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Argentina and Uruguay join Brazil on Palestine
Dec 7^th, 2010 at 4:30pm

The ABC is reporting that Argentina and Uruguay are following Brazil's lead and recognizing Palestine as a state.

Source: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/07/3086974.htm?section=justin

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Argentina and Uruguay have joined Brazil in recognising an independent Palestinian state, earning an immediate sharp rebuke from Israel and causing unease in the United States.

...Mr Timerman said the recognition reflected a general consensus among members of Mercosur, the South American trade bloc.

This is a geopolitical decision, not a moral one.

Historically speaking, the South American nations have been little more than satellite states of the US, and this move is a subtle way of demonstrating to the world (and the US government in particular) that this is no longer the case.

What we're seeing is unprecedented, and is a clear indication of just how enfeebled the US has become over the past decade.

There may be a South American Union with Brazil at the helm on the horizon...

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Argentina and Uruguay join Brazil on Palestine Reply #1 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 4:55pm Funnily enough, even Israel has had diplomatic relations with the PLO and the PNA since 1993... And once the Palestinians stop firing rockets and mortars at Israel, then the Palestinan State will be recognised BY Israel...Pretty simple really..
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Politic New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21	Re: Argentina and Uruguay join Brazil on Palestine Reply #2 - Dec 7^th, 2010 at 6:45pm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations#Current_work_in_progress
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Reply #3 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 9:20am

Considering the Palestinians refuse to recognise the State of Israel, what does it all mean?
Considering that the majority of former 'Palestinian' land is in Jordan today and the last time I checked they are giving nothing away, what does it all mean.
I think these South Americans have too much time on their hands which could be better spent sorting out their own internal corruption issues.

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: Argentina and Uruguay join Brazil on Palestine Reply #4 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 2:19pm You could have something there CL.
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Re: Argentina and Uruguay join Brazil on Palestine
Reply #5 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 7:57pm

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Considering the Palestinians refuse to recognise the State of Israel, what does it all mean?

Who would recognise an illegal entity that was plonked on top of their land? I certainly wouldn't, and I very much doubt you would either.

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Considering that the majority of former 'Palestinian' land is in Jordan today and the last time I checked they are giving nothing away, what does it all mean.

Honestly, I can't believe anyone is still stupid enough to peddle this nonsense.

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I think these South Americans have too much time on their hands which could be better spent sorting out their own internal corruption issues.

Either that, or they no longer have to make decisions they don't believe in, just because of pressure from a waning superpower.

When the U.S stop extending maintenance to the Zionist outpost, like an oilrig in the middle of a swaying ocean, it's going to get washed out. It doesn'tbelong there, and never will, and it's only by force, pressure and buying friends that it's remained for so long. Time for the imposition to end, and for the Russians, Americans, Poles etc. to go back to whence they came.

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Re: Argentina and Uruguay join Brazil on Palestine
Reply #6 - Dec 10^th, 2010 at 10:20am

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 7:57pm:

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Considering the Palestinians refuse to recognise the State of Israel, what does it all mean?

Who would recognise an illegal entity that was plonked on top of their land? I certainly wouldn't, and I very much doubt you would either.

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Considering that the majority of former 'Palestinian' land is in Jordan today and the last time I checked they are giving nothing away, what does it all mean.

Honestly, I can't believe anyone is still stupid enough to peddle this nonsense.

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I think these South Americans have too much time on their hands which could be better spent sorting out their own internal corruption issues.

Either that, or they no longer have to make decisions they don't believe in, just because of pressure from a waning superpower.

When the U.S stop extending maintenance to the Zionist outpost, like an oilrig in the middle of a swaying ocean, it's going to get washed out. It doesn'tbelong there, and never will, and it's only by force, pressure and buying friends that it's remained for so long. Time for the imposition to end, and for the Russians, Americans, Poles etc. to go back to whence they came.

You can read a map as well as the next person Abu, and it doesn't matter from which angle you look at it, most of the former region known as Palestine now sits in a country called Jordan.
And Jordan is a country with a massive 'Palestinian' population, but quite frankly they don't want any more of the riff raff within their borders.
You may think it's a nonsense, but the fact remains.
During the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, Jordan occupied the area of Cisjordan (Judaea/Samaria) now known as West Bank, which it continued to control in accordance with the 1949 Armistice Agreements and a political union formed in December 1948.
The Second Arab-Palestinian Conference held in Jericho on December 1, 1948, proclaimed Abdullah King of Palestine and called for a union of Arab Palestine with the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan.
The Transjordanian Government agreed to the unification on December 7, 1948, and on December 13 the Transjordanian parliament approved the creation of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. The step of unification was ratified by a joint Jordanian National Assembly on April 24, 1950. The Assembly was composed of 20 representatives each from the East and West Bank. The Act of Union contained a protective clause which persevered Arab rights in Palestine without prejudice to any final settlement.
What else remains is the knowledge that this land has always been a part of 'someone' elses empire, so to now claim it as a 'Palestinian' land from 1967 doesn't quite ring true now Abu.
The Arab League gave their answer to the two state solution 62 years ago, and Israel is going no where.
US support of Israel is unwavering, in which case Israel will still be around in another 100 years.

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