Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 4
th, 2011 at 3:02pm:
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A few points: Your position is predicated on a particular type of morality. You can only believe human beings are corrupt, nasty etc. if you first posit a moral position claiming what acts are right and wrong. The world will always look like a ghastly place if you view it purely through the lens of some moral code because you will always be seeing "evil" in men.
So you were disheartened that people didn't act the way you wanted them to and this attracted you to the bible and god? I don't think that really proves the righteousness (or existence) of god. It seems to merely reflect the personal morality you hold.
Yes, morality is such a tricky subject.
Yes, it is so, so, difficult for us to know the difference between, what is right, and, what is wrong.
/sarc off
Matthew 7:12
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.IMO, this generation of mankind has lost the ability to discern between good and evil.
The Judeao-Christian standards and morality,
that guided our present culture in its formative period, has been almost entirely abandoned.
Why is that?
Today, our children are taught that it is wrong to try to
'discriminate' between good and evil, and thereby to reject what is evil.
Today, they and we, are taught that essentially, good and evil do not exist.And we are taught that all people are equally like us.
Today, those who abandon standards, and moral discernment are said to be 'tolerant'.
And instead, we are taught that to differentiate the merits of different cultures, is wrong, and even 'racist'.
IMO, those who take such a position are a part of the problem, a part of the wickedness.
Wickedness rejects responsibility for the consequences of it choices.
i.e.
Wickedness says;
"I can do, whatever i can do. And nobody has the right to criticise my 'morality'."i.e.
Such people imagine that 'rules' don't apply to them.
They displace God, they displace his laws, his rules, his morality [Matthew 7:12, above].
Immorality = = I make my own rules. [i.e. I am my own god.]
I can do whatever i like, as long as i can get away with it.
i.e.
"If there are no consequences for my actions, what's the prob!!?"IMO, 'freedom', **to this generation of mankind**, means being able to do whatever they like,
...so long as there are no adverse consequences
for themselves.
Like our [community] leaders, they want authority and freedom,
but then reject responsibility, when things go wrong.
No?
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To me, freedom means, i should try to separate myself from those influences, which, if i allow them act upon me, and my life, they will *cause* my bondage [through their consequences].
i.e.
If i separate myself from wickedness, in my life, i will, remain free and happy.
'Cause and effect'.
It is not rocket science.
Some time ago, in a shopping centre i saw an approximation of our society's 'morality' emblazoned on a man's T-shirt;
"Its only illegal if they catch you."
Many people today seem to believe in such a 'moral' position.
And why?
Because today, children are taught essentially, that good, and, evil do not exist, but if anything is evil, it is 'intolerance'.
"Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil."Thomas Mann
Isaiah 1:21
How is the faithful city become an harlot!
it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
22 Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:
23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
The problem with Christian morality is that it is grounded on a debunked metaphysics. To claim good and evil come from god is to completely ignore the legislation process. Whatever rules or regulations that are put in place are done so by whoever has the power to. Morality is mostly power games; that of one group imposing their will on another. The group imposing their morality do so because it's either in their interests or the interests they serve. It's always been like this. Christian morality is no different. The morality Christians, and other religious people, want to impose is done in order to benefit their "way of life".