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Re: What makes a nation 'great'?
Reply #45 - Mar 9^th, 2011 at 11:17pm

.....all great nations have imperial fascist foreign policies that are based on violence cruelty and arrogant expansionism

Currently we have the great nation called the USA.

over 1000 military installations in over 140 nations across the planet

DO AS YOU ARE TOLD MY FRIENDS

and by "great" I mean 'evil'

There are only 3 trully great nations on the surface of this planet today

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Re: What makes a nation 'great'?
Reply #46 - Mar 29^th, 2011 at 8:35am

Foolosophy wrote on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 11:17pm:

.....all great nations have imperial fascist foreign policies that are based on violence cruelty and arrogant expansionism

Currently we have the great nation called the USA.

over 1000 military installations in over 140 nations across the planet

DO AS YOU ARE TOLD MY FRIENDS

and by "great" I mean 'evil'

There are only 3 trully great nations on the surface of this planet today

Enlighten us, please.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: What makes a nation 'great'? Reply #47 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 8:54am Don't hold your breath, Yadda. The guy's a looney.
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: What makes a nation 'great'? Reply #48 - Apr 2^nd, 2011 at 6:48pm Hate to say it, but the Art (computer) Industry is making this Nation wealthy, not Politics ...which seems to be slowly going broke and would be utterly spent if it wasn't for the 'mandatory' vote. Move over Minoa Move over Ramses 2 Egypt. Move over WETA Workshop Here comes the WWW.COMmunity of OCEANIA.
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Reply #49 - Apr 2^nd, 2011 at 10:25pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2011 at 6:48pm:

Hate to say it, but the Art (computer) Industry is making this Nation wealthy, not Politics ...which seems to be slowly going broke and would be utterly spent if it wasn't for the 'mandatory' vote.

Move over Minoa
Move over Ramses 2 Egypt.
Move over WETA Workshop

Here comes the WWW.COMmunity of OCEANIA.

You too?
(a looney?)

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Re: What makes a nation 'great'?
Reply #50 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:46am

Belgarion wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:

Right, wrong, good, and evil is all perspective. So it would depends on what one considers right, wrong, good, or evil if I would be beyond it or not.

So any act, no matter how vile or disgusting, can be excused if from the perpetrators perspective it is right?

The US military machine... and any military machine that is dominant would say yes.

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Re: What makes a nation 'great'?
Reply #51 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:49am

Sappho wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:46am:

Belgarion wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:

Right, wrong, good, and evil is all perspective. So it would depends on what one considers right, wrong, good, or evil if I would be beyond it or not.

So any act, no matter how vile or disgusting, can be excused if from the perpetrators perspective it is right?

The US military machine... and any military machine that is dominant would say yes.

Via the doctrine of exceptionalism...

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Sappho Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1406 Gender:	Re: What makes a nation 'great'? Reply #52 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:50am Wealth, which brings with it leisure, is that which makes a nation great. You must have leisure time for thinking and creating and the wealth to bring that thinking and creating into fruition. Wealth is born of dominating and subjugating surrounding territories.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38821 Gender:	Re: What makes a nation 'great'? Reply #53 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 7:43pm That is.....you beat the poo out of your weak neighbour, take his wives, his camels, the fleas under their armpits, and all his eggs. Is that the wealth of which you speak?
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Reply #54 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:03pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 7:43pm:

That is.....you beat the poo out of your weak neighbour, take his wives, his camels, the fleas under their armpits, and all his eggs.

Is that the wealth of which you speak?

Pretty much yeah... this is the message loud and clear from history.

Consider the Spartans... Romans... Europeans and Arabs of their respective Renaissances... the British Empire...

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38821 Gender:	Re: What makes a nation 'great'? Reply #55 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:58pm And what has that do to with Foolosophy? Surely that is a given Militarily? Obvious.
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Sappho Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1406 Gender:	Re: What makes a nation 'great'? Reply #56 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 9:12pm Aussie wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:58pm: And what has that do to with Foolosophy? Surely that is a given Militarily? Obvious. I've already explained that Aussie... the wealthy have more leisure time... leisure is necessary for thought and creativity.
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Re: What makes a nation 'great'?
Reply #57 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 9:34pm

Sappho wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:46am:

Belgarion wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:

Right, wrong, good, and evil is all perspective. So it would depends on what one considers right, wrong, good, or evil if I would be beyond it or not.

So any act, no matter how vile or disgusting, can be excused if from the perpetrators perspective it is right?

The US military machine... and any military machine that is dominant would say yes.

It is a very obvious fallacy to say that if something is dominant it must be, by implication, wrong. I for one can't think of any other country I'd prefer as a hegemon in my lifetime that th US. Or in my children's lifetime. Or my children's children's lifetime - etc, etc.

Some hegemons are far better than all the alternatives. The US is such a one.

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Re: What makes a nation 'great'?
Reply #58 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 9:48pm

Soren wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 9:34pm:

Sappho wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 8:46am:

Belgarion wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Feb 6^th, 2011 at 8:43pm:

Right, wrong, good, and evil is all perspective. So it would depends on what one considers right, wrong, good, or evil if I would be beyond it or not.

So any act, no matter how vile or disgusting, can be excused if from the perpetrators perspective it is right?

The US military machine... and any military machine that is dominant would say yes.

It is a very obvious fallacy to say that if something is dominant it must be, by implication, wrong.

I didn't say that... I said that any dominant military machine is by implication right.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: What makes a nation 'great'? Reply #59 - Apr 3^rd, 2011 at 9:56pm That's not a better fallacy. Might in itself is not right.
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