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Reply #2145 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 1:45pm

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 12:30pm:

The fact of the matter is, the AFL, the clubs own premier legends, and the girl herself all agree she was mistreated... this and that they mismanaged the entire tragic affair from woe to go...end of story.

You really need to build a bridge and walk over it, because you know somethings not quite right upstairs, when even they admit to their own failings, yet you, the thick-skulls still sit here insisting otherwise.

Talk about your neurotic fans....did you defend OJ Simpson too?

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Look, this is what AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said....

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-blasts-st-kilda-schoolgir...

And then...

"Leave the girl alone, AFL legends tell Saints"

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/leave-the-girl-alone-legends-tell-saints/story-e6f...

What's wrong with you people, here we have them admitting to having screwed up, yet you cant sniff past the wall of frenzy which continue to make headlines for damage control purposes only.

The girl, the AFL and the Saints legends all agree she has been mistreated and the situation managed appallingly....what more do you want?

Video footage of the girl losing the twins in Sam Gilberts bathtub?

Twits!

Roll Eyes

Yet still no apology from either the AFL or St Kilda FC....

And why?

Because they are flat broke and terrified they may have to award her damages.

So better to berate and degrade a teenager with a wall of chequebook-journalism (courtesy of 'the Age' paper aka St Kildas sponsors) and pepper the media with the same old paraphrased story of how she the naughty little girl admits to doing some very naughty little things, than balance the 'FACTS' and re-evaluate what it was they did for her to want to take matters into her own hands to begin with, before she put the pics up on her facebook, pics she should never have laid eyes on to begin with, and wouldn't have if these "Saints" hadn't been rooting kids after school.

St Kilda are broke!

You have all been sucked into a media vortex, so much for your ability to nose out the truth, this or even want to weigh up both sides of the story yourselves.

What are you, smacking impaired?

Possibly the biggest media trump of the decade, and most of you missed it...didn't even bat an eye...

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ha ha hardy ha ha.. it would almost be hilarious, if the outcome weren't so tragic.

I second this.. Wink

It doesn't matter what the girl has said or done, she could do and say the most ridiculous things, ... the fact of the matter is, that the AFL, St Kildas own premier legends, and the girl herself all agree on 2 things, that she was mistreated, and the whole saga was managed appallingly.

Sorry, but no matter how hard you try, or how many trite links you post, links we have all seen before anyway, over and over again... ..... it all comes down to the fact that they all agree on these two things, if nothing else, meaning, they are liable for damages.

Cool

St Kilda know this, hence they have gone so far as to appoint new 'female' management with legal expertise to their ranks, to deal with this slack-jawed clubs off-field misconduct.

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #2146 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 1:54pm

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 12:30pm:

The fact of the matter is, the AFL, the clubs own premier legends, and the girl herself all agree she was mistreated... this and that they mismanaged the entire tragic affair from woe to go...end of story.

You really need to build a bridge and walk over it, because you know somethings not quite right upstairs, when even they admit to their own failings, yet you, the thick-skulls still sit here insisting otherwise.

Talk about your neurotic fans....did you defend OJ Simpson too?

Grin

Look, this is what AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said....

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-blasts-st-kilda-schoolgir...

And then...

"Leave the girl alone, AFL legends tell Saints"

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/leave-the-girl-alone-legends-tell-saints/story-e6f...

What's wrong with you people, here we have them admitting to having screwed up, yet you cant sniff past the wall of frenzy which continue to make headlines for damage control purposes only.

The girl, the AFL and the Saints legends all agree she has been mistreated and the situation managed appallingly....what more do you want?

Video footage of the girl losing the twins in Sam Gilberts bathtub?

Twits!

Roll Eyes

Yet still no apology from either the AFL or St Kilda FC....

And why?

Because they are flat broke and terrified they may have to award her damages.

So better to berate and degrade a teenager with a wall of chequebook-journalism (courtesy of 'the Age' paper aka St Kildas sponsors) and pepper the media with the same old paraphrased story of how she the naughty little girl admits to doing some very naughty little things, than balance the 'FACTS' and re-evaluate what it was they did for her to want to take matters into her own hands to begin with, before she put the pics up on her facebook, pics she should never have laid eyes on to begin with, and wouldn't have if these "Saints" hadn't been rooting kids after school.

St Kilda are broke!

You have all been sucked into a media vortex, so much for your ability to nose out the truth, this or even want to weigh up both sides of the story yourselves.

What are you, smacking impaired?

Possibly the biggest media trump of the decade, and most of you missed it...didn't even bat an eye...

Grin

ha ha hardy ha ha.. it would almost be hilarious, if the outcome weren't so tragic.

I second this.. Wink

It doesn't matter what the girl has said or done, she could do and say the most ridiculous things, ... the fact of the matter is, that the AFL, St Kildas own premier legends, and the girl herself all agree on 2 things, that she was mistreated, and the whole saga was managed appallingly.

Sorry, but no matter how hard you try, or how many trite links you post, links we have all seen before anyway, over and over again... ..... it all comes down to the fact that they all agree on these two things, if nothing else, meaning, they are liable for damages.

Cool

St Kilda know this, hence they have gone so far as to appoint new 'female' management with legal expertise to their ranks, to deal with this slack-jawed clubs off-field misconduct.

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #2147 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 2:08pm

It doesn't matter what the girl has said or done, she could do and say the most ridiculous things, ... the fact of the matter is, that the AFL, St Kildas own premier legends, and the girl herself all agree on 2 things, that she was mistreated, and the whole saga was managed appallingly.

Sorry, but no matter how hard you try, or how many trite links you post, links we have all seen before anyway, over and over again... ..... it all comes down to the fact that they all agree on these two things, if nothing else, meaning, they are liable for damages.

St Kilda know this, hence they have gone so far as to appoint new 'female' management with legal expertise to their ranks, to deal with this slack-jawed clubs off-field misconduct.

xxxx

lol two legends [ in their own minds] could not have cared less about this girl.. they were worried about their club and the AFL.. simple really..they have been around long enough to know this isnt the first time.. and not just for this club..and wont be the last.. they too were one of the "boys" at one stage and think its okay as long as you dont get caught... thats the crime. in this case someone got pregnant like I have said before how she can prove it was Gilberts I dont know..maybe he did put his hand up. but what exactly do you want the club to do.. she said all she ever wanted was an apology... from whom and for what???

she may very well have been badly treated.. but even you have to admit she doesnt seem to be falling apart because of it.

St Kilda have an image and they have to protect it. its only natural and I think its a shame this young woman doesnt think like they do.. and look after an image!!! well she did have one at one stage.. now its pretty shabby

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #2148 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 3:50pm

The fact of the matter is, the AFL, the St kilda premier 'greats' and the girl herself all agree, that she has been mistreated, this and the entire case was poorly managed, this and has again, resulted in St Kilda disgracing headlines and embarrassing themselves.

They are a pack of goofs, the girl will be awarded damages accordingly. One way or another...

They stuffed up.

Were cut down by a schoolgirl they underestimated and really shouldn't have.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court Reply #2149 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 3:57pm The fact of the matter is that St Kilda have agreed to go to mediation with her. That makes me very sure that she has something very substantial on them. They will be talking hush money. Will she take it, or will she not?
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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #2150 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:00pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

The fact of the matter is that St Kilda have agreed to go to mediation with her. That makes me very sure that she has something very substantial on them. They will be talking hush money. Will she take it, or will she not?

Yep...she certainly does, without a doubt.

They called her bluff, they probably shouldn't have.

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #2151 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:07pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

I believe 'anything' she says.
She is still a kid (yep- 18/19 year olds are still "kids")
She makes mistakes easily upon her own steam, like most people do when little, none or 'bad' guidance is around.

She's been knocked-up by people who should know better.
She's been knocked-up by people who won't take responsibility for their actions.
She's been knocked-up by people who can more than afford to 'care' for her future (they obviously have plenty of money to drink alcohol and do drugs).
She's been knocked up by people who aren't prepared to admit that under the above mentioned - its RAPE.

I hope she keeps stitrring the Media broth, cuz its the only way to get justice for her future, although there are many in the Media who are 'pro-St Kilda', etc.

Australian Sportspeople are getting an ever-growing 'bad' reputation around the world.
I dissassociate myself to the so-called "Sporting Australia" at any opportunity.
Grubs, Thugs & Cheats.
Angry

Just a qucik hint Jasign....Pregnancy does NOT make it rape...

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Reply #2152 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:07pm

<<St Kilda know this, hence they have gone so far as to appoint new 'female' management with legal expertise to their ranks, to deal with this slack-jawed clubs off-field misconduct. >>
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Is she their 'house mum'? they've done this with rugby league teams before, she's supposed to add the soft touch, someone who can pop up and proclaim that she's been treated with the utmost respect by these lovely young men. She'll be the media mouth-piece , the female presence at their sex education classes, always with the smiling guys behind her to prove that they can be in the same room with a woman and keep their pants on.

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court Reply #2153 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:11pm Well, I say good luck to her, she deserves no less that 5 mil. She could get this selling her vodeos to the right buyer alone...Rupert Murdoch would buy them... he loves rare collectables, and AFL memorabilia.
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Reply #2154 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:12pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

The fact of the matter is that St Kilda have agreed to go to mediation with her. That makes me very sure that she has something very substantial on them. They will be talking hush money. Will she take it, or will she not?

WILL she go this time though???

As far as i know, St Kilda have offered both mediation AND counselling to her at least 5 times since this started...

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Reply #2155 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:15pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:07pm:

<<St Kilda know this, hence they have gone so far as to appoint new 'female' management with legal expertise to their ranks, to deal with this slack-jawed clubs off-field misconduct. >>
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Is she their 'house mum'? they've done this with rugby league teams before, she's supposed to add the soft touch, someone who can pop up and proclaim that she's been treated with the utmost respect by these lovely young men. She'll be the media mouth-piece , the female presence at their sex education classes, always with the smiling guys behind her to prove that they can be in the same room with a woman and keep their pants on.

No, I have already warned Kim about who and what she is....refer back a few pages, I wrote something about her. I dare say, Kims own legal team would have prepared her anyway...but I just had to make sure. You never know with legal aid.

Mary Poppins.

Under new Nannygement ...she is who they will try to use to negotiate with her. She was an AFL lawyer... her family have made a living out of 'managing' the AFL's dirt files.

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Reply #2156 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:16pm

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 1:45pm:

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 1:21pm:

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 12:30pm:

The fact of the matter is, the AFL, the clubs own premier legends, and the girl herself all agree she was mistreated... this and that they mismanaged the entire tragic affair from woe to go...end of story.

You really need to build a bridge and walk over it, because you know somethings not quite right upstairs, when even they admit to their own failings, yet you, the thick-skulls still sit here insisting otherwise.

Talk about your neurotic fans....did you defend OJ Simpson too?

Grin

Look, this is what AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou said....

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/afl/afl-news/demetriou-blasts-st-kilda-schoolgir...

And then...

"Leave the girl alone, AFL legends tell Saints"

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/leave-the-girl-alone-legends-tell-saints/story-e6f...

What's wrong with you people, here we have them admitting to having screwed up, yet you cant sniff past the wall of frenzy which continue to make headlines for damage control purposes only.

The girl, the AFL and the Saints legends all agree she has been mistreated and the situation managed appallingly....what more do you want?

Video footage of the girl losing the twins in Sam Gilberts bathtub?

Twits!

Roll Eyes

Yet still no apology from either the AFL or St Kilda FC....

And why?

Because they are flat broke and terrified they may have to award her damages.

So better to berate and degrade a teenager with a wall of chequebook-journalism (courtesy of 'the Age' paper aka St Kildas sponsors) and pepper the media with the same old paraphrased story of how she the naughty little girl admits to doing some very naughty little things, than balance the 'FACTS' and re-evaluate what it was they did for her to want to take matters into her own hands to begin with, before she put the pics up on her facebook, pics she should never have laid eyes on to begin with, and wouldn't have if these "Saints" hadn't been rooting kids after school.

St Kilda are broke!

You have all been sucked into a media vortex, so much for your ability to nose out the truth, this or even want to weigh up both sides of the story yourselves.

What are you, smacking impaired?

Possibly the biggest media trump of the decade, and most of you missed it...didn't even bat an eye...

Grin

ha ha hardy ha ha.. it would almost be hilarious, if the outcome weren't so tragic.

I second this.. Wink

It doesn't matter what the girl has said or done, she could do and say the most ridiculous things, ... the fact of the matter is, that the AFL, St Kildas own premier legends, and the girl herself all agree on 2 things, that she was mistreated, and the whole saga was managed appallingly.

Sorry, but no matter how hard you try, or how many trite links you post, links we have all seen before anyway, over and over again... ..... it all comes down to the fact that they all agree on these two things, if nothing else, meaning, they are liable for damages.
Cool

St Kilda know this, hence they have gone so far as to appoint new 'female' management with legal expertise to their ranks, to deal with this slack-jawed clubs off-field misconduct.

Ummm NO they're NOT liable for damages.....'Treated badly' isn't a criminal offence....neither is 'dumped'...
At most, had she actually had the babies, and one of the players was proven to be the father...He 'would' have been liable for child support, but since the paternity test never took place.....

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Reply #2157 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:16pm

mellie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:11pm:

Well, I say good luck to her, she deserves no less that 5 mil.

She could get this selling her vodeos to the right buyer alone...Rupert Murdoch would buy them... he loves rare collectables, and AFL memorabilia.

Cool

5 Mill for a teenage groupie who got pregnant.

Well Gee, that result is bound to warn kids off being tarts isn't it?

forget applying yourself at school - root some footy players and you're set up for life. genius.

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Reply #2158 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:18pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:07pm:

<<St Kilda know this, hence they have gone so far as to appoint new 'female' management with legal expertise to their ranks, to deal with this slack-jawed clubs off-field misconduct. >>
.................................................................

Is she their 'house mum'? they've done this with rugby league teams before, she's supposed to add the soft touch, someone who can pop up and proclaim that she's been treated with the utmost respect by these lovely young men. She'll be the media mouth-piece , the female presence at their sex education classes, always with the smiling guys behind her to prove that they can be in the same room with a woman and keep their pants on.

'House mum' ...NO, trouble shooter...YES, someone better versed in damage control than the previous person...no big surprise, and certainly NO admission of guilt...

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #2159 - Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:34pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 4:12pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 3:57pm:

The fact of the matter is that St Kilda have agreed to go to mediation with her. That makes me very sure that she has something very substantial on them. They will be talking hush money. Will she take it, or will she not?

WILL she go this time though???

As far as i know, St Kilda have offered both mediation AND counselling to her at least 5 times since this started...

Mediation is "let's talk a deal", this is not about counselling. Would the Jews have gone to counsellors supplied by Hitler?

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