a liar

WHATEVER you want to call them is irrelevent

They are PART of the Victoria Police Force
They are TRAINED by the Victoria Police Force
They are ARMED with Victoria Police Force issue fire-arms
They are under the COMMAND of Victoria Police Force Cheif Commissioner, Simon Overland

The ONLY differences are they have less powers* - and are less experienced

The thing they have in COMMON is that they BOTH have to be paid and budgeted for

*Citizen's arrest, only

Just merely correcting another falisy given oxygen by Buzz that is all. I will let you off on this one since the journalist from the Age report misinformed you due to lazy journalism.

At no time was two ever promised, nor police officers.

However, you never picked up on how was Brumby going to fund 2000 fully fledged police officers, when Ted is funding only 910 secruity officers. Could it be he is re-directing Brumbys money?

Now dont be frightened to admit you got this one wrong, even though your source misled you

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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #651 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:33pm

Hicks said.
Wrong, (yet) again.
I am an Australian citizen BUT was a non-resident of Australia 'temporarily residing' in Victoria on secondment for 2 years.

Both the ATO and Victoria recognized me as having 'every intention of returning to the United Kingdom on completion of the secondment'.

Hence I drove perfectly legally on a UK issued drivers licence.

If you can prove you are staying a finite period of time (such as a temporary visa or in my case a defined contract period with repatriation clauses) you can drive on any issued licence as long as it is in English and the pass standards are equivalent to Victoria.

And the best bit?

They can't put a single point on your licence.

As a non-resident Australian citizen you may well be recognised by the ATO for tax reasons as being here as 'temporarily residing'
But and this is the problem, you do not have a Temp visa in your Australian passport so I go back to the clause you quoted and say again that this does not apply to you, as you do not have a temp visa.
Therefore you where driving illegally when you where here.

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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #652 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 10:02pm

scope wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:33pm:

Hicks said.
Wrong, (yet) again.
I am an Australian citizen BUT was a non-resident of Australia 'temporarily residing' in Victoria on secondment for 2 years.

Both the ATO and Victoria recognized me as having 'every intention of returning to the United Kingdom on completion of the secondment'.

Hence I drove perfectly legally on a UK issued drivers licence.

If you can prove you are staying a finite period of time (such as a temporary visa or in my case a defined contract period with repatriation clauses) you can drive on any issued licence as long as it is in English and the pass standards are equivalent to Victoria.

And the best bit?

They can't put a single point on your licence.

As a non-resident Australian citizen you may well be recognised by the ATO for tax reasons as being here as 'temporarily residing'
But and this is the problem, you do not have a Temp visa in your Australian passport so I go back to the clause you quoted and say again that this does not apply to you, as you do not have a temp visa.
Therefore you where driving illegally when you where here.

His parents must been good teachers for him and his sister.

His sister overstayed her visa when she was out here.

They have both broke Australian Law and are laughing about it

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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #653 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 10:45pm

Verge wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 9:17pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:

Quote:

Seems your journalist got it wrong and not Ted.

I make the claim - I'M a LIAR
A journalist writes on a media launch - HE'S a liar

WHATEVER you want to call them is irrelevent

They are PART of the Victoria Police Force
They are TRAINED by the Victoria Police Force
They are ARMED with Victoria Police Force issue fire-arms
They are under the COMMAND of Victoria Police Force Cheif Commissioner, Simon Overland

The ONLY differences are they have less powers* - and are less experienced

The thing they have in COMMON is that they BOTH have to be paid and budgeted for

*Citizen's arrest, only

Just merely correcting another falisy given oxygen by Buzz that is all. I will let you off on this one since the journalist from the Age report misinformed you due to lazy journalism.

At no time was two ever promised, nor police officers.

I guess News Ltd reporters are all LIARS as well

Along with those LIARS from Fairfax ?

Quote:

Mr Baillieu said announcements on the number of trains needed in Victoria would come later, and said ticket prices would not be affected by the pledge for more officers at stations, which would enable about

two officers per station

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/police-at-every-station/story-e6frf7jo-12257955...

You can't re-write policy, post-election, in this day and age
Too much of a virtual "paper trail"

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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #654 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 11:05pm

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However, you never picked up on how was Brumby going to fund 2000 fully fledged police officers, when Ted is funding only 910 secruity officers.

Labor election policy

180 new station staff
20 staff to man CCTV room

100 ADDITIONAL transit police - bringing the total to 2066

http://www.scribd.com/doc/41767348/Going-Places-Better-Transport-for-All-Victori...

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Sir_Bobby Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 174 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #655 - Jan 5^th, 2011 at 11:42pm What happened to Baillieu's crime free state? Now we have the McDonalds armed robbery fiasco. They have to shut down Maccas due to armed bandits raiding them every night. So much for Ted's ideas - all nonsense.
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Reply #656 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 5:08am

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international driving permits

International Driving Permits are a special permit for tourists, allowing motorists to drive internationally without further tests or applications provided their domestic drivers licence is valid. It is also a requirement for renting a car in many countries.

IDPs are accepted worldwide (in over 150 countries) as a recognisable form of identification and are officially sanctioned by the United Nations. It is a translation of your driver's licence and must be carried with your domestic driver's licence at all times.

Even if you don’t intend to drive overseas it is useful to carry an IDP in case of an emergency and as an additional form of identification.

Only RACV and constituent members of the AAA (Australian Automobile Association) are authorised to issue IDPs. The RACV issues IDPs through RACV Shops.

Please note:

An IDP is not a stand-alone document.
Is valid for 12 months
Must be carried with your current domestic driving licence
If you are applying for an IDP at an RACV shop, you are not required to print out and complete an IDP application form.
Passport photos must be on photographic quality paper. Standard copy paper will not be accepted. Head shot cut outs from 'other' photos will not be accepted.
key facts about idps

how does an idp work
what are the country requirements
how to apply for an idp
proof of non-residence
contact us
the cost of an idp
how does an idp work
International Driving Permits (IDPs) entitle the holder to drive motor vehicles specified in the IDP and in all counteracting countries without further examination.

Your IDP carries your identification details in nine languages (English, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Italian, German, Arabic, Swedish and French), in case you need to communicate with foreign authorities.

An IDP is valid for 12 months from the date of issue unless the holder's domestic driving licence expires or is revoked in the meantime. IDP's cannot be post dated under any circumstances.

It in no way diminishes the obligation of the holder to conform strictly to the laws and regulation relating to residence or the exercise of a profession which are in force in each country visited.

A person may apply for a further permit. Such applications must be accompanied by the applicant's current Australian Driving Licence or photocopy of, and a passport size photograph colour or black and white (photocopy/facsimile not acceptable) and the fee applicable at the time.

special notes:

IDPs may NOT be issued to persons under 18 years of age regardless of whether they hold a national driving licence. In addition, IDPs cannot be issued to holders of Learner Permits Licences or other limited/restricted use licences, issued under the directive of a State Court of Law.
IDP's can be issued to External Territory licence holders from Norfolk Island, Christmas Island and Cocos Keeling Islands.
There is no upper age limit for the use of IDPs.
what are the country requirements
Different countries have different identification requirements when driving a vehicle. Some countries require international motorists to possess an IDP.
Check the requirements of your destination before you go.

how to apply for an idp
To obtain an IDP you can visit your nearest RACV Shop with your current Australian Driver's Licence and a recent passport size and style photo. Passport photos must be on photographic quality paper. Standard copy paper will not be accepted. Head shot cut outs from 'other' photos will not be accepted. IDP photos are available for purchase at selected RACV Shops.

Note: If applying for an IDP through an RACV shop, an application form is not required.

If applying for an IDP outside of Australia print out the IDP application form provided and enclose a clear copy of your current Australian Driver's Licence (both front and back), a recent passport size photo and payment including postage fees. Another option is to send your application to a family member or friend who can arrange the IDP on your behalf and send it back to you.

Download an IDP application form (PDF 437KB)
proof of non-residence
Please provide the following documents for proof of non-residence:

Itinerary of travel arrangements
Passport
Visa
contact us
Call RACV on 13 13 29 or from overseas +61 3 8792 4052.

the cost of an idp
An IDP costs $32.50 each. If an IDP is required through the mail postage fees will apply.

travelling to NZ?

http://www.racv.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/Internet/Primary/travel/driving+overseas/...

This is from RAVC web site. If you are travelling overseas and why would they have one set of rules if you are going overseas and another set if you are coming from oversea to here.

You watch andrei will disappear and won't come back and try to get out of it.

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ohnoitisnt Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #657 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 6:22am You can't re-write policy, post-election, in this day and age Too much of a virtual "paper trail" Like Julia and her no carbon tax.
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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #658 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 6:24am

Sir_Bobby wrote on Jan 5^th, 2011 at 11:42pm:

What happened to Baillieu's crime free state?

Now we have the McDonalds armed robbery fiasco.
They have to shut down Maccas due to armed bandits
raiding them every night.

So much for Ted's ideas - all nonsense.

Mr Bat will you please tell this simpleton how long as Baillieu has been in power?

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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #659 - Jan 6^th, 2011 at 6:56am

ohnoitisnt wrote on Jan 6^th, 2011 at 6:22am:

You can't re-write policy, post-election, in this day and age
Too much of a virtual "paper trail"

Like Julia and her no carbon tax.

Off topic, but .....

There IS no carbon tax

Nor is there propsed legislation for such, in this term of government

The debate at the MOMENT is establishing a

PRICE on a unit (tonne) of carbon

Furthermore ...

ANY fool can tell you - a policy statement is based on the assumption of a clear win in an election

NOT an unexpected

MINORITY, coalition government

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