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Australian Navy becomes Gillard's scapegoat
Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:21am
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/navy-becomes-focus-as-grief-fuels-asylum-anger/story-fn59niix-1225973013707

PROTESTING asylum-seekers have questioned why the navy did not do more to help people on the boat that crashed into rocks on Christmas Island.

Some detainees, meanwhile, screamed out about lost family members.

After a heated protest inside the island's Phosphate Hill camp, which included at least one survivor of the boat tragedy, about 70 detainees last night broke out of the camp. They started marching down the road, but were blocked by a chain of Serco security guards linking arms. After jostling with the guards, they sat down outside the gates of the camp.

The man from the boat, lifted on to the fence during the protest, pulled up his shirt to reveal deep scratches on his back and arms. Another young man in a singlet cried out: "The baby, three months old, is dead. My family, parents, daughter, father."

He questioned whether the navy could have done more. "The navy give two boats. They were shouting, 'Please help me, navy. Where is the navy?"'
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Reply #1 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:23am
 
So the illegals pay thousands of dollars to deliberately put themselves knowing of course if the Navy rescue them then it's a free ticket to Aust.

Now they are blaming the Australian Navy for not giving them this free ticket?  Angry
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Reply #2 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:53am
 
Grubby blame games smear brave rescuers
Miranda Devine From: The Sunday Telegraph December 19, 2010 12:00AM 

CHRISTMAS Island harbourmaster Dave Robertson has a better idea than most who the heroes were of the asylum-seeker boat tragedy.

"What the navy and Customs did to save that many people in those conditions is extraordinary. [They] are heroes," he said.

With cyclonic five-metre high waves and dangerous debris in the water from the broken-up wooden fishing vessel, it was extraordinarily difficult to navigate inflatable rescue boats close to the rocky shore and pluck drowning people to safety.

But our naval and customs personnel managed to save 41 asylum seekers, including a little orphaned boy and a woman whose husband and seven-year-old son had perished.

Despite these efforts, fanatical refugee advocates and fellow political opportunists, who have probably caused more harm than good in the whole debate, were busy offloading blame from themselves and the Government which they have so successfully influenced.

Their insinuation was that some shadowy force in the navy, Customs or Border Protection Command had been "tracking" the boat, officially known as SIEV 221, on its journey, and had deliberately left it to founder.

Their accusations aren't as blatant as they were when the Howard government was in charge, but the dog-whistle was clear.

Former diplomat and SIEV X crusader Tony Kevin didn't blame the navy outright for the deaths, as he has done before, but he was suddenly an expert on radar.

"The intelligence on what boats are coming comes mostly from the JORN [radar] system which covers all the waters between Australia and Indonesia," he told ABC radio the day of the tragedy. "It's a very well tried procedure. Everybody involved knows exactly what to do."

He left open the question of how such super-duper technology managed to miss SIEV221 - but his implication was clear.

The next day, when actual radar experts pointed out that a wooden vessel in cyclonic weather in the pre-dawn darkness is hellishly difficult to detect, Kevin was reduced to saying, well, the boat had "metal motors and they can be tracked by [radar]".

The calumny piled upon the Royal Australian Navy is despicable. It was the same smear behind the explosion of another boat off Ashmore Reef last year, in which five people died.

Again, naval personnel risked their lives to rescue the survivors. Yet they were scapegoated in the coronial inquest, which focused on their supposed blunders and the accusation they had saved their colleagues first.

It's impossible to understand the real motives of those spreading wild conspiracy theories about a "delayed" rescue last week but they only add to the distress of asylum seekers who are primed to believe the worst about authority anyway, because of their life experiences.

Now detainees on Christmas Island have been protesting and are reportedly angry because they have been led to believe the RAN turned a blind eye to the distress of SIEV 221. Misplaced distrust isn't a good start for people looking to become citizens.

The fact is, nine boats in the past three years have managed to slip through to our offshore islands without being spotted, so what happened last week was not so surprising.

The Customs vessel ACV Triton was already loaded up with 108 asylum seekers whose boats had been intercepted earlier in the week, but reportedly had not been able to dock at Flying Fish Cove because of the stormy weather. Along with HMAS Pirie, it was sheltering on the other side of the island, several kilometres from the stricken vessel.

After the distress signals started coming though from 6am on Wednesday, both vessels made their way around the island and dispatched tenders, which were pulling out survivors by 7am.

Other boats have sunk en route to Australia but this time the horror was filmed close-up, the howls of fear and pain were audible, the babies and children were seen one minute, gone the next. Australians won't soon forget the feeling of helplessness.

But the blame doesn't belong to the navy. SIEV221 would never have set sail if not for the Rudd government's needless meddling with Howard-era policies which had worked effectively since late 2001 to stop the boats, deprive people-smugglers of business and prevent such loss of life. The tragedy was inevitable the moment those policies were dismantled.

So determined were the Howard-haters to demonise their nemesis they became blind to the humanitarian benefits of his difficult decisions.

Julia Gillard can no longer hold two mutually contradictory policies on boat people - tough talk and soft policies which lure asylum seekers to their deaths. Either she removes what the Indonesians call "the sugar" from the table, adopting the plan proposed by the Opposition before the last election. Or she does what
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Reply #3 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:53am
 


I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!





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Reply #4 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:54am
 
Julia Gillard can no longer hold two mutually contradictory policies on boat people - tough talk and soft policies which lure asylum seekers to their deaths. Either she removes what the Indonesians call "the sugar" from the table, adopting the plan proposed by the Opposition before the last election. Or she does what the former Queensland Labor Party secretary Cameron Milner has urged: Increase our "UN refugee quota tenfold, more if necessary," to "provide safe harbour to people in desperate need".

Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison put it best last week when he said the accident "represents a realisation of our worst fears. The lives of the people on these boats and their families are as precious as our own".

That is the genuine response of Australians. We saw it in the heartbroken faces of Christmas Island locals who tried to haul survivors to safety. We saw it in the bravery of our naval personnel. Rather than searching for the worst devils of our nature, we should acknowledge the angels.



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Reply #5 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:57am
 
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I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!


i.e. : It might take a while to slime this one out of shape.


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Reply #6 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:59am
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:57am:
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I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!


i.e. : It might take a while to slime this one out of shape.


...on dial up that may take more than a moment.




No longer than it takes a slime like you to utter crap.
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Reply #7 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:06am
 
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aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:57am:
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I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!


i.e. : It might take a while to slime this one out of shape.


...on dial up that may take more than a moment.




No longer than it takes a slime like you to utter crap.


Poor vegi the only person in AUST  on dial up    LOL
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Reply #8 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:11am
 
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aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 9:57am:
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I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!


i.e. : It might take a while to slime this one out of shape.


...on dial up that may take more than a moment.




No longer than it takes a slime like you to utter crap.



Just keep working on your el cheapo, dodgy twist veg.  We promis to believe everything you slime spin at us.

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Reply #9 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:14am
 
But the blame doesn't belong to the navy. SIEV221 would never have set sail if not for the Rudd government's needless meddling with Howard-era policies which had worked effectively since late 2001 to stop the boats, deprive people-smugglers of business and prevent such loss of life. The tragedy was inevitable the moment those policies were dismantled.

So determined were the Howard-haters to demonise their nemesis they became blind to the humanitarian benefits of his difficult decisions.
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Reply #10 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:16am
 
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I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!



...on dial up that may take more than a moment.




We can see that you`ve totally missed the point veg.  Now if you come back with something so incredibly silly again, that we`ll all be struck speechless, you will have won some sort of point.

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Reply #11 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:19am
 

maqqa - given ALL the encouragement judas killrudd has given the criminals, i'm not surprised they are annoyed the navy weren't there to chaperone them across from the poo country they came from.

It's ALL the PM's responsibility.
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Reply #12 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:19am
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:16am:
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I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!



...on dial up that may take more than a moment.




We can see that you`ve totally missed the point veg.  Now if you come back with something so incredibly silly again, that we`ll all be struck speechless, you will have won some sort of point.


How long before Casino joins in this witch hunt
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Reply #13 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:20am
 
nichy wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:14am:
But the blame doesn't belong to the navy. SIEV221 would never have set sail if not for the Rudd government's needless meddling with Howard-era policies which had worked effectively since late 2001 to stop the boats, deprive people-smugglers of business and prevent such loss of life. The tragedy was inevitable the moment those policies were dismantled.

So determined were the Howard-haters to demonise their nemesis they became blind to the humanitarian benefits of his difficult decisions.



This is the core of the matter Nichy, people who put their own touchy feely, feel good, wine bar "humanitarianism" above reality, and the higher risks of others, are to blame for these deaths, and others like them.
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Reply #14 - Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:22am
 
FRED. wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:19am:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 19th, 2010 at 10:16am:
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I'll get back to ya on this one maqqa when I find the details of what Abbott had installed  ( responsibility wise in this area also) for the navy !!



...on dial up that may take more than a moment.




We can see that you`ve totally missed the point veg.  Now if you come back with something so incredibly silly again, that we`ll all be struck speechless, you will have won some sort of point.


How long before Casino joins in this witch hunt



Casino is sheduled for the weekly lobotomy this morning.
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