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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #45 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:48pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:19pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:13pm:
The hypocrisy of the ALP.


"Will Labor be as tough on its own policies in the wake of this disaster as it was on the Howard Government’s in 2001, after the sinking of the SIEV X in Indonesian waters?

   TONY JONES: Con Sciacca, ...In the face of this tragedy, was it a mistake for Kim Beazley to link the deaths of these boat people to the Government’s failure to get a deal from Indonesia to stop them leaving?

   CON SCIACCA, SHADOW MINISTER FOR IMMIGRATION: Tony, I don’t think that that is the case. What Kim Beazley clearly said was that this was a human tragedy of enormous proportions.

   He then went on to say that, if there had not been a failure in Government policy in stopping this insidious people smuggling trade, the fact is that this may not have happened.

   He wasn’t blaming anybody. He didn’t blame anybody at all.

   TONY JONES: Con Sciacca, that is tantamount to blame, isn’t it? Suggesting that a failure of Government policy had something to do with the deaths of people in a tragedy like this?

   CON SCIACCA: No, what he was actually saying was, is that, if we were able to stop them coming from Indonesia in the first place, that these sorts of things wouldn’t happen.

Will Labor suggest what Senator John Faulkner insinuated against Howard - that its security services had deliberately murdered these boat people:

   In 2002 then Labor frontbencher and later defence minister John Faulkner demanded the “authorities” answer questions about steps taken to disrupt people-smugglers, asking whether the SIEV X had been sabotaged and said the protocols for ASIS and the AFP operating in Indonesia “were not meant as a direct or indirect licence to kill”."
(Andrew Bolt – Thursday, December 16, 10 (12:11 pm))


Yes and now the Libs are showing their hypocrisy by doing exactly the same thing.
Which is why I fully endorse Prevailing's call for REVOLUTION! Cheesy




You've missed the point.
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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #46 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:48pm
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.




So Andrew Bolt sent troops into Iraq?



So Julia Gillard put people on a boat?
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Reply #47 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:50pm
 
I do not believe he should either resign or be sacked over this.

I also do not understand how old Tokyo Rosebolt's style of propaganda distribution would be employable by any media organisation in the first place.
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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #48 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:50pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.



havent got a clue what any of that meant... but I have jst watched jooooooolia on ABC,, where she has talked and talked and said nothing..

what a boring woman this is... and these people are drowning and she says NOTHING...just rhetorics...

she shouldnt be allowed to resign.. she should be sacked.. this whole company.[laughingly called a govt] is a disgrace.
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Reply #49 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:52pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.



havent got a clue what any of that meant... .



Logic is obviously not your forte.
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Reply #50 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:55pm
 


On the subject of publishing leaks, what was Bolt's position on Laurie Oakes' actions during the last election campaign - did he applaud or lament the associated Walkley Award!?

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Reply #51 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:59pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:48pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.




So Andrew Bolt sent troops into Iraq?



So Julia Gillard put people on a boat?




So Julia Gillard isn't in government then in your eyes.
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Reply #52 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:01pm
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:59pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:48pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.




So Andrew Bolt sent troops into Iraq?



So Julia Gillard put people on a boat?




So Julia Gillard isn't in government then in your eyes.


She is in government, yes.
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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #53 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:05pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.



havent got a clue what any of that meant...



Yes agree codswal. It just did not make sense.
Maybe he was going for that OJ Simpson Chewbacca defence, where it simply did not make sense.

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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #54 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:06pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:01pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:59pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:48pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.




So Andrew Bolt sent troops into Iraq?



So Julia Gillard put people on a boat?




So Julia Gillard isn't in government then in your eyes.


She is in government, yes.



Is Andrew Bolt in government?
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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #55 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:07pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
havent got a clue what any of that meant... but I have jst watched jooooooolia on ABC,, where she has talked and talked and said nothing..

what a boring woman this is... and these people are drowning and she says NOTHING...just rhetorics...

she shouldnt be allowed to resign.. she should be sacked.. this whole company.[laughingly called a govt] is a disgrace.



Yes the Australian voters deserve the right to vote Julia Gillard out of office.

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Reply #56 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:08pm
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:05pm:
codswal wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.



havent got a clue what any of that meant...



Yes agree codswal. It just did not make sense.
Maybe he was going for that OJ Simpson Chewbacca defence, where it simply did not make sense.




It made sense to you when you first replied, but not now?
Pinned in an intellectual corner, you now look around to garner 'moral support' to save face.
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Reply #57 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:09pm
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:06pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:01pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:59pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:48pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:47pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.




So Andrew Bolt sent troops into Iraq?



So Julia Gillard put people on a boat?




So Julia Gillard isn't in government then in your eyes.


She is in government, yes.



Is Andrew Bolt in government?


No.
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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #58 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:10pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:08pm:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:05pm:
codswal wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:50pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:28pm:
So Bolt calls for Gillard to resign after this huh. If Gillard has blood on her hands for this, Bolt does also for the Iraq war. But asking Bolt to acknowledge his hypocrisy is pointless. He hurls insults and abuse then gets uppity when it gets thrown back. Maybe Bolt should move into politics. Nar, he wouldn't do that, then he'd have to be responsible for what he says, he'd have to get out from behind his safety cell and put his violent rhetoric into effect.
I, for one, will not be so tolerant if he ever throws unjustified abuse in my direction.



havent got a clue what any of that meant...



Yes agree codswal. It just did not make sense.
Maybe he was going for that OJ Simpson Chewbacca defence, where it simply did not make sense.




It made sense to you when you first replied, but not now?
Pinned in an intellectual corner, you now look around to garner 'moral support' to save face.




Once again your comments simply do not make sense chewie
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Reply #59 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:12pm
 


Meanwhile, over at the Punch...

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/the-day-both-extremes-almost-met-in-the-midd...

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The day both extremes almost met in the middle


by Tory Maguire

16 Dec 04:00pm

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Julia Gillard is not just between a rock and a hard place in the aftermath of the Christmas Island tragedy - she’s wedged between an angry Left and a rabid Right.

It was hardly unexpected that Andrew Bolt and his gang quickly trotted out the “blood on her hands” mantra after dozens of asylum-seekers met their awful deaths yesterday, but they’ve been joined by a loud chorus of refugee advocates claiming the atrocity could have been prevented with a softer government policy.

The only people not attacking the Prime Minister today are the Opposition, who’ve remained for the past 24 hours particularly civil towards Gillard and her Immigration Minister Chris Bowen. And Gillard’s announcement this afternoon of a standing group including the Opposition and representatives from the Greens to examine the fact of the boat’s sinking could well prolong that cease-fire beyond the usual limits.

Gillard broke her summer holiday this afternoon to give a press conference in Sydney - where she was unable to shed much light on the how the vessel went undetected by Australian border authorities until 5.48am Christmas Island time yesterday, when it was already “hard up” against the cliffs and “clearly in distress”.

The facts, the Prime Minister said, needed to be established before judgements could be made about what, if any, culpability her government’s policy held. “These conversations will be had, as they should be had,” she said. But not today.

Instead, by including shadow immigration minister Scott Morrison and and shadow attorney-general Michael Keenan in a “bi-partisan reporting mechanism”, Gillard has made it very difficult for them to start bleating about who’s responsible.

(Update 7pm: The Opposition has declined Gillard’s offer to take part.)

Gillard said she neither sought, nor received, any undertaking from Tony Abbott that in exchange for inclusion on the standing committee the Opposition would lay off the finger pointing.

It’s a tenuous truce, considering the very loud, very acrimonious debate going on outside the mainstream political parties today.

Bolt’s not the only one saying the tragedy was an inevitable result of the Rudd/Gillard softening of the Howard-era border protection stance. It’s undeniable the rate of boat arrivals has increased exponentially since 1998, from the trickle it was towards the end of the Coalition government.

Something’s made the Indonesian people smugglers and their desperate clients think it’s worth the risk to make the mad dash to Australian waters.

But international coverage of the disaster has taken a different tack. Numerous overseas media outlets, such as the UK Independent, are reporting Gillard is under pressure to soften the government’s border protection policy, not toughen it up.

They’re basing this analysis on comments from refugee advocates such as Pino Migliorino, chairman of the Federation of Ethnic Communities Councils of Australia, who called the incident a “wake-up call” for the government, and Ian Rintoul from the Refugee Action Coalition, who said “unless the government changes its policies and adopts a welcome refugee policy, there will be more tragedies.”

Gillard has managed to upset both sides of the ledger equally.

They both say they want the same thing - to avoid more loss of life. In fact, headlines such as “Refugee policy blamed for wreck” could equally be applied to stories about the response from either camp.

They just have very different ways of getting there.

Regardless, Gillard can only continue to put off the conversation that “should be had” for a short period. Her adherence to the weak “push factor” argument when asked this afternoon to explain the huge increase in boat arrivals just doesn’t cut it.

Sadly for the lefties calling for her to open the gates, Gillard will be unable to ignore stories such as this report showing a massive majority of respondents to an online poll today have no sympathy for asylum-seekers, even in light of the terrible scenes of Christmas Island.

The Right and Left might have met in the middle today, but it won’t last long.


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