So our government helps hit squads to slaughter Afghans who just don't like being invaded and occupied, and then our so called 'ally' there releases half of those captured anyway. So we earn the ire of the Afghans for what? Because the Yanks told us to... Pretty smart move...

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AFP aids Afghan hit squads

AUSTRALIAN police in Afghanistan have helped compile secret intelligence files on insurgent leaders later targeted in capture-or-kill missions by special forces soldiers.

The Pentagon has confirmed that Australian Federal Police officers are ''assigned to work with'' a joint police taskforce in Kabul that produces files later used by military commanders to ''shape the battlefield'' - a term often used to describe the capture-or-kill raids mounted by elite troops in Afghanistan.

While Australian police are officially not allowed to contribute intelligence for military purposes, in reality they have little control over who uses the information they help compile once it is shared with the Afghan government and other forces.
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Cables released by WikiLeaks show how the joint police effort in Kabul has been hampered by a lack of staff. A request from the US embassy in October last year said more officers were needed to help others working in the Afghan Threat Finance Cell in Kabul under the joint command of the Afghan government and NATO.

One cable says the group ''urgently requires access to translators [for] an increasing amount of wire-intercept information including complex technical and financial records'' as the police target halawas - the informal money networks that far outnumber proper banks and are often used by drug traffickers.

The last AFP officer stopped working directly with the Threat Finance Cell in April, but officers still work with the broader police effort called the Counter Narcotics Joint Inter-Agency Task Force, and their intelligence is shared with Afghan police and other agencies.

There has been a rise in capture-or-kill missions aimed at insurgents, with as many as 17 raids each night across Afghanistan by special forces teams from the US, Britain, Australia and other countries.

The soldiers work from a secret hit list - a centralised military database that includes information from police intelligence. US military officers have previously confirmed that some of those targeted include Afghans involved in narcotics who have strong links to the insurgency. One general told a US Senate committee that the aim was to ''persuade them to choose legitimacy or [we] remove them from the battlefield''.

In response to questions from The Age, the AFP said its officers were assisting the Afghan police in identifying drug traffickers and encouraging their prosecution through the local justice system. But because the Afghan justice system is corrupt and crippled by a lack of resources, the international effort is increasingly relying on the military's capture-or-kill missions, Australian officials have told The Age.

An AFP statement concedes the Afghan suspects it helps to identify ''may coincidentally include Taliban leaders''. The statement also says the AFP cannot comment on ''the dissemination … and the processing of military data … [or] the activities of other agencies'' involved in the Threat Finance Cell.

The US Senate foreign relations committee was told the military and police were ''seizing ledgers and other information to develop an intelligence profile of the networks and the drug kingpins''.

The targeting of insurgent leaders is weakened by the Afghan government's willingness to release those captured by the military. Since last July the Afghan government has sought the release of a record number of inmates before they were put on trial - as many as 700 suspected Taliban fighters and mid-level leaders - and at least 500 have been freed.

Another 2009 US State Department cable, released by WikiLeaks, says the US pressed the Afghan government to stop releasing drug suspects.

''On numerous occasions we have emphasised with [the Afghan] Attorney-General Aloko the need to end interventions by him and President Karzai, who both authorise the release of detainees pre-trial and allow dangerous individuals to go free or re-enter the battlefield,'' it says.

Source: The Age

The object of war is to kill the enemy.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 2:25pm:


The current government was elected by the people...so YES it is legitimate..

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The current government has been exposed as a mass election defrauder.

Also keep in mind very few Afghans even voted, since most reject the very legitimacy of the elections all together.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 3:06pm:


That was only in the areas held by the Taliban Abu where voting was almost non existant.
It's amazing what an AK47 gun barrel in ones left ear will do for ones voting asperations Abu.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 2:45pm:




gizmo,
You are expressing a naive notion here, from the perspective of a Western person.

An elected government can never, never, ever, be legitimate, in the eyes of a good moslem.


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Many people in the West [including Western bureaucrats and politicians, who know practically nothing about ISLAMIC 'politics'] assumed [mistakenly!] that most Iraqis would be pleased to be rid of the despot Sadam, and that they would then gladly [gratefully] embrace a democratic system of government.

Wrong!

Western bureaucrats and politicians have shown themselves to be ignorant and naive, in trying to foster democracy within societies which are dominated by ISLAM.

And the true attitude towards democracy, of the Jihadists [i.e. good moslems] has been 'eloquently' put, by those standing behind the Al Qaeda bombers of the Iraqi parliament...


April 14, 2007
The right to legislate belongs to God alone, and whoever disputes that is an apostate.
The members of parliament deserve only death [source, 'Al Qaeda in Iraq' ]
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/04/the-right-to-legislate-belongs-to-god-alone-an...


The 'The right to legislate belongs to God alone,...' article above, explains the mindset of all good [devout] moslems.
i.e. 'Democracy' is anathema to devout moslems.

Dictionary;
anathema = = something that one vehemently dislikes

"It is not the function of Islam to compromise with the concepts of Jahiliyya which are current in the world or to co-exist in the same land together with a jahili system...."
SAYYID QUTB - moslem scholar.
http://www.islamworld.net/docs/justice.html

Jahiliyya = = Is referring to 'nominal' moslems who are living an un-ISLAMIC life-style, due to un-ISLAMIC influences acting upon them.
e.g.
The un-ISLAMIC societies, lifestyles, of the West.

To devout moslems the condition of Jahiliyya is seen as a disease, a corruption of the true moslem 'character'.
And those so called 'moslems' living Jahiliyya, are worthy of death!
i.e.
Moslems who accept democracy have corrupted themselves, they are apostates [non-moslems], and deserve death.
Because, in the eyes of Jihadists [good moslems], all who resist the sole influence of ISLAM upon their lives, i.e. all nominal 'moslems' living Jahiliyya , are the enemies of ISLAM, and Allah, and are worthy of death!


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Have i misrepresented anything here Abu?

Yadda,

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Muslims elected leaders over a millenium before the West even remotely considered the idea.

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This just doesn't sit well with the truth, ie. that the U.S were the ones who put the 'despot Sadam' into power in the first place, and supported and helped him all through his career, until he finally outlived his usefulness and became a liability. At which point he became a convenient excuse for them to slaughter and starve to death millions.

You are an apostle of falsehood, and you can no longer deny it to yourself.

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Contrary to your delusions formed from your sparse knowledge of history, the ancient Greeks did not elect leaders.

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I stated Muslims elected leaders, not non-Muslims elected leaders. Why would you now ask a question that completely contradicts the statement I made?

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Again, not part of my statement, so irrelevant. You are in fact now just proving my long-standing dispute with you over the real meaning of democracy fd, the best part, you don't even realise it.

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I never said anything about democracy. Islam completely rejects the nonsensical ideology of democracy.