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Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:14pm
 
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/religious-order-in-1m-will-battle/story-fn6bfm6...

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Religious order in $1m will battle

A CATHOLIC order of friars which has taken vows of poverty is embroiled in a $1 million legal stoush over a woman's bequest.

The woman's adult children were devastated to learn their migrant mother had left the bulk of her hard-earned fortune to a church.

The children were left $20,000 each, while a church their mother rarely attended got a $1 million windfall in the form of a house in North Fitzroy.

Neither of her grandsons, one of whom suffers from autism, developmental delay and hydrocephalus - fluid on the brain - were beneficiaries of the will.

Assuna Muto was a migrant success story. She was a mail-order bride from Italy who worked hard to provide for her children. She worked overtime in factories to raise her son and daughter after she separated from her husband.

Mrs Muto's family was shocked to discover she bequeathed the bulk of her estate to the Order of the Capuchin Franciscan Fathers and its church in Hawthorn.

They claim she had little to do with the Catholic Church and attended only three times a year - at Christmas, Easter and the feast day of St Anthony.

She left money to the church to care for orphans in Australia and overseas, but in court documents her daughter, Angela Kolandt, said: "I doubt that my mother would have any idea about orphans under the control of the Franciscan Fathers."

Mrs Kolandt and her brother, Giacomo Muto, have launched a Supreme Court action against the religious order, claiming their mother did not make "adequate provision" for them in her will.

The 82-year-old woman died last January and her will was granted probate in August with court documents showing she had a $1 million house in trendy North Fitzroy and almost $40,000 in cash.

Affidavits supporting the fight against the church show that Italian-born Mrs Muto married Eugenio Muto by proxy and migrated to Australia in 1948.

Mr Muto said in court documents that his parents separated in 1967 and his mother essentially raised the children and paid off a mortgage by working overtime in a factory.

"Our mother was always very frugal with money, she had to be, as she had the expenses and costs of maintaining her two children and paying off the mortgage," he said.

Mr Muto lived at home with his mother until he was 37 in 1986-1987 and moved out to a unit 7km away, while his sister lived 9km away so they could keep in close contact with her.

Both children visited their mother daily, maintained her house and cared for her as she became more frail, Mr Muto said.

They later took turns to stay with their mother overnight, so she was not left alone.

Mr Muto lives on an old-age pension and superannuation in a Preston West unit with his mother's German shepherd, Zeena.

Mrs Kolandt said in court documents that when her first son was born in 1997, she visited her mother with him daily, then when her second son was born in 2001 with disabilities, she still visited daily.

Mrs Kolandt is a full-time carer for her disabled son.

Mrs Muto's children declined to comment outside court, as did the law firm acting on behalf of the church.
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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:27pm
 
The moral of the story is to keep your folks away from churches because they will rob you and your folks out of their assets. Churches like old people particularly lonely old people with assets Wink

I wonder if the church will provide accommodation for their disabled son in the future ? Probably for a nominal fee of course Sad
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Reply #2 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:39pm
 
It's a worry, though what you have to ask is how much of what her kids are saying is true?

Are they suggesting she was coerced into signing it , ie, she wasn't in her right mind when she made her will?

Was it changed at some point, ie, was there time when her children stood to gain more from her will?

If she was of sound mind when she made her will, this and made a conscious decision not to leave her home to her children, grandchildren, then perhaps as these were their mothers wishes, they should respect them as unpalatable as they may seem.

A persons last will in testament is their final say in this world, and it should be respected unless of course these children feel she was not of sound mind,(and this can be substantiated) this or suspect foul play at the time she made her will.

Had she left her home to the RSPCA, would her children be reacting the same way?

Or another relative even?

Naturally, the woman is dead, and is unable to speak for herself, so it will be interesting to see how this case pans out, or whether or not the church just give it to them to save them the trouble.





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Reply #3 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:41pm
 
Perhaps the church can claim to have supplied value for money?
I mean, what price is a seat in the kingdom of god these days?
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Reply #4 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:42pm
 
The moral is to tell people what they will get before you die so they can come to terms with it and blame you instead of the other beneficiaries. This sort of squabbling can destroy families.
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Reply #5 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:45pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:41pm:
Perhaps the church can claim to have supplied value for money?
I mean, what price is a seat in the kingdom of god these days?


You mean a gold pass to heaven with no money back guarantees Wink LOL
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Reply #6 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:47pm
 
Mellie, you need to read.  From the Article ^^^^^

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Mrs Kolandt and her brother, Giacomo Muto, have launched a Supreme Court action against the religious order, claiming their mother did not make "adequate provision" for them in her will.


That means there is no attack on the Mother's testamentary capacity, and no suggestion of other nasty stuff.

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Reply #7 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:49pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:42pm:
The moral is to tell people what they will get before you die so they can come to terms with it and blame you instead of the other beneficiaries. This sort of squabbling can destroy families.


Sometimes the elderly go a bit senile and are easy pray for scammers and parasites Sad It's very hard to know who has got at your parents before they have gone Sad You only find out after the funeral when some maggot that didn't know your parents from a bar of soap gets left everything Sad The churches pray on the elderly and take advantage of them. They know they are rich pickings Sad
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Reply #8 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:53pm
 
Or maybe she thought it was her children who were the parasites.

Just because a person is old does not mean they can't think for themselves.
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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #9 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:53pm
 
A persons last will in testament is their final say in this world, and it should be respected unless of course these children feel she was not of sound mind,(and this can be substantiated) this or suspect foul play at the time she made her will.

Times are bad when even your last will and testament isn't worth the paper it's written on...  if it turns out this old woman was of sound mind, this and made a conscious decision not to leave her home to her children, irrespective of her reasons this has to be respected.

She could have left it to the dog-poop federation and my opinion would be the same.

If it can be proven she was going a little funny towards the end, this and changed her will at a time she had began losing her faculties, (had began dementing) then fair enough, perhaps they 'MAY' have a case, but otherwise...I cant see much point robbing or sending letters of demand to the dead.

Ps, who doesn't have an autistic child in their family these days.

Why should their personal circumstances make them more entitled to property which doesn't belong to them?

Roll Eyes It sounds like they are trying to make excuses for why they believe they are entitled their mums deceased estate.

Perhaps they were a pack of A-holes, this or she thought they would squander it.

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Reply #10 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:54pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:47pm:
Mellie, you need to read.  From the Article ^^^^^

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Mrs Kolandt and her brother, Giacomo Muto, have launched a Supreme Court action against the religious order, claiming their mother did not make "adequate provision" for them in her will.


That means there is no attack on the Mother's testamentary capacity, and no suggestion of other nasty stuff.

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Yes it is an attack because it is saying the children didn't get left enough. This happens all of the time where the rightful beneficiaries get done out of everything Sad

What about when the grand children grow up, will they have the money to buy their own home or will they have to rent back from the church what should have been their own home Sad It really sucks but the corrupt church institutions have been hoarding and dealing in real estate for thousands of years. They are biggest real estate holders in the world Sad
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Reply #11 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:56pm
 
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This happens all of the time where the rightful beneficiaries get done out of everything


Who are you to say who the 'rightful' beneficiaries are? This is where all the problems start, when people think they 'deserve' something they didn't earn. It was her money. It is her choice what happens to it.
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:42pm:
The moral is to tell people what they will get before you die so they can come to terms with it and blame you instead of the other beneficiaries. This sort of squabbling can destroy families.


Good point!

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Reply #13 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 10:21pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 10th, 2011 at 9:53pm:
Or maybe she thought it was her children who were the parasites.

Just because a person is old does not mean they can't think for themselves.


So are you saying that a disabled child should be looked on as a parasite of some sort and some rich Catholic church institution plastered with gold leaf and promising fake gold passes to heaven shouldn't be ?
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Reply #14 - Jan 10th, 2011 at 10:25pm
 
Do you  make it a habit of mis-representing what others Post?
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