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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #75 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:25am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 9:14am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 9:06am:

This thread does absolutely nothing to support the accusations made in this neurotic title. This type of garbage lowers the tone of the message board.

Its a TOENAIL thread... what did u expect? facts???

of course to a couple of deadbeat libbos it is more important for a corrupt religious institution or corporation to feather its nest and make it bigger whilst the little guy on the street goes without as usual Sad

and of course, it is of no interest to you to actually give FACTS!

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #76 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:30am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:42am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:06am:

mozzaok wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

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Equally dispicable, is to make accusations without basis, motivated by no higher urge, than the self gratification of feeding one`s bigotry.

For any system/approach of/to justice to be realistic, the condemnation of false accusation must at least equal the condemnation of the act in question.

-AF2R

Interesting point, care to elaborate?

actually, it is a good point. FALSE accusation should be treated seriously and harshly. not perhaps as harsh as the false accusation but stil firmly enough to dissuade others.

Thanks LW. One point in case is this thread, nothing but a blather of gratuitous, unsupported, weak minded dribble, wasting everyone`s time. I would contend that any church would have more credability if they operated from basic accomodation and spent their worldly assets on doing good work. Regretably, an OP such as this isn`t a spring board for launching balanced discussion, it`s a frothing hate fest. Totally useless.

Actually, that is exactly what most churches DO do. most churches are not ostentatious places and most salries are quite basic. there are exceptions of course but in the main churches perform an admirable role in society.

what role ?? Spreading unsubstantiated drivel and brain washing young children with untruths !!

If you look at the welfare bill you will find the average tax payer does a hell of a lot more than any church can ever do.

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #77 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:34am

Some of you here are carrying on like the Church is some evil cult in which anyone who attends it is a gulliblle fool.

Like most things, there is a couple of rotten eggs, but from my personal experience, the Churches have only done good in our area.

Just some of the things they do;
visiting the elderly
feed the poor
help those who are victim to violence, house fires etc.
councilling services
the old cake stalls

From what Ive seen, they only do good. What they did to help others in my family after the shock loss of my mother was just unbelivable, and not once did they take or ask for a cent.

I only attend churches for weddings, funerals and christenings. I also mow the lawns of the church down the road from us, yet no one in the parish has a clue who I am, I dont know who they are and Ive never been there. I dont need to believe in God to know the good work they do.

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #78 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:53am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:30am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:42am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:06am:

mozzaok wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

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Equally dispicable, is to make accusations without basis, motivated by no higher urge, than the self gratification of feeding one`s bigotry.

For any system/approach of/to justice to be realistic, the condemnation of false accusation must at least equal the condemnation of the act in question.

-AF2R

Interesting point, care to elaborate?

actually, it is a good point. FALSE accusation should be treated seriously and harshly. not perhaps as harsh as the false accusation but stil firmly enough to dissuade others.

Thanks LW. One point in case is this thread, nothing but a blather of gratuitous, unsupported, weak minded dribble, wasting everyone`s time. I would contend that any church would have more credability if they operated from basic accomodation and spent their worldly assets on doing good work. Regretably, an OP such as this isn`t a spring board for launching balanced discussion, it`s a frothing hate fest. Totally useless.

Actually, that is exactly what most churches DO do. most churches are not ostentatious places and most salries are quite basic. there are exceptions of course but in the main churches perform an admirable role in society.

what role ?? Spreading unsubstantiated drivel and brain washing young children with untruths !!

If you look at the welfare bill you will find the average tax payer does a hell of a lot more than any church can ever do.

The govt doesnt do the hands-on or face-to-face social work as well as or as much as the church. and people like you do NEITHER yet want to claim kudos for paying taxes - despite the fact you dont pay any as u r onwelfare yourself.

Loser.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #79 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:54am

Verge wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

Some of you here are carrying on like the Church is some evil cult in which anyone who attends it is a gulliblle fool.

Like most things, there is a couple of rotten eggs, but from my personal experience, the Churches have only done good in our area.

Just some of the things they do;
visiting the elderly
feed the poor
help those who are victim to violence, house fires etc.
councilling services
the old cake stalls

From what Ive seen, they only do good. What they did to help others in my family after the shock loss of my mother was just unbelivable, and not once did they take or ask for a cent.

I only attend churches for weddings, funerals and christenings. I also mow the lawns of the church down the road from us, yet no one in the parish has a clue who I am, I dont know who they are and Ive never been there. I dont need to believe in God to know the good work they do.

Well said Verge. But perhaps you shoudl go in the door sometime

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #80 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 12:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:54am:

Verge wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

Some of you here are carrying on like the Church is some evil cult in which anyone who attends it is a gulliblle fool.

Like most things, there is a couple of rotten eggs, but from my personal experience, the Churches have only done good in our area.

Just some of the things they do;
visiting the elderly
feed the poor
help those who are victim to violence, house fires etc.
councilling services
the old cake stalls

From what Ive seen, they only do good. What they did to help others in my family after the shock loss of my mother was just unbelivable, and not once did they take or ask for a cent.

I only attend churches for weddings, funerals and christenings. I also mow the lawns of the church down the road from us, yet no one in the parish has a clue who I am, I dont know who they are and Ive never been there. I dont need to believe in God to know the good work they do.

Well said Verge. But perhaps you shoudl go in the door sometime

I always found actions speak greater volumes than words. Doing my bit without setting foot in the door gives me more pleasure than sitting on a pew for an hour.

Im not really relgious, but I do have a strong sense of community, and I like the work the local Churhes do in ours. The same way I extend a hand to the Lion and Apex clubs where I can.

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #81 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

The govt doesnt do the hands-on or face-to-face social work as well as or as much as the church. and people like you do NEITHER yet want to claim kudos for paying taxes - despite the fact you dont pay any as u r onwelfare yourself.

Loser.

Maybe you might like to explain to us how St Vinnies lost tens of millions of dollars because it was sitting in Lehmann Brothers bank trying to gain higher interest ?? Shouldn't this money have been dolled out to the needy and less fortunate in society rather than being lost in a collapsed bank ?? What was it doing sitting in a bank anyway ? They obviously haven't read their own bible which specifically states the following:-

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Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #82 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 12:29pm

Verge wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 12:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:54am:

Verge wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

Some of you here are carrying on like the Church is some evil cult in which anyone who attends it is a gulliblle fool.

Like most things, there is a couple of rotten eggs, but from my personal experience, the Churches have only done good in our area.

Just some of the things they do;
visiting the elderly
feed the poor
help those who are victim to violence, house fires etc.
councilling services
the old cake stalls

From what Ive seen, they only do good. What they did to help others in my family after the shock loss of my mother was just unbelivable, and not once did they take or ask for a cent.

I only attend churches for weddings, funerals and christenings. I also mow the lawns of the church down the road from us, yet no one in the parish has a clue who I am, I dont know who they are and Ive never been there. I dont need to believe in God to know the good work they do.

Well said Verge. But perhaps you shoudl go in the door sometime

I always found actions speak greater volumes than words. Doing my bit without setting foot in the door gives me more pleasure than sitting on a pew for an hour.

Im not really relgious, but I do have a strong sense of community, and I like the work the local Churhes do in ours. The same way I extend a hand to the Lion and Apex clubs where I can.

Look a bit deeper at how they actually work. After siphoning away their own living expenses and paying off their property purchases the rest of the crumbs get thrown at the poor and the needy !! Of course they make that part the central point of their existence but you don't get to see the rest of their expenses because none of it is published Sad

Anybody can do this. Give me your money and I will deduct my living expenses and throw whats left at the poor !! Big deal !!

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103233 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance Reply #83 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 1:18pm Nail. Quote: the rest of the crumbs get thrown at the poor and the needy Quite right Nail. They don't follow their own vows to live in poverty.
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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #84 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 2:01pm

Verge wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

Some of you here are carrying on like the Church is some evil cult in which anyone who attends it is a gulliblle fool.

Like most things, there is a couple of rotten eggs, but from my personal experience, the Churches have only done good in our area.

Just some of the things they do;
visiting the elderly
feed the poor
help those who are victim to violence, house fires etc.
councilling services
the old cake stalls

From what Ive seen, they only do good. What they did to help others in my family after the shock loss of my mother was just unbelivable, and not once did they take or ask for a cent.

I only attend churches for weddings, funerals and christenings. I also mow the lawns of the church down the road from us, yet no one in the parish has a clue who I am, I dont know who they are and Ive never been there. I dont need to believe in God to know the good work they do.

What about the pedophiles that get shuffled from one church parish to another ? I suppose because it's someone else's kid that has been effected then it's water off a ducks back eh Verge Wink

And you forgot the Inquisition and the persecution of great scientists like Galileo much like you libbos persecute climate change scientists today Sad

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #85 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 2:16pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:42am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:16am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 10:06am:

mozzaok wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

Quote:

Equally dispicable, is to make accusations without basis, motivated by no higher urge, than the self gratification of feeding one`s bigotry.

For any system/approach of/to justice to be realistic, the condemnation of false accusation must at least equal the condemnation of the act in question.

-AF2R

Interesting point, care to elaborate?

actually, it is a good point. FALSE accusation should be treated seriously and harshly. not perhaps as harsh as the false accusation but stil firmly enough to dissuade others.

Thanks LW. One point in case is this thread, nothing but a blather of gratuitous, unsupported, weak minded dribble, wasting everyone`s time. I would contend that any church would have more credability if they operated from basic accomodation and spent their worldly assets on doing good work. Regretably, an OP such as this isn`t a spring board for launching balanced discussion, it`s a frothing hate fest. Totally useless.

Actually, that is exactly what most churches DO do. most churches are not ostentatious places and most salries are quite basic. there are exceptions of course but in the main churches perform an admirable role in society.

Agreed that they do perform an admirable role in society, LW. There seems to be a wave of hysteria against western lifestyle, and religion. This is predominately among the most impressionable in our society. Wonder if we haven`t imported too many "Westerner haters"?

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance Reply #86 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 2:21pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 1:18pm: Nail. Quote: the rest of the crumbs get thrown at the poor and the needy Quite right Nail. They don't follow their own vows to live in poverty. What have either (if there are two) of you two dropouts ever done for anyone else?
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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #87 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 3:20pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:

Nail.
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the rest of the crumbs get thrown at the poor and the needy

Quite right Nail.
They don't follow their own vows to live in poverty.

What have either (if there are two) of you two dropouts ever done for anyone else?

As Nail & I are both wealthy - we pay monster taxes.
One week - just the GST from the work I did made the Government $12,000.
That's right! believe it or not!
That money is mostly paid to the poor in the form of Centerlink benefits.
I have done more than enough to guarantee my gold pass to heaven.

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Reply #88 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 3:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 2:01pm:

Verge wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

Some of you here are carrying on like the Church is some evil cult in which anyone who attends it is a gulliblle fool.

Like most things, there is a couple of rotten eggs, but from my personal experience, the Churches have only done good in our area.

Just some of the things they do;
visiting the elderly
feed the poor
help those who are victim to violence, house fires etc.
councilling services
the old cake stalls

From what Ive seen, they only do good. What they did to help others in my family after the shock loss of my mother was just unbelivable, and not once did they take or ask for a cent.

I only attend churches for weddings, funerals and christenings. I also mow the lawns of the church down the road from us, yet no one in the parish has a clue who I am, I dont know who they are and Ive never been there. I dont need to believe in God to know the good work they do.

What about the pedophiles that get shuffled from one church parish to another ? I suppose because it's someone else's kid that has been effected then it's water off a ducks back eh Verge Wink

And you forgot the Inquisition and the persecution of great scientists like Galileo much like you libbos persecute climate change scientists today Sad

You mean the way you warmists persecute sceptics and sceptical scientists, don't you nails???

After all, Galileo was going against the 'MAJORITY' view...

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Re: Theiving Church does children out of inheritance
Reply #89 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 3:29pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 2:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:

Nail.
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the rest of the crumbs get thrown at the poor and the needy

Quite right Nail.
They don't follow their own vows to live in poverty.

What have either (if there are two) of you two dropouts ever done for anyone else?

pay taxes idiot !!

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