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Reply #2070 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 3:57am
 
Review the AFL child protection policy ( pg 6)

-This includes hurting children emotionally by way of harassing them on facebook, texting their nude photos to ones mates, and emailing their photos, identity, and personal circumstances onto others also.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-blasts-st-kilda-schoolgir...


http://www.afl.com.au/Portals/0/afl_docs/afl_hq/Policies/AFL_Member_Protection_P...


Lets take a look at the AFL's respect and responsibility policy again...

Now, even if they claim they had no idea how old the girl was after meeting her at her school, there's always this policy which tells our players how they must treat others, be they man woman or child, of which they have clearly breached.

http://www.afl.com.au/portals/0/afl_docs/afl_hq/Policies/Respect%20&%20Responsib...


Now, how about harassing 'Known-to-be' pregnant woman, and enough so that the mother becomes so distressed that she loses 2 babies?

http://www.victimlaw.info/victimlaw/pages/victimsRight.jsp

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She has a strong case/cases...  against numerous government departments, the AFL, St Kilda, and Collingwood clubs,  individual players, officials, managers  themselves even.

With the mistakes the above have made, she could make a living spending the next 10 years of her life going to court at their expense.

And they know it, this is why they are absolutely sh1tting themselves, keeping media tabs on her, trying to keep her busy defending herself via social-networking sites ...because they are stalling her, hoping she wont bother taking civil action against a number of them.

Cool Also, now they have appointed their new female manager/lawyer and nanny Sarah Galbally, they would want to give her enough time to slap together their defence.

http://www.childrenscourt.vic.gov.au/CA256CA800011129/page/Information+for+Child...







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Reply #2071 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 4:30am
 
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A good lawyer could argue they were in a position of authority at that school visit if rendezvous plans were made. Section 48 of the Victorian Crimes Act raises the age of consent to 18 where the child is under the care, supervision or authority of the adult with whom they had sexual intercourse. S. 48 (1) A person must not take part in an act of sexual penetration with a 16 or 17 year old child to whom he or she is not married and who is under his or her care, supervision or authority. Penalty: Level 5 imprisonment (10 years maximum).


That'd have to be a very very good lawyer...or outright liar....
Because no matter how you look at it, the girl was NOT under the 'care,supervision or authority' of the players after the football match in Sydney...

So unless you've got proof that sex took place AT the 'Leadership Clinic', there is no way the police would even bring a charge under that law and the Vic DPP wouldn't enter it for a hearing, and no judge or magistrate would bother allowing it to go to trial..


So give up on this idea mellie....There 'might' be a case in the 'viral email' thing...I'm not sure, but I think they'd need to trace it back to the originator, to make a case..
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Reply #2072 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 4:57am
 
She has all the proof she needs! What happened to Nude Nick taking civil action against her personally, re the nude pics?

He and the rest have backed down, because they know if they make a move, she will come out with all guns a blazing.

Cool...

The AFL have or had (rumoured to have been dissolved recently) a memorandum of understanding with the Vic Pol whereby the AFL would be contacted about anything they thought they should be aware of so they could get a heads-up on the case, allegations in order to protect their "brand".

Their brand stinks!

The message the AFL and club itself have sent it's players over the past years is...

Do wrong =  Pat on the back by team mates and No consequences.

Even your thick-skulled footballers can figure this one out.

Do bad= no punish!!

If they had the MOU arrangement with the Vic Police imagine what arrangements are in place with the Media?

Either way it goes Giz, they are in a whole lot of trouble...they have even souped up their manager-Lawyer,(Dumped Matthew Drain) and appointed Sarah Galbally, she started yesterday I believe.

Giz, even if she were 30, a prostitute, this and bit the heads off chooks, they are still in strife with respects to the overall miss-management of the entire affair, the stress and harassment she endured during her pregnancy.

Read this Giz...

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-blasts-st-kilda-schoolgir...

Then read this..

http://www.afl.com.au/portals/0/afl_docs/afl_hq/Policies/Respect%20&%20Responsib...

End of story!

They are gone, and they know it...why do you think they have appointed a player-list manager/ AFL Lawyer to their ranks, and sacked Matthew Drain?

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Reply #2073 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:05am
 
There's no point in re-posting those links every 2nd post mellie

While I agree with the first one about Demetriou abusing the people passing on the viral email, it's STILL almost a year old..

And the 2nd one has no bearing on the case at hand anyway..
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Reply #2074 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:09am
 
They had hoped the media would exhaust her, leave her feeling exhausted, weak, and unempowered...hence they waited to see what would happen before getting a new manager, one that doubles up as a club lawyer.  The time has come!

They are battening down the hatches, preparing for this girl to go in for the kill.

Cool Her blogs now closed for discussion, fewer distractions, she is now being legally represented and they are preparing an almighty case against those who sat back and watched it all unfold.

Had they not abandoned, harassed, threatened and distressed her during her pregnancy, perhaps those babies would be still alive today.

She has the transcripts!

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Reply #2075 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:17am
 
She has become the exploited poster-child for not only the St Kilda FC, but the AFL, media and Vic-Police also.

A schoolgirl let down by the system, entirely!

A heavily pregnant 16 year old schoolgirl wearing St Kilda merchandise is never a good look....

How do you think major sponsors will respond to this?

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Reply #2076 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:19am
 
Basically, either way it goes...the team is screwed!

Is this fair on those players who do the right thing?

No, not at all.

The AFL and their team has let them down too, hence some of them are leaving as soon as their contracts are up.

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Reply #2077 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:22am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:05am:
There's no point in re-posting those links every 2nd post mellie

While I agree with the first one about Demetriou abusing the people passing on the viral email, it's STILL almost a year old..

And the 2nd one has no bearing on the case at hand anyway..


The fact that it is a year old, this and wasn't dealt with is what's caused this mess.

She just kept going until someone would listen!

Now they have...finally!



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Reply #2078 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:57am
 

Also, there's this too....re Milne

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/22/2933428.htm

And Andrew Lovett... I mean, really...the victim of Lovett was forensically examined and was documented to have been ripped to shreds, had sustained internal injuries, lacerations consistent with a violent rape, hence he was sacked!

But despite this... Lovett truly believes he did nothing wrong, even though his own team mate found the girl curled up in a foetal position on the floor hysterical the next morning bleeding, this and admits his team mate did bad.

But did he go to prison?

Yes woman need to take responsibility for their actions, and personal safety, ABSOLUTELY...but there's just no excuse for this, and we need to define the boundaries.

This culture of abusing loose woman is out of hand, and whilst i'm aware there's a phenomena known as  PTWS, (Post traumatic whore syndrome), we need to have clear boundaries here.

Recall the Matty Johns incident when the New Zealand woman claimed to have been gang-banged in their hotel room?

Well, I defended them on this one.

I think this young girl is quite disrupted, and truly believe they took advantage of this fact.
If we let this one go...then pretty soon, we'll be seeing more pregnant teens and victims of abuse.

Also, we are telling 'younger' victims not to bother coming forward because you will get the same treatment as Duthie, and treated like a trollop.


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Reply #2079 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:08am
 
mellie wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 5:00pm:
Kimberley Duthie (The St Kilda Schoolgirl) was an emerging athlete finalist 2009/2010.

According to.....

http://www.frankston.vic.gov.au/Tenders_Public_Notices_News/Media_Releases/2010_...


Where is she now?

This is why it's not fair, and why good people need to get behind her.

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Reply #2080 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:10am
 
Had a member of the general public been convicted of the same violent rapes, (he was convicted of raping two woman btw).. they would have done time.

Bit like OJ Simpson.

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When asked about a 'Saints Torn Apart' newspaper article, Montagna said: "As a playing group, if anything it's united us and made us stronger, and really sharpened our focus on our preparation for our football.

"We use these sorts of incidents as triggers to focus our preparation to play the best football we can."


http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/andrew-lovett-rape-case-saints-march-on-20...

If you asked a victim of rape if her experience of a violent rape had helped her focus and work more efficiently ...she'd probably slap you across the face.

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen  in court
Reply #2081 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:11am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:08am:
mellie wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 5:00pm:
Kimberley Duthie (The St Kilda Schoolgirl) was an emerging athlete finalist 2009/2010.

According to.....

http://www.frankston.vic.gov.au/Tenders_Public_Notices_News/Media_Releases/2010_...


Where is she now?

This is why it's not fair, and why good people need to get behind her.

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No it's not, I have already checked!

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Reply #2082 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:16am
 
Buzz, you have been wanting to have this thread closed since it started, getting a little desperate now aren't we?

Wink...

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Reply #2083 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:20am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 5:05am:
There's no point in re-posting those links every 2nd post mellie

While I agree with the first one about Demetriou abusing the people passing on the viral email, it's STILL almost a year old..

And the 2nd one has no bearing on the case at hand anyway..




gizmo I would think if anything has gone viral its this thread..

head banging must run in your family...lol..
theres an old saying somewhere "if you repeat something often enough" I cant remember the rest..and I dont think it would matter here anyway.. its a runaway trainwreck from what I can see.
I have heard of people having their say but this is ridiculous.

I looked at the pictures of the lass when she was pregnant yesterday, I find it really hard to believe someone would do something like that, whilst at the same time claiming to be traumatised. there is no excuse for it.. just blatent attention seeking.. just my opinion..

I havent heard any rumours.. or got any links to that.. but why else would you do that. after losing two babies?..

my daughter  had a misscarriage last year and still finds it hard talking about it.

I know it takes all kinds..but you dont need to prove you were pregnant in this day and age. no one loses two babies alone they do keep records..and an examination is all it takes.if the courts disputed it...what proof she has who the father was I dont know..but I am sure its on a link somewhere.

for the record giz.. I still think this lass was treated shockingly by a big powerful company..why they chose to act the way they did may come out at some stage. I am sure in hindsight they would have done it differently,

so far we only seem to be getting her version of what went on, and is going on.and after my experiance. I am wary of that, I am sure she fantasized about her life, she said she enjoyed him spending money on her..why wouldnt she? however she expected more

!! now I am almost sure she doesnt really know whats fact and whats fiction.. I get a bit sick thinking about whats ahead of her.. shes tough whilst the spotlight is on her.but when that fades, when she doesnt have police escorts. when the media loses interest.the so called friends melt away..thats when reality will hit her full bore.

my grandaughter is now living her reality..a baby 2 months old.. homeless.and in an on again off again relationships with the father who is an alcoholic.at 21.father of two, comes from a family of alcoholics and ratbags.he too has a safety net he moves in and out with a sister, who feels responsible for him..its too easy.let someone else do the worrying and caring.I call it sad.
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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen  in court
Reply #2084 - Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:21am
 
mellie wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:11am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 13th, 2011 at 6:08am:
mellie wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 5:00pm:
Kimberley Duthie (The St Kilda Schoolgirl) was an emerging athlete finalist 2009/2010.

According to.....

http://www.frankston.vic.gov.au/Tenders_Public_Notices_News/Media_Releases/2010_...


Where is she now?

This is why it's not fair, and why good people need to get behind her.

Smiley






The publication of this minor's identity (scattered throughout this thread) is in contempt of court

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No it's not, I have already checked!

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An ACTIVE court order exists on media publication of her NAME and/or IMAGE






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