Dnarever wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2011 at 12:56am:


OK... The rule of the road says "action to avoid collision should be positive, obvious and made in good time". Given that both vessels were engaged in activity outside the normal behaviour of ships going about their lawful business, we may safely say they both ignored this one.

Which brings us to..

"15. Crossing situations

When two power-driven vessels are crossing, the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way and avoid crossing ahead of her.

Ady Gill had maneuvered to place Shonan Maru as the give way vessel and was stopped in the water, then, as Shonan Maru altered course, probably  to bring Ady Gill in effective range of her water cannon, Ady Gill accelerated in what was a deliberate move to ensure a collision.

The presence of the other Sea Shepherd  vessel, Bob Barker, is also a factor. From the video taken of the incident this vessel appears to be directly ahead of Shonan Maru thus presenting a possible risk of collision and possibly playing a part in the maneuvers of Shonan Maru. The NZ enquiry found both vessels at fault :http://www.smh.com.au/environment/whale-watch/ady-gil--and-whalers-both-at-fault...
however  the video evidence clearly shows the actual collision was caused by the actions of Ady Gil.

Belgarion wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2011 at 2:21am:



What does it say about a ship deliberatly changing onto a collision course  with a stationary vessel as the Maru 2 obviously did.

Belgarion wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2011 at 2:21am:



The Ady Gill was statioary with the Maru on a course to pass by at least 30 mtrs and probably more like 70 mtrs till the Maru turned directly at the Ady Gill at speed.

The Ady Gill had not manouvered to place the Maru anywhere.

The Ady Gill brought up power too late in what looks like an attempt to manouver


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Rubbish - The film from the Barker clearly shows the Ady Gill Between the Maru and the Barler - this means that obviously untill the Maru Changed direction towards the Gill it was going away from or parrallel to the Barker.

Perhaps they had more to go on than a dodgy little video.

So the whalers didn't sink the Ady Gill - Sea Shepherd did.

Belgarion wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2011 at 11:16am:



The Ady Gill brought power up very late and I would agree that their panic action probably made the collision worse but no doubt their was going to be impact anyway.

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They did take early and substantial action but it was not to keep clear it was to deliberatly initiate a collision or very near collision course.

Had the Maru 2 maintained its original line it would have passed probably 70 mtrs away from the Ady Gill with no chance of an accident.

freediver wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2011 at 10:00pm:


You seem to be talanted at identifying what was not said.


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I had no doubt you would, I also have no doubt that had the Maru not been turned directly towards the Ady Gill there would have been no collision, Had the Ady gill needed to move 70 mtrs it would have been a tad more obvious.

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And if the Japanese were not illegally poaching whales in the southern ocean then neither would have been there.

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The damaged boat would have been more valuable to sea shepherd had it reached port. I doubt the decision was as simple as you suggest - yes I have seen the quotes and the captain thinks his boat could have been saved.

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 24^th, 2011 at 12:25am:


You mean that running a commercial fishing opperation disguised as a scientific study is using a loop hole, I would think more like corruption and dishonesty at a national level.

If you go out there and catch whales for a study you would find yourself in a lot of trouble - it is illegal.