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Jan 23^rd, 2011 at 10:24pm

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Yesterday at 7:46pm abu_rashid wrote on Yesterday at 5:09pm:

Islam is a system, if the system is implemented, it can be held accountable, if it's not, it can't... pretty logical I'd think.

Abu are you saying that Islam cannot affect the behaviour of a Muslim unless it is imposed by law, or are you merely denying any responsibility on the part of Islam unless it is imposed by law?

a muslim excusing islam ..............

no wonder the freaks hate being questioned

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Reply #1 - May 6^th, 2011 at 1:42pm

A muslim man pleaded guilty to killing his 2 year old daughter in Melbourne. He didn't like the idea that the little girl's mother might not want her to grow up Muslim. He didn't like the idea that the girl's mother, Christian, wanted more independence from him (who can blame her?)

'Bout 2 kill ma kid': guilty father's chilling Facebook updates
Adrian Lowe
May 4, 2011 - 1:26PM

A man who murdered his two-year-old daughter last year posted Facebook updates about his crime, a Melbourne court has learnt.

Ramazan Acar this morning pleaded guilty to the murder of his daughter Yazmina in November last year.

Acar, 24, of Meadow Heights, did not apply for bail and Magistrate Peter Reardon remanded him to reappear in the Supreme Court later this month.

Advertisement: Story continues below Yazmina’s body was found in grassland near Greenvale Reservoir, near Broadmeadows in Melbourne’s north, in the early hours of November 18.

Court documents reveal she had been stabbed more than once by her father before she was dumped.

Police, in their summary of the case, said Acar accessed his Facebook page via his mobile phone to post updates.

One, at 7.23pm, read: "Bout 2 kill ma kid". Later, at 7.34pm, he posted: "Pay bk u slut".

Earlier, Yazmina’s mother, Rachelle D’Argent, had received text messages from Acar. One read: "U wanted to convert ma kid do it u wanted to lock me up I did it u wanted 2 b indapendant do it u take full custdy do it u wana kill me il do it wat eva makes u happy nw tel me" (sic).

Another, sent at 7.32pm, read: "It’s ova I did it."

Later, Acar sent Ms D’Argent more text messages — "I h8t you" and "She’s in heaven I feel lyk poo".

At 11.20pm, Acar updated his Facebook status to read: "I lv u mimi". (Mimi was a pet name for Yazmina used by her family.)

Outside court today, Ms D’Argent said the guilty plea had come as a relief.

She said being at court today meant "the world" to her and she now felt her daughter had received justice.

She said she would continue to attend court hearings until Acar was sentenced.

"I wanted him to look me in the eye and he did," Ms D’Argent said. "It was) a quick glimpse but enough for him to say he was guilty.

"I’m getting happier, I can say."

Asked what she would say to her daughter, Ms D’Argent said: "Mummy’s always going to be there for you."

As Acar was led from court, a relative of Yazmina shouted ‘‘rot in hell’’ as Ms D’Argent wept and flicked her hand at him.

The police summary said of Yazmina: "The deceased was described as an active, intelligent an engaging child who was deeply loved. She enjoyed Dora the Explorer and riding her pink bicycle."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bout-2-kill-ma-kid-guilty-fathers-chilling-facebook-updates-20110504-1e7g9.html#ixzz1LXX16bpR

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Reply #2 - May 6^th, 2011 at 3:58pm

Soren wrote on May 6^th, 2011 at 1:42pm:

A muslim man pleaded guilty to killing his 2 year old daughter in Melbourne. He didn't like the idea that the little girl's mother might not want her to grow up Muslim. He didn't like the idea that the girl's mother, Christian, wanted more independence from him (who can blame her?)

'Bout 2 kill ma kid': guilty father's chilling Facebook updates
Adrian Lowe
May 4, 2011 - 1:26PM

What this moslem person did, would be completely legal in a Sharia jurisdiction.
[...no joke, and i am not kidding ya]

Hey!, the guy was just doing what his religion said was OK, for him to do.

Who are we to prevent people like this, from enjoying their 'religious freedom' ???

What are you ???

A bigot ???

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ISLAMIC law *specifically* gives moslem men, the right to kill their children [and grandchildren].

e.g.

"British girl kidnapped by Saudi father: "I told [the police] he was keeping me there against my will and all they said was, 'He's your father, if he wants he can kill you'."
Indeed, traditional Islamic law does not prescribe retaliation against a parent for killing his or her child. For example: "not subject to retaliation" is "a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring's offspring." ('Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2)." "

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/british-girl-kidnapped-by-saudi-father-i-told-...

The murder of moslem women and children often goes *unreported* within moslem families - even in Western nations.

Because such 'events' [within families] are not even crimes within ISLAMIC law.

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Reply #3 - May 7^th, 2011 at 10:26pm

Islam is where everybody else was 700 years ago. To encounter a devout Muslim is to come face to face someone with the mentality of an average European in the early 14th century.

Meeting devout Muslims is the closest we can come to time travel backwards.

It is worth contemplating why this force for re-primitivasion finds it adherents among the barely/recently unprimitivised (aka the tinted demographic, what we call the 'paki buggers') and the untinted misfits and discontents.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96563	Re: Does Islam affect Muslim's behaviour ............ Reply #5 - May 7^th, 2011 at 11:05pm Effende, my frien use this cream which make his skin pink like German tourist. He tries to buy prostitute and she ask him for twenty dollars!
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Reply #6 - May 7^th, 2011 at 11:53pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 7^th, 2011 at 11:03pm:

shows in their backward countries and absence of inventions.

Well, look who it is. The suspicious three. How cosy.

You all seem to have missed the news lately, I see. Allow me to inform you: we have places called compounds, where we keep people called targets, who plan incidents called bombings, using inventions called boxcutters.

Believe me, we are quite progressive in our sinister plots and plans to kill you all. We are extremely efficient, I can assure you. Soon, we shall take over the world!

You snivelling do-gooders can sit around bemoaning our backwardness. But who do you blame first when our levelling hand is played?

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Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2011 at 2:16am

Soren wrote on May 7^th, 2011 at 10:26pm:

Islam is where everybody else was 700 years ago. To encounter a devout Muslim is to come face to face someone with the mentality of an average European in the early 14th century.

Meeting devout Muslims is the closest we can come to time travel backwards.

LOL

So true, so shockingly true.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #8 - May 12^th, 2011 at 10:12am

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A Yemeni man arrested on a San Francisco-bound plane repeatedly shouted "Allah Akbar" as he tried to break into the cockpit, a court heard yesterday, as he made an initial appearance.

Rageh Ahmed Mohammed Al-Murisi appeared sullen as a federal judge told the California resident he was charged with interfering with a flight crew, a felony that can carry up to 20 years in prison.

With an Arabic interpreter by his side, the 28-year-old listened as prosecutor Elise Becker told Judge James Larson how he strode toward the front of American Airlines Flight 1561 shortly before landing Sunday evening.

Advertisement: Story continues below Murisi, a slight man with a short beard, "repeatedly yelled 'Allah Akbar' while attempting to enter the cockpit," and struggled as several passengers and a flight attendant restrained him, she said.

An affidavit filed by a federal air marshal says the flight attendant first thought Murisi was confused as he approached the cockpit and the attendant twice tried to direct him to the restroom.

Murisi then made eye contact with the flight attendant, according to the affidavit, and rammed the cockpit door with his shoulder.

Becker focused on the "Allah Akbar" phrase, not mentioned in the one-page affidavit, as evidence of Murisi's violent intentions. The words are Arabic for "God is great" and are commonly used by Muslims, especially in prayer.

Becker said the phrase is often used by terrorists and is evidence that Al-Murisi is a danger to the community and should be kept in custody during court proceedings.

She cited examples of extremists using the phrase before committing acts of terror, such as the hijackers who took over United Airlines Flight 93 on September 11, 2001, and a US Army major who opened fire on a Texas military base in 2009..........

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/man-shouted-allah-akbar-as-he-ramm...

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Reply #9 - May 12^th, 2011 at 10:37am

^^^^

And they seem to be amazinglyy stupid and devious at the same time when they get caught. The above bastard's cousin (they all have dozens of those, have you noticed?) defended him saying:

'Maybe he was looking for the bathroom': Family defends Yemeni passenger who stormed cockpit, shouting 'Allahu Akbar' as plane came in to land at San Francisco
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385083/Rageit-Almurisi-Family-defends-Y...

I think I'll try that next time I am constipated and need to choke a darkie in a hurry: cry Allahu Akhbar and get the sh!ts pronto!

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Reply #10 - May 12^th, 2011 at 12:41pm

Soren wrote on May 12^th, 2011 at 10:37am:

^^^^

And they seem to be amazinglyy stupid and devious at the same time when they get caught. The above bastard's cousin (they all have dozens of those, have you noticed?) defended him saying:

'Maybe he was looking for the bathroom': Family defends Yemeni passenger who stormed cockpit, shouting 'Allahu Akbar' as plane came in to land at San Francisco
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385083/Rageit-Almurisi-Family-defends-Y...

I think I'll try that next time I am constipated and need to choke a darkie in a hurry: cry Allahu Akhbar and get the sh!ts pronto!

Effende, I also like these proto sh!ts, but is haram to choke darkie unless he rape sister.

We have a saying in my country: do not use name of God only when constipated. Use name of God with every sh!ts and it will always pass in peace, insh'allah.

Is no good you are constipated, my friend. I feel very sorry for you and your family. You should try name of God for sure.

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Reply #12 - May 13^th, 2011 at 11:17am

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NEW York undercover police have arrested two men who bought weapons in an alleged plot to unleash a bloodbath in Manhattan synagogues, city officials say.

The suspects, Ahmed Ferhani, 26, and Mohamed Mamdouh, 20, both of North African descent, were also alleged to have said they would attack the Empire State Building.

Police "arrested two men who said they wanted to destroy a major synagogue in Manhattan and then purchased several weapons and a grenade from an undercover officer," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in a news conference.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the men - one a US citizen and the other a legal resident - were arrested immediately after purchasing weapons from an undercover agent.

They bought two Browning semi-automatic pistols, a Smith and Wesson handgun, ammunition and a hand grenade during the sting operation, Commissioner Kelly said.

According to the Manhattan prosecutor's office, the undercover investigation lasted seven months, during which time Ferhani and Mamdouh were recorded making plans for horrific attacks against the city's large Jewish population.

They "planned visits to Manhattan's largest synagogues, intending to disguise themselves as Jewish worshippers, attend services at a synagogue and, while pretending to pray, leave a bomb in the synagogue," the Manhattan District Attorney's office said.

"Ferhani discussed, among other things, buying a grenade to throw into a synagogue, buying a gun with a silencer, and buying multiple guns to use as part of the plan in case they were caught. He discussed learning to build bombs so he could blow up a synagogue."

New York, targeted repeatedly by Islamist bombers over the last two decades, has been on heightened alert since US commandos killed Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

Mr Bloomberg said there had been 13 plots against New York since the September 11, 2001 mass murder of nearly 3,000 people at the World Trade Centre.

Officials described the pair as Islamist extremists, but said they were "lone wolves" not connected to any formal group such as Al-Qa'ida.

"They did it for Jihad," District Attorney Cyrus Vance said.

"He was fed up with the way Muslims were being treated around the world. 'They're treating us like dogs,"' Mr Kelly quoted one defendant as saying.

"We will blow up the synagogue in Manhattan and take out the entire building," Kelly quoted a suspect as saying. One "also expressed interest in bombing the Empire State Building."

In an unusual move, the two were being charged by New York state, not federal prosecutors. Mr Vance said there were four counts under terrorism and hate crimes laws.

The charges carry a potential penalty of life in prison.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/new-york-terror-plot-allegedly-target...

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Reply #13 - May 14^th, 2011 at 9:58pm

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PAKISTAN'S Taliban claim a suicide attack that killed more than 80 people is just the first of many revenge attacks for the killing of Osama bin Laden.

Two bombs were detonated in Shabqadar in north-western Pakistan yesterday as newly trained paramilitary cadets were boarding buses for a 10-day leave after a training course.

''This was the first revenge for Osama's martyrdom. Wait for bigger attacks in Pakistan and Afghanistan,'' Ehsanullah Ehsan, a spokesman for Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, told Agence France-Presse........

http://www.theage.com.au/world/80-die-as-pakistan-bombing-launches-wave-of-bin-l...

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Reply #14 - May 15^th, 2011 at 4:45am

I trhink that we should find a balance between Islamic law and ours.
After all, we are all just humans an we need to live together now more than ever.

It's quite obvious that our laws don't work so well.
Islami sicieties are far more harmonios than ours.

We should take a damned good hard look at ourselves and see (with our own eyes) what it has accomplished.
It really hasn't accomplished that much in real terms.

Testatement is the good man who had the balls to display his cuase in a rational way rather than the road more trodden..ie: killing the wife and children.
This is rife in our society. It's not a good society.

In nine out of ten cases, these murders will not happen, because of ingraiined societal torture and braiinwashing.]
Sooner or later, the tortured will rise up to be counted.

This display of srtength from the Harbour Bridge man should become commonplace, and we will be rid of the nurders of ex-wives and children.
We have no peace in this country when we have these situations happening on a very very regular basis.
And yes, it is far more regular than what has been reported.

We are far from being a free nation. Most others are more free than ours.
..Free to be what you are that is.

My great grandfather who died for our freedom would be rolling in his grave right now.
I'm rolling in my grave and I ain't even dead yet. So what's it mater?
I may as roll it out and fight 'til the death.

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