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Dec 14th, 2010 at 9:54pm
 
Lovely Xmas present for their fellow Christians, hack them to death with machetes & axes. Praise the Lord, Halelu-Yah!

"Jehovah is a man of war; Jehovah, is his name." (Exodus 15:3)




Aid groups fear central Africa LRA 'Christmas massacre'


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Man in Ngilima, north-eastern Congo. LRA rebels often carry out their attacks with machetes and axes.


Aid groups have called for efforts to prevent mass killings by one of Africa's most feared rebel militias over the Christmas period.

The aid agencies say a concerted effort is needed to stop the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) from committing what have become known as "Christmas massacres".

LRA fighters killed hundreds of people in the Democratic Republic of Congo and Sudan in December 2008 and 2009.

Hundreds of people were abducted during those attacks.

Figures show that the LRA over the past two years has become the most deadly militia in the DRC, the aid groups say in a report.

On Christmas Day 2008 and over the following three weeks, LRA beat to death more than 800 people in north-eastern DR Congo and Southern Sudan, abducting hundreds more.

In December 2009, the brutal militia killed more than 300 villagers in DR Congo in the run-up to Christmas.

An LRA spokesman denied that his organisation was responsible for the atrocities.

The rebels - originally from Uganda and also roaming across parts of Sudan and the Central African Republic (CAR) - killed or abducted more than 1,000 people in remote areas of DR Congo last year alone, the report says.

Shortly after the 2008 Christmas Massacre I flew to northern DR Congo with the Ugandan army.

The men from Uganda wanted to show me how they were killing the LRA in cooperation with the Congolese military.

The Ugandans were professional soldiers. But they failed.

They failed to deal with the highly-mobile LRA rebels, who - in a bid to to escape capture - are now spread over an area the size of the UK.

The Ugandan effort showed how complex it is to deal with a rural rebel group in a very underdeveloped region.

There are virtually no tarred roads there - telecommunications are basic.

There is some talk about the African Union --and even the United States --taking a military initiative to solve the LRA issue.

But one of Africa's best armies - that of Uganda - has failed.

So Africa may still need help from outside to deal with the LRA.

"The LRA abducts, mutilates, rapes and kills women, men and children, using extreme violence against the most vulnerable," the report adds.

The militia is also notorious for kidnapping children to save as soldiers and sex slaves.

"It is unbelievable that world leaders continue to tolerate brutal violence against some of the most isolated villages in central Africa and that this has been allowed to continue for more than 20 years," said Marcel Stoessel from Oxfam, one of the 19 organisations behind the report.

US President Barack Obama in November outlined a plan to remove the LRA's leader, Joseph Kony, and disarm the LRA. Mr Kony is wanted by the International Criminal Court (ICC).

Mr Obama was responding to US legislation passed in May promising a comprehensive strategy to put a stop to the LRA's killings, rapes and mutliations.

But the new report says more humanitarian aid and a more concerted military effort is needed to stop the rebels from committing more atrocities.

"Recent signs of diplomatic commitment from the African Union and the United States must provide tangible answers that protect the population from violence," the agencies say.

The report also calls on the UN Security Council to put the rebel group on its agenda.

Source: BBC
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Re: Christian terrorists will carry out Xmas Massacres
Reply #1 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 7:07am
 
Christianity does not teach/order.. killing.murder,rape.pillage of any kind.
you will not find these orders in our Bible.

Just because a group of murderers use the Lords name does not mean they are Christians..in fact they would be the complete opposite.

this report horrifies me, but for you to use it as a means of hatred horrifies me even more so.

I agree its time the UN took charge over this curse that seem to afflict this whole continent..

HOW!! I wish I knew!
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Reply #2 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 7:21am
 
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Christianity does not teach/order.. killing.murder,rape.pillage of any kind.
you will not find these orders in our Bible.


Really? so what's this then?

"Thus saith Jehovah of hosts: I have considered what Amalek did to Israel, how he set himself against him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.  Now go and smite Amalek, and destroy utterly all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (! Samuel 15:2-3)

Men, women children, even suckling infants, the whole lot. And this is not an isolated verse, the Bible is full of such things.
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Reply #3 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 9:48am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 15th, 2010 at 7:21am:
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Christianity does not teach/order.. killing.murder,rape.pillage of any kind.
you will not find these orders in our Bible.


Really? so what's this then?

"Thus saith Jehovah of hosts: I have considered what Amalek did to Israel, how he set himself against him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.  Now go and smite Amalek, and destroy utterly all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (! Samuel 15:2-3)

Men, women children, even suckling infants, the whole lot. And this is not an isolated verse, the Bible is full of such things.


You are a mendacious ijit, Abu (may I call you Abu?).

As a Mohammedan, you have signed up to the simple-minded idiocy that the Koran is the unaltered word of god and so your sharia law has to be based on its pronouncements.

However, not everyone is so stupid. Non-Muslims are not only able but are expected to think for themselves. Our secular laws are not based on mindlessly cleaving to ancient texts.

You know this but are two faced enough to come up with Bible quotes as if they were our versions of your fossilised sharia.
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Reply #4 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 10:06am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 15th, 2010 at 7:21am:
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Christianity does not teach/order.. killing.murder,rape.pillage of any kind.
you will not find these orders in our Bible.


Really? so what's this then?

"Thus saith Jehovah of hosts: I have considered what Amalek did to Israel, how he set himself against him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.  Now go and smite Amalek, and destroy utterly all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (! Samuel 15:2-3)

Men, women children, even suckling infants, the whole lot. And this is not an isolated verse, the Bible is full of such things.


What's this then you ask?
It just shows the State of Israel was known as Israel by the ancients 2500 years before the State was officially recognised by the UN.
It also shows there is not a Palestinian in sight.
Thanks Abu. Smiley
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Reply #5 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 10:23am
 

islamabu - as per usual, it is from the OT, which is for jews.

Also, it does NOT say for christians to slay nonchristians on that basis.

unlike the koran does to muzzies, the toilet paper invented by your paedophile prince.
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Reply #6 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 5:55pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 15th, 2010 at 10:23am:
islamabu - as per usual, it is from the OT, which is for jews.

Also, it does NOT say for christians to slay nonchristians on that basis.

unlike the koran does to muzzies, the toilet paper invented by your paedophile prince.




I kind of expected him to come up with something like that..always taken out of context of course..you can twist anything really to suit the occasion. and thats what this guy does best.
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Reply #7 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 6:52pm
 
What is twisted to suit the context codswal?

It clearly says that Jehovah (the God of the Bible) is commanding his followers to slay kids and infants (ie. the kind of stuff 'good Christians' like the LRA are still doing till this day). There's not much worse that this can be twisted into...

So you asked for it, and you got it, do you have the decency to answer? Or are you just going to slither your way out of it?
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Reply #8 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 8:28pm
 

slither out ???????? no, I'm not a cowardly backward muzzie

Its not for christians.

if you had read the bible, you'ld know this childish thing.
had you read it, you'ld be a christian
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Reply #9 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 10:25pm
 
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had you read it, you'ld be a christian


Why would I wanna worship a "man of war" when I can worship the creator of all existence?

No thanks. Reading the Bible was what made me wake up to the realities of Christianity, and to instead choose Islam. You just never read it, that's why you persist in your polytheistic religion, because you don't even comprehend what it teaches.
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Reply #10 - Dec 15th, 2010 at 10:40pm
 

yeah meataxe, i've read it twice, entirely cover to cover.
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Reply #11 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:17am
 
codswal wrote on Dec 15th, 2010 at 7:07am:
Christianity does not teach/order.. killing.murder,rape.pillage of any kind.
you will not find these orders in our Bible.


That is true codswal.

But clearly the Hebrews [of the old covenant] were not the Christians of the new covenant.
Jeremiah 31:31
The Hebrews of the old covenant, in what they did, were a people who were rightly guided, by their God, in violently cleansing the land they came into, of its wickedness, of its wicked people.

If you doubt this, read the Old Testament Bible.
But, the violence in the Old Testament Bible, was not justified by those who called themselves, the Hebrews.
The Hebrews, were not justified, because they were Hebrews [special].
The violence in the Old Testament Bible, was specific, and was justified by God's righteousness.

And it is clear, in studying the OT Bible, and it is stated in the Bible, that the children of Jacob [Israel] were chosen, specifically, to be a weapon in Gods hand, against those who God hates - THE WICKED.
Jeremiah 51

But, Christians today have no sanction from God, to commit such violence [on God's behalf].
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Reply #12 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:30am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 15th, 2010 at 10:25pm:
....Reading the Bible was what made me wake up to the realities of Christianity, and to instead choose Islam. You just never read it, that's why you persist in your polytheistic religion, because you don't even comprehend what it teaches.



Abu, you quoted;
1 Samuel 15:2
Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3  Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

My God, the God of Israel, has a special place in his heart for the Amalekites [the Edomites, who are the children of Esau, ...who are, the 'Palestinians' of today].

Read it.
Exodus 17:14-16

"Remember what Amalek did unto thee by the way, when ye were come forth out of Egypt..."
Deuteronomy 25:17-18

The God of Israel has declared that the Amalek people, are a proud and wicked people.
And the God of Israel has declared that the Amalek people, harbour only hatred in their heart, for their brother [Israel].
And this bitter hatred [of God's people] has come down to us today.
And it resides in the hearts of those who refer to themselves, as 'Palestinians'.

"...These accounts relate the sort of trickery, terrorism, and underhandedness that the Amalekites seem to use perpetually. One can only conclude that these tactics are passed from generation to generation, becoming a hereditary trait. God has recorded these episodes to indicate to us how Amalek historically treats Israel."

Read their fate.
Ezekiel 35

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"...he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation;"

Abu,
You quoted;
Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

You and yours, have no idea what is coming, do you Abu.
Wink

Speaking of you, and yours...

"They are vanity, the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.
The portion of Jacob is not like them:
....Behold, I will sling out the inhabitants of the land at this once, and will distress them, that they may find it so."


i.e.
The wicked will be expelled from the 'land', by God himself.
Isaiah 26:21

Abu,
I know that you [moslems] like to point to the savagery and violence in the OT bible.
And i know that ISLAM teaches moslems to point to such accounts in the OT bible, to [erroneously] justify the ISLAMIC violence we see, today, against non-moslems.
Because, ISLAM is a false shepherd.

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The truth.
We, mankind, all of us, are wanderers ['lost sheep'] in this world.
And we are all, 'strangers in a strange land'.

The purpose of this life, is merely so that we can [individually] demonstrate, plainly, if we want to live in the light, or if we want to live in the darkness.
Sadly, much of mankind will choose the darkness [i believe].
And the nature of the wicked, compels them [to remain in rebellion].

Jesus pointed to mankind's rebellious nature in some of his parables;

The tares
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43

The lost son
Luke 15:11-32

The wicked tenants
Luke 20:9-15

My advice to you Abu, and your brothers, is to open your eyes.
Or, to go to hell.
Smiley))))))

Because, there will be no 'escape', in our [your] death [in the death of our [your] physical bodies].
Jesus himself confirmed that in death, we will fall into the hands of our God, our spirit father, our creator.
Matthew 10:28
Luke 12:4-5

The violence that we read about, in the OT Bible, was justified by God, against those who, being [spiritually] unclean, sought to take hold of, and to possess, what was holy [to God].
e.g.
God's holy land, was given ['promised'] to a holy people, or at least, given to a people who were covenanted to maintain their holiness [their sanctified condition] before their [holy] God.
Hence the need for God's chosen people to eject the unholy nations and people, from God's holy land.

A Holy people.
The Holy land.
A Holy spirit [God's spirit].
...and these concepts are all connected with each other.


Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Our God is clever, and just.
Because God knows, that men who are wicked, are dumb.
And God knows very well, how to separate the goats from the sheep.
And that, is what he is doing.
By our own choices, he lets us [mankind] choose our own fate, ...for ourselves.
That was always his plan, from day 1.


Look at this world, today.
Nothing can stop God's plan [for us].
It is man's own nature which is driving God's plan forward.

God is clever.
And wicked men are dumb.
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Re: Christian terrorists will carry out Xmas Massacres
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My God, the God of Israel, has a special place in his heart for the Amalekites [the Edomites, who are the children of Esau, ...who are, the 'Palestinians' of today].


I guess that's why Rabbi's have given rulings it's permissble to slaughter their children then... And why Christian nations like America have no qualms providing the weaponry and diplomatic protection by which to carry such policies out.

Again I assert that my original claims are correct. Jehovah is a "man of war" as the Bible supposedly claims he is, and his followers are indeed child murdering animals.

This makes it quite clear why Christians try to make such claims about Muslims (even though Islam always has EXPRESSLY forbidden killing non-combatant women and children in warfare), because the best defence is a good offence isn't it? Accuse the Muslims of what you yourselves clearly believe in AND practice, and that way they'll be on the back foot. Yet anyone who actually has half an iota of grey matter in his cranium, and can see past the propaganda will find it's the exact opposite. It is the adherents of the Biblical belief systems which go around slaughtering women children because their book/god teaches it to be righteous (as you mention above).

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was specific, and was justified by God's righteousness.


I'm sure all those who commit atrocities in God's name believe it's justified by God's righteousness....

Nothing unique about that case, as you'd like to try and suggest.
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Reply #14 - Dec 20th, 2010 at 9:05am
 
abu_rashid wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 9:50pm:
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My God, the God of Israel, has a special place in his heart for the Amalekites [the Edomites, who are the children of Esau, ...who are, the 'Palestinians' of today].


...This makes it quite clear why Christians try to make such claims about Muslims (even though Islam always has EXPRESSLY forbidden killing non-combatant women and children in warfare)...



And there you go again Abu, misrepresenting ISLAM, whenever it serves your purpose [i.e. soft Jihad].








The truth.

ISLAMIC scholar Sayyid Qutb,
".....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb



Allah's finest, to six year old child...
"Just walk up to those nice Kuffar soldiers, and press this button.",

June 24, 2007
The Taliban's 6-year-old suicide bomber
The boy was spotted after appearing confused at a checkpoint. The vest was defused and no one was hurt.
"They placed explosives on a six-year-old boy and told him to walk up to the Afghan police or army and push the button," said Captain Michael Cormier, the company commander who intercepted the child, in a statement. "Fortunately, the boy did not understand and asked patrolling officers why he had this vest on."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017077.php
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,,2109574,00.html


7 November 2007
Afghanistan mourns bomb victims
......President Karzai said about 35 people had been killed - most of them children, teachers and MPs - while the provincial governor told the BBC there had been 41 deaths.
......But our correspondent says many questions remain, including that of responsibility.
The Taleban have denied that they carried out the attack, but they and al-Qaeda are the only ones known to use suicide bombs in Afghanistan so far.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7082481.stm



Here, on Oz Pol, some nice pics...
Israel soldiers speak out on Gaza
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1247651281/5#5

AND,
IDF shot children waving white flags
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1250207614/2#2






Quote:
(...Islam always has EXPRESSLY forbidden killing non-combatant women and children in warfare)...




The truth, exposed...

"The Prophet passed by me at a place called Al-Abwa or Waddan, and was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." "


i.e.
Paraphrasing Mohammed's determination on civilians in war zones...

"Pagan women and children???
The highest imperative, is to secure pagan women and children as war booty.
But, if it serves ISLAM's cause [Jihad] then kill them!"



details here, on Oz Pol....
Islam specifically forbids killing of non-combat
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251160915/0#0



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