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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14137 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #930 - Jan 31^st, 2011 at 12:38pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 12:31pm: There are plenty of ways to beat speed cameras. Holding two licences, declaring someone else (overseas) to be driving etc. Easy. You're in fine company ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld#Criminal_conviction
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Reply #931 - Jan 31^st, 2011 at 12:42pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 12:38pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 31^st, 2011 at 12:31pm:

There are plenty of ways to beat speed cameras.

Holding two licences, declaring someone else (overseas) to be driving etc.

Easy.

You're in fine company ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Einfeld#Criminal_conviction

I didn't say I did it.
I do not support the illegal declaration of someone else driving.

I am just saying it is easily done.

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Reply #932 - Jan 31^st, 2011 at 12:55pm

PETER Ryan has reveled he was booked for speeding within days of becoming Police Minister, as he sells speed camera changes.

The revelations come as experts raised fears that Mr Ryan's move to publicise speed camera locations would worsen road crashes.

Mr Ryan revealed in an article he wrote for today's Herald Sun that he had been caught speeding by cameras several times over the years

- always for doing less than 10km/h over the limit.

It is impossible to say exactly what speed Mr Ryan was doing when he was booked as police include

a secret threshold that gives motorist several kilometres an hour leeway

before speed cameras are triggered and fines issued.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/urgent-fix-for-states-speed-cameras/...

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Reply #933 - Feb 2^nd, 2011 at 2:02pm

Do you think this may have helped the Liberals with an election win ?

Mayne on donations:
Vic Libs still richest political division in the country

Victorian Liberals: took the disclosure low road with two pages of
contributions revealed, although it totalled a very healthy $7.7 million. There was a $72,000 “other receipt” from Clive Palmer but the standout was a $1.97 million contribution from the Cormack Foundation. As was revealed in this Crikey story last year, the Victorian Liberals had turned the $14 million sale of 3XY in 1988 into a $58 million share portfolio, including about $28 million worth of shares in the Big Four banks.

However, Cormack’s 2009-10 return reveals it sold $2.46 million worth of CBA, NAB and Alumina shares on August 6, 2009 when the GFC pain was still suppressing share prices. It also sold $955,000 worth of Brambles shares in February 2010 and $586,000 worth of QBE shares in June 2010, suggesting a big contribution was made for Ted Baillieu’s successful campaign and Tony Abbott’s pitch at The Lodge.

The rest of the portfolio appears to remain in tact so the Victorian Liberals clearly remain the richest political division in the country. No one else can claim to own $50 million worth of shares.

In other Victorian Liberal developments, James Packer took out some political insurance last year as his Crown Casino gave the Liberals $25,000 and is now requesting taxpayer contributions to help fund campaigns to bring high roller tourists to Australia.

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Reply #934 - Feb 2^nd, 2011 at 3:47pm

[quote author=vegitamite link=1291167686/930#933 date=1296619326]Do you think this may have helped the Liberals with an election win ?

Mayne on donations:
Vic Libs still richest political division in the country

Victorian Liberals: took the disclosure low road with two pages of
contributions revealed, although it totalled a very healthy $7.7 million. There was a $72,000 “other receipt” from Clive Palmer but the standout was a $1.97 million contribution from the Cormack Foundation. As was revealed in this Crikey story last year, the Victorian Liberals had turned the $14 million sale of 3XY in 1988 into a $58 million share portfolio, including about $28 million worth of shares in the Big Four banks.

However, Cormack’s 2009-10 return reveals it sold $2.46 million worth of CBA, NAB and Alumina shares on August 6, 2009 when the GFC pain was still suppressing share prices. It also sold $955,000 worth of Brambles shares in February 2010 and $586,000 worth of QBE shares in June 2010, suggesting a big contribution was made for Ted Baillieu’s successful campaign and Tony Abbott’s pitch at The Lodge.

The rest of the portfolio appears to remain in tact so the Victorian Liberals clearly remain the richest political division in the country. No one else can claim to own $50 million worth of shares.

In other Victorian Liberal developments, James Packer took out some political insurance last year as his Crown Casino gave the Liberals $25,000 and is now requesting taxpayer contributions to help fund campaigns to bring high roller tourists to Australia.[/quote

FFS vegetable so f......g what?

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Reply #937 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 1:09pm

Playing the blame game won't help the Premier deliver on his promise.

TED Baillieu wants to fix child protection, a system he says was permitted to ''fall apart'' under Labor. But it remains unclear precisely how he will do this.

Countless horror stories have emerged via the Ombudsman and the media, tales of children suffering further abuse by those meant to protect them, of workers making poor decisions under the pressure of huge workloads and insufficient resources, of high staff turnover because of the unsustainable demands of the job.

We have repeatedly heard these stories, and the Coalition repeatedly highlighted the problems when in opposition. Will this inquiry tell us anything that we don't already know? Or is it merely an exercise that - with its November report date - will buy the new government time before it must get on with ''fixing'' the system?

Baillieu speaks of 11 years of Labor neglect. It's fine to take this line when you're opposition leader. But blaming your predecessor, along with rhetoric about coming to the rescue of a long-suffering system, isn't good enough when you're Premier. Nor is it what people want to hear. The voters chose the opposition to govern, and now the new government must declare what it intends to do to keep children safe.

Despite Coalition rhetoric, this is not just Labor's problem. The Kennett government slashed funding to child protection during the 1990s. Labor significantly increased funding to the system and under that government Victoria's legislation is now considered a leader in the country.

Nominating himself as the Mr Fixit of child protection comes with risks for Baillieu. He says the inquiry's key task is devising recommendations to reduce the incidence and negative impact of child neglect and abuse. When asked on Monday how he would measure the success of the Coalition's policies, he repeated the line about reducing the incidence of abuse and its negative impact. Come 2014, when voters next go to the polls, they are entitled to expect evidence that the ''incidence'' of abuse has been reduced - or they can consider his policies a failure.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/baillieus-high-stakes-in-child-protection...

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Reply #938 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 1:26pm

The only thing to note in this 65 page meltdown and tantrum -

John Brumby and his poorly performing, arrogant Government are gone!!!

Well I came back to Melbourne we had a chinaman who couldn't speak English as Mayor and a grease monkey Premier who pissed our money against a wall.

Both are gone and we now have decent, Australian people in charge.
The people who should be governing ARE governing.
The sort who should be in opposition ARE in opposition.

Let's just reflect on that and be thankful common sense has prevailed.

I am a proud Victorian again.

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Reply #939 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 1:58pm

'Tanty Ted'

January 30, 2011

Baillieu is starting to show signs that he's struggling with the reality of being premier

LAST Sunday, Ted Baillieu anchored a media event about Australian tennis players raising money for flood victims. After his spiel, the new Premier took questions from the assembled political reporters.

And that's when things turned strange.

The media's questions were not unreasonable. Was $50 million too much for the Grand Prix ? Robert Doyle estimated the event would soon cost $70 million. Was that too much? Did the race have a future in Melbourne? For the first time as premier,

Baillieu lost his cool. In a worrying sign that he is yet to fully come to terms with the demands of being the state's leader, he was deflective, angry and condescending.

He refused to answer questions from the Herald Sun's Stephen McMahon about whether $50 million was an acceptable taxpayer loss.

He talked over the reporter's attempts to ask the question and dismissed them as speculative and hypothetical. ''I appreciate that's your stock in trade,'' he told McMahon, ''but I am not going to comment further ..."

The Premier is still on his political honeymoon. He's got his training wheels on, and the media is in a forgiving mood. But it won't last forever. After Sunday's performance, one reporter was already referring to the premier as

Tanty Ted.

Being ready to govern, being premier, is not like being opposition leader, where the media may shrug at some sidestepping of questions.

Being premier does not mean hiding behind excuses such as ''that's speculation'' or ''that's hypothetical''. And it certainly does not mean dismissing issues that affect Victorians because they gestate in the federal realm.

Ignoring these realities is a fundamental mistake, one that John Brumby, for all the electoral backlash at November's election, rarely made.

Full article ...

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/ted-on-the-tear-20110129-1a8yp.html

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #940 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 2:04pm And the tantrum continues...... Note Buzz still refuses to answer why he felt I was worthy of criticism during my time here despite paying more into the country than he?? Question avoidance that would do even woody proud....
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Reply #941 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 2:21pm

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Note Buzz still refuses to answer why he felt I was worthy of criticism during my time here despite paying more into the country than he??

Because you bragged how you were able to rort the system, siphoning off the bulk of your salary to a Channel Island's tax haven - to avoid paying the normal rate of tax on your income to this country - while working in this country

And then having the hide to grab the baby bonus - paid for by income-taxes

Not ILLEGAL
Just IMMORAL

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #942 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 2:58pm That line is getting very old now. You are talking about TWO YEARS ago now. Much like this thread - its old news.
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14137 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #943 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 3:01pm Quote: That line is getting very old now. You are talking about TWO YEARS ago now. Who brought it up - and asked the question ?
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Baillieu: "We Can Do Better" (or maybe n Reply #944 - Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 3:04pm buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2011 at 3:01pm: Quote: That line is getting very old now. You are talking about TWO YEARS ago now. Who brought it up - and asked the question ? Please stop posting in colored font - it's very homosexual.
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