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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #495 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:37am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:33am:

And, really we must get this Shag Contract enforced especially the One Night Stand version, and highlighting the issue of whether the girl is using any contraception.
And, there must be a secondary mandatory question; are you lying about whether using any contraception.

FFS, as if contraception is the biggest health issue here!?

Why aren't you advocating for the lowest risk method of contraception and STI prevention - condoms - for all casual sex encounters, regardless of age or gender!?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 102845 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court Reply #496 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:38am Give up Anne. Yes the girl was a tart but those footy players took advantage of a young silly girl to get their ends in.
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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #497 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:41am

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

What I was trying to get at was: -

If it wasn't this girl, it would have doubtless been another one.

Why!?

Because these footballers obviously have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'!

I do not 'like' the girl. I do not 'trust' the girl. I find it difficult to feel empathy for the girl. But the fact remains that she is a child. A troubled child.

As for the professional adult footballers, it is about time that they took responsiblity for their own thoughts and actions - and stopped associating with minors!

The longer they go on demonising, vilifying and scapegoating this particular child, the worse this whole saga will become for them, their team, their code and football in general...

And, if it weren't the AFL players the girl would have gone after some other adult.
But then that'd be all right wouldn't it.
It wouldn'ty have made the headlines as the girl would have just had her one night stand and moved onto the next guy.

So you think that 'these AFL" footballers would "obviously" have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'.

Really? It's that obvious is it?
Not a bit prejudgemental are we?
Not being swayed by generalisations and stereotype images from the feminists are we?
And 'these' women have no say in having sex with the players now do they?
Guess 'these' women aren't willing participants are they?
Guess 'these' women are never trophy hunters are they?
guess 'these' women are the only people who have thoughts and feelings aren't they?
Guess 'these' women are going to adult venues to meet Mr Right aren't they?
Guess these women all have altruistic values and motives, so we should see them all in the philanthropy stakes now won't we?
Guess these women never get drunk and if by some rare occassion that they did then that's excusable or you'd be more comforatble laying that blame onto a man as well wouldn't you?

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #498 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:43am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:38am:

Give up Anne.
Yes the girl was a tart but those footy players took advantage
of a young silly girl to get their ends in.

And the girl took advantage of the guys as well didn't she. As afterall trophy hunters do do that.

And then falling back on the dills who believe that all girls are church going butterfly collecting bookworms.

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court Reply #499 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:47am Quick poll: Do women/girls ever lie? Because according to some people on this board only men lie.
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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #500 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:47am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:41am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

What I was trying to get at was: -

If it wasn't this girl, it would have doubtless been another one.

Why!?

Because these footballers obviously have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'!

I do not 'like' the girl. I do not 'trust' the girl. I find it difficult to feel empathy for the girl. But the fact remains that she is a child. A troubled child.

As for the professional adult footballers, it is about time that they took responsiblity for their own thoughts and actions - and stopped associating with minors!

The longer they go on demonising, vilifying and scapegoating this particular child, the worse this whole saga will become for them, their team, their code and football in general...

And, if it weren't the AFL players the girl would have gone after some other adult.
But then that'd be all right wouldn't it.
It wouldn'ty have made the headlines as the girl would have just had her one night stand and moved onto the next guy.

So you think that 'these AFL" footballers would "obviously" have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'.

Really? It's that obvious is it?
Not a bit prejudgemental are we?
Not being swayed by generalisations and stereotype images from the feminists are we?
And 'these' women have no say in having sex with the players now do they?
Guess 'these' women aren't willing participants are they?
Guess 'these' women are never trophy hunters are they?
guess 'these' women are the only people who have thoughts and feelings aren't they?
Guess 'these' women are going to adult venues to meet Mr Right aren't they?
Guess these women all have altruistic values and motives, so we should see them all in the philanthropy stakes now won't we?
Guess these women never get drunk and if by some rare occassion that they did then that's excusable or you'd be more comforatble laying that blame onto a man as well wouldn't you?

What if news comes out that these footballers did something similar with one or more other girl/s from another school!?

Would you be prepared to apportion some responsibility to these professional adult males then!?

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #501 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:51am

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:47am:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:41am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

What I was trying to get at was: -

If it wasn't this girl, it would have doubtless been another one.

Why!?

Because these footballers obviously have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'!

I do not 'like' the girl. I do not 'trust' the girl. I find it difficult to feel empathy for the girl. But the fact remains that she is a child. A troubled child.

As for the professional adult footballers, it is about time that they took responsiblity for their own thoughts and actions - and stopped associating with minors!

The longer they go on demonising, vilifying and scapegoating this particular child, the worse this whole saga will become for them, their team, their code and football in general...

And, if it weren't the AFL players the girl would have gone after some other adult.
But then that'd be all right wouldn't it.
It wouldn'ty have made the headlines as the girl would have just had her one night stand and moved onto the next guy.

So you think that 'these AFL" footballers would "obviously" have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'.

Really? It's that obvious is it?
Not a bit prejudgemental are we?
Not being swayed by generalisations and stereotype images from the feminists are we?
And 'these' women have no say in having sex with the players now do they?
Guess 'these' women aren't willing participants are they?
Guess 'these' women are never trophy hunters are they?
guess 'these' women are the only people who have thoughts and feelings aren't they?
Guess 'these' women are going to adult venues to meet Mr Right aren't they?
Guess these women all have altruistic values and motives, so we should see them all in the philanthropy stakes now won't we?
Guess these women never get drunk and if by some rare occassion that they did then that's excusable or you'd be more comforatble laying that blame onto a man as well wouldn't you?

What if news comes out that these footballers did something similar with one or more other girl/s from another school!?

Would you be prepared to apportion some responsibility to these professional adult males then!?

And, what if this Duthie girl did something similiar to other AFL players, or even other people?
Would you be prepared to apportion (some) responsiblity to this 'professional' actress? As afterall she is going to be paid for "Her story".
Why are people wanting to put Duthie's responsibilty & actions onto other people.
Duthie willing did these things!

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #502 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:52am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:38am:

Give up Anne.
Yes the girl was a tart but those footy players took advantage
of a young silly girl to get their ends in.

And the girl took advantage of the guys as well didn't she. As afterall trophy hunters do do that.

And then falling back on the dills who believe that all girls are church going butterfly collecting bookworms.

Anne - you are missing the point.
At her age she was not legally able to give consent.
Do you need a lawyer to explain it to you?

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #503 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:56am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:38am:

Give up Anne.
Yes the girl was a tart but those footy players took advantage
of a young silly girl to get their ends in.

And the girl took advantage of the guys as well didn't she. As afterall trophy hunters do do that.

And then falling back on the dills who believe that all girls are church going butterfly collecting bookworms.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:47am:

Quick poll: Do women/girls ever lie?

Because according to some people on this board only men lie.

FFS, Macca, you are once again taking this to extremes...

If you check back through this mammoth thread, you will be hard-pressed to find anyone who trusts or even likes the girl's media persona...

However, people are right to demand responsible and respectful adult conduct from highly-paid professionals who are in a position of community trust...

All football codes have well-defined codes of professional conduct - which have necessarily been expanded to include guidelines for demonstrating respect for women - and it is clear that these footballers have breached their code...

Unless and until these footballers - and their peers, their superiors and their followers - admit that they have breached the community's trust, then they will continue to be held in contempt...

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #504 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 11:02am

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:51am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:47am:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:41am:

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

What I was trying to get at was: -

If it wasn't this girl, it would have doubtless been another one.

Why!?

Because these footballers obviously have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'!

I do not 'like' the girl. I do not 'trust' the girl. I find it difficult to feel empathy for the girl. But the fact remains that she is a child. A troubled child.

As for the professional adult footballers, it is about time that they took responsiblity for their own thoughts and actions - and stopped associating with minors!

The longer they go on demonising, vilifying and scapegoating this particular child, the worse this whole saga will become for them, their team, their code and football in general...

And, if it weren't the AFL players the girl would have gone after some other adult.
But then that'd be all right wouldn't it.
It wouldn'ty have made the headlines as the girl would have just had her one night stand and moved onto the next guy.

So you think that 'these AFL" footballers would "obviously" have a propensity to engage in the exploitation of young vulnerable 'women'.

Really? It's that obvious is it?
Not a bit prejudgemental are we?
Not being swayed by generalisations and stereotype images from the feminists are we?
And 'these' women have no say in having sex with the players now do they?
Guess 'these' women aren't willing participants are they?
Guess 'these' women are never trophy hunters are they?
guess 'these' women are the only people who have thoughts and feelings aren't they?
Guess 'these' women are going to adult venues to meet Mr Right aren't they?
Guess these women all have altruistic values and motives, so we should see them all in the philanthropy stakes now won't we?
Guess these women never get drunk and if by some rare occassion that they did then that's excusable or you'd be more comforatble laying that blame onto a man as well wouldn't you?

What if news comes out that these footballers did something similar with one or more other girl/s from another school!?

Would you be prepared to apportion some responsibility to these professional adult males then!?

And, what if this Duthie girl did something similiar to other AFL players, or even other people?
Would you be prepared to apportion (some) responsiblity to this 'professional' actress? As afterall she is going to be paid for "Her story".
Why are people wanting to put Duthie's responsibilty & actions onto other people.
Duthie willing did these things!

FFS, do you have comprehension issues, or what!?

I repeat: -

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:31am:

Quote:

For what it's worth: -

I find the girl's conduct totally cringeworthy - she is not the sort of girl I would like my sons to associate with - but I believe her actions stem from pre-existing immaturity, low self-esteem and mental health issues...

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I do not 'like' the girl. I do not 'trust' the girl. I find it difficult to feel empathy for the girl. But the fact remains that she is a child. A troubled child.

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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #505 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 11:02am

Equitist wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:56am:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:38am:

Give up Anne.
Yes the girl was a tart but those footy players took advantage
of a young silly girl to get their ends in.

And the girl took advantage of the guys as well didn't she. As afterall trophy hunters do do that.

And then falling back on the dills who believe that all girls are church going butterfly collecting bookworms.

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:47am:

Quick poll: Do women/girls ever lie?

Because according to some people on this board only men lie.

FFS, Macca, you are once again taking this to extremes...

If you check back through this mammoth thread, you will be hard-pressed to find anyone who trusts or even likes the girl's media persona...

However, people are right to demand responsible and respectful adult conduct from highly-paid professionals who are in a position of community trust...

All football codes have well-defined codes of professional conduct - which have necessarily been expanded to include guidelines for demonstrating respect for women - and it is clear that these footballers have breached their code...

Unless and until these footballers - and their peers, their superiors and their followers - admit that they have breached the community's trust, then they will continue to be held in contempt...

And you're not taking things to extreme?
Why is it that you can hypothesise about AFL players, and yet you can't also hypothesise about Duthie?
As afterall the parents themselves are quite familiar to her actions.
Is that what you're afraid of?

Remember, it takes two to tango.

The girl is a trophy hunter, an attention seeking media strumpet.
There is no exuse for her actions.
Duthie willing went to adult venues to get a sex trophy.
We all know that in order to gain access to the adult venues that Duthie has been lying about her age and that she wanted to be seen as an adult.
Then when she gets to play with the big boys at the time she had no complaint.
It was only when she was treated as an adult after a one night stand she complains. Duthie wanted to retain her trophy for bragging rights.

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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court Reply #507 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 11:07am Has any crime been committed? Or, is it just a girl have a hissy fit because she saw more in the relationship of a one night stand than was actually there. Maybe this will help her: http://www.been-dumped.com/Moving-On-After-Being-Dumped.php
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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court Reply #508 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 11:11am See what civil action happens.
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Re: Immature vengeful St Kilda teen in court
Reply #509 - Dec 27^th, 2010 at 12:25pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 27^th, 2010 at 10:37am:

Its the same old excuses pedophiles and rapists use..she/or the child was flirting with me, they were dressed and acted provocatively, they knew what they were after so I/ my group of mates, gave it to them..so why should I/we be responsible for mine/our actions?
A few months earlier and these men would have been in jail for child rape so that should tell us all something about the predatory way they view children and young teenagers.
As for St Kilda and the AFL..they have flushed any credibilty they may have had down the toilet when it comes to respect for vunerable children, teenagers and the mental health issues many of them face.

"Pedophiles and rapists", too creepy! What about liars and slime balls like yourself?

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