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The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #1 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:46pm The best part about the Liberal party's opposition to the carbon tax is that everyday, Australian families will have more in their budget to pay for their bills. Energy bills are lower with no carbon tax.
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Reply #2 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:47pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:42pm:

Beach protection may carry price tag of $700m

Preserving Sydney's beaches against rising sea levels could cost more than $700 million over the next 50 years

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/water-issues/beach-protection-may-carry-price-tag-of-700m-20101207-18ogg.html

If Liberals where such great economic managers, which they are not, why didn't they act on climate change early.

Look at the Federal mess they caused with the murray darling river system, during the time they were in power.

Imagine the mess state Liberals will do in NSW if they win a sure bet election in three months.

Surely, NSW voters realise voting Labor is a waste so should back Greens in NSW to give Liberals some competition to their no action on climate change plan ... which will cost the State dearly.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40710 Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #3 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution. even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels. perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #4 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:58pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:46pm: The best part about the Liberal party's opposition to the carbon tax is that everyday, Australian families will have more in their budget to pay for their bills. Energy bills are lower with no carbon tax. Will they be? Got any proof.
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Reply #5 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:01pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

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Reply #6 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:03pm

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

Got any proof

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Reply #7 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:06pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

What? and lead the world in renewable industries?, and create a renewable industry that can supply the world in product and technology?, NAH, the rightarded sheeple will never buy such forward thinking logic.

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Reply #8 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:08pm

bwood1946 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:03pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

Got any proof

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Green energy is cheaper than polluting energy when all costs are included.

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Reply #9 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:10pm

greens_lose - Quote:

.........Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow. .....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA - the world will follow us, no matter what we do ?
where did you get this ruddcomplex from ????

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Reply #10 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:12pm

I would be quite happy for us to continue to use coal and oil.

Both are cheaper.

We all know and recognize we need more oil. The key is to continue ti increase the search and exploration and refine better methods of of-shore drilling for it.

At the end of the day, all of us would like us to find more oil.

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Reply #11 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:14pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:10pm:

greens_lose - Quote:

.........Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow. .....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA - the world will follow us, no matter what we do ?
where did you get this ruddcomplex from ????

When individual self greed isn't the major driver, as it is with some right wingnut thinking, then the path followed is the path best for the economy and all within that economy.

When another economy out performs, other economies learn and adapt their to benefit.

For the right claiming to be economic managers, they sure are a little rusty on economics.

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Reply #12 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:16pm

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:08pm:

bwood1946 wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:03pm:

____ wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:01pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 12:50pm:

greens_lose - aussie creates 2% of the worlds pollution.

even if we cut our pollution by 100% , to make 0 % it'ld make no difference to the globe ocean levels.

perhaps if you stopped exhaling it'ld help

Yet if we lead in becoming a Green sustainable economy then we will reap the financial reward of a booming economy. Something other economies will copy.

So if we cut our pollution, everyone else will follow.

Got any proof

Angry

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Green energy is cheaper than polluting energy when all costs are included.

If you factor enough fantasy into your equations.

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Reply #13 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:20pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:12pm:

I would be quite happy for us to continue to use coal and oil.

Both are cheaper.

We all know and recognize we need more oil. The key is to continue ti increase the search and exploration and refine better methods of of-shore drilling for it.

At the end of the day, all of us would like us to find more oil.

What are the total climate change costs of coal?

What are the total monetary health costs of coal?

What is the financial cost of environmental damage caused by coal?

What is the financial damage coal has and will inflict onto Australian agriculture?

What is the financial damage coal has and will inflict onto our tourist industry.

What is the financial damage coal has and will inflict onto our fishing industry.

Come on Andrei, If you can not answer any of these questions then you can not claim coal to be cheaper than any other energy source.

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Reply #14 - Dec 8^th, 2010 at 1:21pm

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At the end of the day, all of us would like us to find more oil.

I wouldn't, why continue using a product that pollutes our environment when we could be using much better options? and its only going to get worse, even though you'd prefer India and China to stay third world, your bubble is about to burst, and when it does oil will no doubt get even more expensive. Why not use the many other options, like NATURAL GAS, solar and others that haven't even been tested yet ?because its all just too easy to keep invading middle east countries for their oil resources. You do know that will run out much sooner than later as well, don't you? paticularly since in the next ten to twenty years the likes of China and India will increase the oil useage by at least double of that today.

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