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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #855 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 1:49pm
 
random_person_942345 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 1:21pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 8:39am:
A typical labor govt permformance!


Seems typical of both Labor and the Coalition (and the Greens) - promise the world, then back down on most of the commitments once in power. I'm looking forward to the day where politicians treat us like the intelligent adults we are and just tell us frankly that something is possible or not.

Rather than trying to one-up their opposition until their promises amount to every major project you could dream about, tax cuts for the country, world-class education and hospitals and police and military, and still manage to post a surplus every Budget!


The idea of political parties being honest in election campaigns died in 1993. The liberals, assured of an easy victory, proposed economic policies that would fix the country (an ironically when finally implemented 3 years later did just that) but were unpalatable to an obviously immature election. keating lied thru his teeth, showed a remarkable hypocrisy in opposing his own preferred policy and was rewarded with a remarkable victory. It was then made patently clear that the electorate is way too immature to be entrusted with truth during campaigns. since then tcampaigning has been a never-ending succession of promises which were not fulfilled because they were unaffordable or impractical. 1998 was the only exception.

we get what we deserve. we reward lying politicians so why should not expect that politicans will therefore lie to us in the future?
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Reply #856 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 3:07pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 19th, 2011 at 3:29pm:
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To sum up The  Baillieu Government  so far its clear to see that  ~ All their promises disappeared from their website immediately after the election ~  this thread shows the reason as to why !




Hmmmmmm, remind you of anything??



KEVIN Rudd is yet to deliver on dozens of election commitments, leaving a trail of backflips and broken promises as he prepares to fight for a second term.

A Herald Sun analysis of Labor's 2007 election commitments reveal many have been quietly axed or are far from being met.

The Prime Minister apologised to the Stolen Generations and signed the Kyoto Protocol, but just one of 2650 promised trades training centres will accept students this semester.

Of 260 childcare centres he pledged would be built in schools and TAFES, only one has opened its doors.

And just two of Labor's 31 promised GP Super Clinics are fully operational.

Promised Healthy Kids Checks have failed to make an impact on preschooler health, with GPs seeing just 62,823 children so far.

Plans to attract retired nurses back into hospitals have also bombed, with just 752 accepting a $6000 return-to-work bonus. Labor hoped 7750 would take up the offer.

And 52 of a promised 2500 new aged care beds have been opened within two years.

Labor's election policies have been removed from the ALP website, but a copy of the website as it was on election day has been preserved by the National Library of Australia.

Promised A-E grading of childcare centres, listed on the site, has been dumped.

A replacement grading system will use terms such as "unsatisfactory", "operating level" and "national quality standard" to assess childcare standards.

The much-vaunted "education revolution" is taking its time putting computers on desks - only 28 per cent of promised computers have been delivered halfway into a four-year program.

The Government's biggest broken promise was largely outside its control as it pushed the Budget into deficit to fight-off recession.

Other big ticket promises such as Grocerywatch and Fuelwatch have fallen by the wayside, while the Government is yet to take Japan to court to save the whales


Grin  Grin



Howard in 1996 had "Core and Non core promises, but we are not allowed to talk about Howard now he is not the Prime Minister, and he should of never been.

He will go down as the worst PM in Australia history
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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #857 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 5:02pm
 
John S wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 3:07pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 19th, 2011 at 3:29pm:
Quote:

To sum up The  Baillieu Government  so far its clear to see that  ~ All their promises disappeared from their website immediately after the election ~  this thread shows the reason as to why !




Hmmmmmm, remind you of anything??



KEVIN Rudd is yet to deliver on dozens of election commitments, leaving a trail of backflips and broken promises as he prepares to fight for a second term.

A Herald Sun analysis of Labor's 2007 election commitments reveal many have been quietly axed or are far from being met.

The Prime Minister apologised to the Stolen Generations and signed the Kyoto Protocol, but just one of 2650 promised trades training centres will accept students this semester.

Of 260 childcare centres he pledged would be built in schools and TAFES, only one has opened its doors.

And just two of Labor's 31 promised GP Super Clinics are fully operational.

Promised Healthy Kids Checks have failed to make an impact on preschooler health, with GPs seeing just 62,823 children so far.

Plans to attract retired nurses back into hospitals have also bombed, with just 752 accepting a $6000 return-to-work bonus. Labor hoped 7750 would take up the offer.

And 52 of a promised 2500 new aged care beds have been opened within two years.

Labor's election policies have been removed from the ALP website, but a copy of the website as it was on election day has been preserved by the National Library of Australia.

Promised A-E grading of childcare centres, listed on the site, has been dumped.

A replacement grading system will use terms such as "unsatisfactory", "operating level" and "national quality standard" to assess childcare standards.

The much-vaunted "education revolution" is taking its time putting computers on desks - only 28 per cent of promised computers have been delivered halfway into a four-year program.

The Government's biggest broken promise was largely outside its control as it pushed the Budget into deficit to fight-off recession.

Other big ticket promises such as Grocerywatch and Fuelwatch have fallen by the wayside, while the Government is yet to take Japan to court to save the whales


Grin  Grin



Howard in 1996 had "Core and Non core promises, but we are not allowed to talk about Howard now he is not the Prime Minister, and he should of never been.

He will go down as the worst PM in Australia history


It must be therefore very galling to you to see that repeated polls rate him as australias BEST PM!!  tough luck!
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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #858 - Jan 22nd, 2011 at 9:08pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 5:02pm:
John S wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 3:07pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 19th, 2011 at 3:29pm:
Quote:

To sum up The  Baillieu Government  so far its clear to see that  ~ All their promises disappeared from their website immediately after the election ~  this thread shows the reason as to why !




Hmmmmmm, remind you of anything??



KEVIN Rudd is yet to deliver on dozens of election commitments, leaving a trail of backflips and broken promises as he prepares to fight for a second term.

A Herald Sun analysis of Labor's 2007 election commitments reveal many have been quietly axed or are far from being met.

The Prime Minister apologised to the Stolen Generations and signed the Kyoto Protocol, but just one of 2650 promised trades training centres will accept students this semester.

Of 260 childcare centres he pledged would be built in schools and TAFES, only one has opened its doors.

And just two of Labor's 31 promised GP Super Clinics are fully operational.

Promised Healthy Kids Checks have failed to make an impact on preschooler health, with GPs seeing just 62,823 children so far.

Plans to attract retired nurses back into hospitals have also bombed, with just 752 accepting a $6000 return-to-work bonus. Labor hoped 7750 would take up the offer.

And 52 of a promised 2500 new aged care beds have been opened within two years.

Labor's election policies have been removed from the ALP website, but a copy of the website as it was on election day has been preserved by the National Library of Australia.

Promised A-E grading of childcare centres, listed on the site, has been dumped.

A replacement grading system will use terms such as "unsatisfactory", "operating level" and "national quality standard" to assess childcare standards.

The much-vaunted "education revolution" is taking its time putting computers on desks - only 28 per cent of promised computers have been delivered halfway into a four-year program.

The Government's biggest broken promise was largely outside its control as it pushed the Budget into deficit to fight-off recession.

Other big ticket promises such as Grocerywatch and Fuelwatch have fallen by the wayside, while the Government is yet to take Japan to court to save the whales


Grin  Grin



Howard in 1996 had "Core and Non core promises, but we are not allowed to talk about Howard now he is not the Prime Minister, and he should of never been.

He will go down as the worst PM in Australia history


It must be therefore very galling to you to see that repeated polls rate him as australias BEST PM!!  tough luck!



How long did it take to say that Fraser was a bad PM after he was voted out of office 7 or 8 years so come back in 10 years time and say that Howard is the best PM in Australia history.

I bet anything you want that you won't come back and say it.
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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #859 - Jan 23rd, 2011 at 3:36pm
 
John S wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 9:08pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 5:02pm:
John S wrote on Jan 22nd, 2011 at 3:07pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 19th, 2011 at 3:29pm:
Quote:

To sum up The  Baillieu Government  so far its clear to see that  ~ All their promises disappeared from their website immediately after the election ~  this thread shows the reason as to why !




Hmmmmmm, remind you of anything??



KEVIN Rudd is yet to deliver on dozens of election commitments, leaving a trail of backflips and broken promises as he prepares to fight for a second term.

A Herald Sun analysis of Labor's 2007 election commitments reveal many have been quietly axed or are far from being met.

The Prime Minister apologised to the Stolen Generations and signed the Kyoto Protocol, but just one of 2650 promised trades training centres will accept students this semester.

Of 260 childcare centres he pledged would be built in schools and TAFES, only one has opened its doors.

And just two of Labor's 31 promised GP Super Clinics are fully operational.

Promised Healthy Kids Checks have failed to make an impact on preschooler health, with GPs seeing just 62,823 children so far.

Plans to attract retired nurses back into hospitals have also bombed, with just 752 accepting a $6000 return-to-work bonus. Labor hoped 7750 would take up the offer.

And 52 of a promised 2500 new aged care beds have been opened within two years.

Labor's election policies have been removed from the ALP website, but a copy of the website as it was on election day has been preserved by the National Library of Australia.

Promised A-E grading of childcare centres, listed on the site, has been dumped.

A replacement grading system will use terms such as "unsatisfactory", "operating level" and "national quality standard" to assess childcare standards.

The much-vaunted "education revolution" is taking its time putting computers on desks - only 28 per cent of promised computers have been delivered halfway into a four-year program.

The Government's biggest broken promise was largely outside its control as it pushed the Budget into deficit to fight-off recession.

Other big ticket promises such as Grocerywatch and Fuelwatch have fallen by the wayside, while the Government is yet to take Japan to court to save the whales


Grin  Grin



Howard in 1996 had "Core and Non core promises, but we are not allowed to talk about Howard now he is not the Prime Minister, and he should of never been.

He will go down as the worst PM in Australia history


It must be therefore very galling to you to see that repeated polls rate him as australias BEST PM!!  tough luck!



How long did it take to say that Fraser was a bad PM after he was voted out of office 7 or 8 years so come back in 10 years time and say that Howard is the best PM in Australia history.

I bet anything you want that you won't come back and say it.


Is that the best you can do, dimmest-of-the-dim?
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Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n
Reply #860 - Jan 23rd, 2011 at 4:04pm
 
HERE'S a thought ...






Ted Baillieu's "buyback" of properties in bushfire prone zones (plus the policy of putting power lines underground) has been given
a "ball-park" figure of $20 BILLION



This is
50% of the total cost of the NBN


But the BIG difference ?

The "buyback" has  NO RETURN on investment


Only an ongoing
maintenence bill
, from the SES and CFA

On a per capita basis the buyback is TWICE the cost per Victorian tax-payer (Victoria carrying 20% of the country's  population)

Does this mean the "buyback" will be paid for by Victoria's GRAND CHILDREN - or GREAT, GREAT GRANDCHILDREN ?







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Reply #861 - Jan 23rd, 2011 at 4:14pm
 
Green wedges face the chop

January 23, 2011
 
THE Baillieu Government finds itself stuck between a green wedge and a hard place.
On one hand the new government needs to find more vacant land to fulfil its election pledge to tackle housing affordability.

On the other it has to ensure Melbourne's urban expansion does not destroy the character, environment and liveability of our city.

Premier Ted Baillieu (right) will win praise for his latest plan to free up more land in the hope of driving down prices in urban growth areas.

Few people will see anything wrong with giving first-home buyers a helping hand to be able to enter the market.

But they may have a problem with today's revelation that the Government will consider extending the urban growth boundary if its new land affordability plan doesn't work.

The Brumby Government moved the boundary last year to include an extra 46,000ha for development and extended it again in 2005 for an extra 11,000ha.

Former premier John Brumby announced in December his government would consider tens of thousands more hectares of land outside the existing boundary if Labor returned to power.

His demise has put the plan in Mr Baillieu's hands and it seems the Coalition intends to act fast.

Land cleared for release under the new plan will come from within the urban growth boundary - for now.

Though any further extension of the boundary will please developers and land buyers, it will infuriate conservationists who will watch closely, fearing signs of over-development.

Planning Minister Matthew Guy acknowledges land supply is not the only factor driving up prices. But it is a major one.

The Baillieu Government went to the polls promising to make it easier for Victorians to buy their first home. The reality is that Melbourne land prices have become untenable for many, even in outer areas.

More land is needed to help solve the problem, and it is needed now.



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/green-wedges-face-the-chop/story-e6frfhqf-12...





And you're "gunna" need it, your Lordship !
Rural Victoria is heading to town








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Reply #862 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 3:59pm
 
Quote:
Ted Baillieu's "buyback" of properties in bushfire prone zones (plus the policy of putting power lines underground) has been given
a "ball-park" figure of $20 BILLION








Quote:
AS IT emerged Victoria's flood toll could top $6 billion in damages and lost productivity, divisions yesterday surfaced within the state government over a proposed levy to help cover the cost.

Deputy Premier Peter Ryan said he had ''severe misgivings'' about the national levy under consideration by the federal government, putting him at odds with Premier Ted Baillieu.


Mr Baillieu seemed open to the idea on Friday, saying he would ''leave it to Julia Gillard and her government'' to decide on the introduction of a one-off levy to help pay for the clean-up and reconstruction of regions devastated by flooding in the eastern states.

MP chief economist Shane Oliver estimated the national damages bill would be $15 billion, with a further $13 billion, or 1 per cent of GDP, in lost productivity. The loss in economic growth from the floods, which have stretched across the December and March financial quarters, could tip Australia into a temporary recession, he said.

Dr Oliver said
Victoria's estimated $6 billion toll comprised up to $4 billion in damage to property, equipment and infrastructure, and $2 billion in lost productivity
- including disruptions to roads and transport, and loss of business for tourism operators and retailers.


http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/to-levy-or-not-to-levy-baillieu-ryan-at-odds-2...






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Reply #863 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 4:14pm
 
FIVE YEARS LATE AND $35M OVER BUDGET.
WHAT WAS THAT BUZZ?
ECONOMICALLY SENSIBLE?????????




THE state government is considering abandoning Victoria's trouble-plagued $360 million health technology program, with Health Minister David Davis admitting he faces ''a genuine dilemma with 'the myki of the health system' ''.

The HealthSMART program - five years late and $35 million over budget - is supposed to link computer systems in hospitals and introduce processes such as electronic prescribing.

But clinical applications are only partially running in just four hospitals, and doctors say patient safety is compromised by inadequate procedures that causes them to duplicate paperwork, chase test results and compete for access to computer terminals.

In a state budget submission, the Australian Medical Association has called for a further $328 million to be invested on health technology over the next four years, with a focus on providing ready access to patient records, test results and medication details.

AMA Victoria president Harry Hemley said health technology in Victoria bordered on the embarrassing, and ''patients would be appalled at the lack of IT, computers and connectivity between different areas of the health system''.

Mr Davis said the HealthSMART program, launched by the former Labor government in 2003, had been ''botched in its introduction'' and was tens of millions of dollars over budget without achieving its stated aims.

''The new government faces a genuine dilemma with the myki of the health system,'' he said. ''On the one side we have large sunk costs, and on the other a system that has failed to meet expectations.''

Mr Davis said technology was ''a critical part of improving the performance and quality of our health system'', and the AMA's submission would be considered as part of the budget process.

Dr Hemley said many promises had been made about HealthSMART's ability to revolutionise technology in hospitals, but the project had been bitterly disappointing despite hundreds of millions of dollars in investment.

''HealthSMART still has potential to deliver a vastly superior health IT system but it needs to be seen as an ongoing investment,'' he said.

"Hospitals need to be supported with additional targeted funding to build their basic IT infrastructure and to bring these programs online, rather than divert funds from elsewhere in their budgets.''

Health board minutes have previously revealed that hospitals were being left to meet funding gaps for millions of dollars under the program, and concerns had been raised with the former government that it placed their organisations at risk.

West Gippsland Healthcare Group chief executive Ormond Pearson said instead of introducing critically important clinical applications, the program had simply replaced existing systems used for non-clinical areas such financial management.

''We've really replaced [existing] business systems, and [the HealthSMART versions] haven't proven to be the most efficient systems and have caused us some grief,'' he said.

Victorian Healthcare Association chief executive Trevor Carr called for an honest dialogue about the program and ''transparency around the real cost of implementation''.

Mr Carr said there was ''a sense of secrecy and a sense there's been a bit of a cover-up'' about the program's failings.

''We've got to make sure we have integrated systems within agencies. That hasn't been achieved at this stage and it's a big issue because it creates duplication of process and that is costly,'' he said.

''Other governments have walked away from failed health IT projects and decided to dump them and start from scratch. That's what we need to have a long hard look at - whether it's that diabolical, and if it's not, how we can go about gaining the improvements we really do need to gain.''

A junior hospital physician who did not want to be named told The Age: ''When I need to check a blood test or X-ray, I can spend five minutes searching for a computer and five minutes waiting for it to load. I'd far rather spend that time with patients.

''Ultimately, I'd like to be able to click a button in [the emergency ward] that brings up a patient's medication and their past history from their GP.''

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Reply #864 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 4:47pm
 
Ten per cent over budget

It will HAVE to be ditched, NOW, to pay for the Baillieu spendathon - and stamp duty and speeding fine losses
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Reply #865 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 5:42pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 24th, 2011 at 4:47pm:
Ten per cent over budget

It will HAVE to be ditched, NOW, to pay for the Baillieu spendathon - and stamp duty and speeding fine losses


another day, another cry from Buzz. or did you miss the fact that yet another Labor program was a massive over-budget screwup??

But of course, lets blame the liberals who have bene in power 5 minutes for a labor program in process for 7 years.
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Reply #866 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 6:09pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24th, 2011 at 5:42pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 24th, 2011 at 4:47pm:
Ten per cent over budget

It will HAVE to be ditched, NOW, to pay for the Baillieu spendathon - and stamp duty and speeding fine losses


another day, another cry from Buzz. or did you miss the fact that yet another Labor program was a massive over-budget screwup??

But of course, lets blame the liberals who have bene in power 5 minutes for a labor program in process for 7 years.





It doesn't take an accountant to tell you you CANNOT fund the cascade of program and policy Baillieu presented at the election by cutting taxes

TWENTY BILLION buyback over twenty years for bushfire prone country towns - paid for by every Victorian

And you think the NBN is bad value ?


And let's not forget the cashed up home buyers pushing up the ALREADY over priced sector




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Reply #867 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 6:15pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 24th, 2011 at 6:09pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 24th, 2011 at 5:42pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 24th, 2011 at 4:47pm:
Ten per cent over budget

It will HAVE to be ditched, NOW, to pay for the Baillieu spendathon - and stamp duty and speeding fine losses


another day, another cry from Buzz. or did you miss the fact that yet another Labor program was a massive over-budget screwup??

But of course, lets blame the liberals who have bene in power 5 minutes for a labor program in process for 7 years.





It doesn't take an accountant to tell you you CANNOT fund the cascade of program and policy Baillieu presented at the election by cutting taxes

TWENTY BILLION buyback over twenty years for bushfire prone country towns - paid for by every Victorian

And you think the NBN is bad value ?


And let's not forget the cashed up home buyers pushing up the ALREADY over priced sector






And yet you NEVER criticise a Labor Govt program. not the myki fiasco or health smart of any one of 27 failed federal labor programs. Your font is large. Your credibility is not.
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Reply #868 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 6:21pm
 
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did you miss the fact that yet another Labor program was a massive over-budget screwup??







MASSIVE ?


It's TEN percent, over FOUR years

That's under the rate of inflation

It IS behind schedule
It is also without precedent or prototype






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Reply #869 - Jan 24th, 2011 at 6:27pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 24th, 2011 at 6:21pm:
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did you miss the fact that yet another Labor program was a massive over-budget screwup??







MASSIVE ?


It's TEN percent, over FOUR years

That's under the rate of inflation

It IS behind schedule
It is also without precedent or prototype








Oh I forgot the main thing... not only is it over budget... IT DOESNT WORK or get even close. So while you seem to think ONLY 10% over budget is ok, you might have a point if it were complete and working but it isnt.

So in summary. it is 10% OVER budget and 100% below expectations. Thats a disaster - just like any labor govt program.  You just have exceptionally low standards for labor govt programs. as long as no one gets killed, then it is a success.... Even by that pathetic standard, labor fails.

Now back to you for a bit more of a tantrum and a few more tears...

the next 4 years are going to be tough on you, buzz.  and the 8 after that even more so.
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