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Andrei.Hicks
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Reply #315 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 2:35pm
 
Verge wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 2:25pm:
Please delete wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 2:16pm:
Verge wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 2:11pm:
The thing that pisses me off about the Australian Taxation system is it is designed to punish single income families who have a stay at home parent.

I will wear the levy, except if my income was split we would just escape it after deductions.

Its funny how the government wants to help families, just not traditional ones.


Hey verge, try being a single with no dependants! Get NUTHIN!


Well we were DINKS (double income, not kids) up unless June last year, then my wife took early maternity leave thanks to violent morning sickness and we wore that.

But they talk about wanting to help families yet there is no tax incentive for a parent to stay at home.  While one has an income of zero, the other is paying $0.40 in the dollar over $80k, yet dual incomes on $45k each enjoy a much lower rate.

Single income family - $90k salary - Tax Paid in total is $22,000 with a nett of $68,000, or $34,000 each.

Dual income family of $45k each is tax paid of in total - $16,200 with a family nett of $73,800, or $36,900 each.

I dont know about you, but why should one family be $5,800 better off than another?



I agree.

Also when we compare ourselves to now to when we were DINKS are family income is not much over HALF what it used to be.

We used to clear over $19k per month after tax when just the two of us!

It was a brutal cliff-top drop.
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Reply #316 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:34pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 7:13am:
The verdict is IN





A MAJORITY of Australians have backed Julia Gillard's $1.8 billion flood levy
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As Federal Parliament this week resumes for the year to debate the controversial tax,
the first Newspoll of the year shows 55 per cent of people support it.


In a boost for the Prime Minister's risky strategy to impose the tax to help pay for the clean up of Queensland and Victoria's floods,
only 41 per cent were opposed.


Support for the tax was strongest among 18 to 34 year olds and weakest among the over 50s


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/majority-of-australians-support-julia-...





Does it not occur to the members of the Liberal Party just how OUT OF TOUCH their leader is with ordinary Australians ?





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Reply #317 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:56pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:34pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 7:13am:
The verdict is IN





A MAJORITY of Australians have backed Julia Gillard's $1.8 billion flood levy
.
As Federal Parliament this week resumes for the year to debate the controversial tax,
the first Newspoll of the year shows 55 per cent of people support it.


In a boost for the Prime Minister's risky strategy to impose the tax to help pay for the clean up of Queensland and Victoria's floods,
only 41 per cent were opposed.


Support for the tax was strongest among 18 to 34 year olds and weakest among the over 50s


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/majority-of-australians-support-julia-...





Does it not occur to the members of the Liberal Party just how OUT OF TOUCH their leader is with ordinary Australians ?








It was totally wrong the first time my free-loading friend.

Incidentally how much will you be paying Buzz?

Same old, same old?

$0 and 0 cents?
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Reply #318 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:59pm
 
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Incidentally how much will you be paying Buzz?







About the same as YOU





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Reply #319 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 4:02pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:59pm:
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Incidentally how much will you be paying Buzz?







About the same as YOU








Difference -

1) I live in La Jolla
2) I do not demand others pay it whilst paying none myself.


You sir, are a hypocrite of the highest order.

How about you start paying into Australia - then maybe your voice would matter.
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Reply #320 - Feb 7th, 2011 at 4:39pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 4:02pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 7th, 2011 at 3:59pm:
Quote:
Incidentally how much will you be paying Buzz?







About the same as YOU








Difference -

1) I live in La Jolla
2) I do not demand others pay it whilst paying none myself.


You sir, are a hypocrite of the highest order.

How about you start paying into Australia - then maybe your voice would matter.


ditto for you my Hickory friend.  Oh wait.. .I remember...some time ago you paid some taxes and now blah blah blah blah blah blah same repeat story blah blah blah no one cares blah blah blah.

Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #321 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 8:27am
 

here is a contradiction (lie) somewhere, julie has always claimed HER BER was good value for money and she would do it again.
she has ALWAYS completely defended it.

So, why this ?? Quote:
JULIA Gillard has appointed an expert inspectorate to enforce strict discipline over spending on Queensland's flood and cyclone recovery and avoid a recurrence of the waste that dogged Labor's first term in office.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillard-vows-no-repeat-of...

if the BER was as terrific as she said it was, she should run the flood repairs along exactly the same lines.
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Reply #322 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:15am
 
Abbott stresses a Labor government is addicted to tax...whereas I think it's more about extortion and opportunism, than addiction itself.

So, equ, are you suggesting we impose another GREAT BIG NEW TAX LEVY after each natural disaster?

Particularly when this TAX cant be justified.

Labors days are numbered, the public have woken up!

Best you put your energy into revitalising an opposition Labor cabinet for the next 8 or so years...and learn from this woeful Labor government who's leaders between them (Gillard/Rudd) could not achieve a full term as a majority government.

Cool Proof is in the pudding.
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Reply #323 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:23am
 
mellie wrote on Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:15am:
Abbott stresses a Labor government is addicted to tax...whereas I think it's more about extortion and opportunism, than addiction itself.

So, equ, are you suggesting we impose another GREAT BIG NEW TAX LEVY after each natural disaster?

Particularly when this TAX cant be justified.

Labors days are numbered, the public have woken up!

Best you put your energy into revitalising an opposition Labor cabinet for the next 8 or so years...and learn from this woeful Labor government who's leaders between them (Gillard/Rudd) could not achieve a full term as a majority government.

Cool Proof is in the pudding.

Who will replace Abbott?
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Reply #324 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:29am
 
ABBOTT (Warringah—Leader of the Opposition) This government has told many fibs, including in question time today. There was the preelection emphatic ruling out of a carbon tax, which has been most definitely ruled in since the election. There was the statement before the election that there was no way they would be building new immigration detention centres on shore, which has been completely overturned since the election. There was the claim before the election that the mining tax issue was all solved, which has totally unravelled after the election, and then, of course, today from the Prime Minister— repeatedly—there was this claim that interest rates were higher under the former government than under the current government. She is absolutely wrong. The standard variable mortgage rate paid by homebuyers under the Rudd-Gillard government has averaged 7.41 per cent. Under the Howard government the rate average was only 7.24 per cent. So she is wrong, wrong, wrong. Sure, the cash rate, thanks to the global financial crisis, has been much lower under this government, but the spread has almost doubled. The rates actually experienced by homebuyers and small business borrowers have been higher under this government than under the former government, notwithstanding the global financial crisis.

The biggest fib of all is that this is a government which knows how to manage the economy. The great lie is that this government has somehow saved Australia from the global financial crisis. Well, let me make it absolutely crystal clear yet again that it is the reforms of previous governments which saved this country from the global financial crisis, not the spending spree of the current government. But haven’t they spent. They found a $20 billion surplus and within a year they had turned it into a $50-plus billion deficit. There is the $50-plus billion deficit for the financial year just gone and there is the $40-plus billion deficit that they expect for the current financial year. There is the borrowing of $100 million a day which is going on under this government which means that, even on the best case scenario, borrowing will peak at $5,000 for every Australian man, woman and child, after the former government had given this country a $60 billion net asset position. This government, within the space of just a few years, will deliver a $100 billion net debt position.

What have they spent the money on? Pink batts—a program which has caused house fire after house fire, a program which tragically has been linked with four deaths. This is the quality of the government’s economic management. They spend money in ways that have actually done all sorts of terrible, even fatal, damage to the Australian people. Then, of course, there is the school halls program and this idea that somehow Australia was saved from the global financial crisis— which, according to the Governor of the Reserve Bank, lasted just six weeks, other than as a North Atlantic phenomenon—with a spending spree lasting four years, which is longer than the First World War. And what about the quality of that spending? Study after study has shown that in New South Wales public schools the Building the Education Revolution structures have cost on average $4,000 per square metre, which is almost three times the industry average of just $1,500 per square metre. These are gold medal wasters of money and they have absolutely no plan to deal with the Australian economy.

I tell you how to characterise their economic planning and, yes, let us sum it up in a very useful threeword encapsulation: it is borrow, waste and tax. That is their plan for the Australian economy. And, on the subject of tax, there is the emissions trading scheme, a great big tax that was billed to raise something like $100 billion over the first 10 years of its operation, and the mining tax, billed to raise almost $10 billion in the first two years of its operation, both of them taxes that would seriously damage the long-term health of the Australian economy.

But it has been going from bad to worse since the election. The waste just gets worse. Let us look at that which they are so proud of: the $43 billion National Broadband Network that was cooked up on the back of an envelope in a flight because the only way the Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy could get to see the Prime Minister was to catch a plane with him. So, on the back of a coaster in the VIP jet, they cooked up this $43 billion white elephant.

There are so many things wrong with the National Broadband Network. To start with, it replaces a competitive market with a government monopoly. Then it uses a single technology instead of a range of alternatives. Finally, and most pathetically for a government that claims to be economically conservative, there was not a single cost-benefit analysis done. It is no wonder that the one minister in the government who had any economic literacy at all, the only economically shrewd minister in this government, the former member for Melbourne and former Minister for Finance and Deregulation, Lindsay Tanner—who once said that there would be no major spending from this government without a published cost-benefit analysis first—quit in embarrassment at the government’s policy and in disgust at the kind of internal political shenanigans which resulted in the election of the current Prime Minister.

Let’s make it absolutely crystal clear: this government does
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Reply #325 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:32am
 
thats from Tony Abbott btw..

they forget about the alcopops tax and the ciggies tax and the Carbon[we wont have] Tax, and the disaster tax..oppps levy!

and can we look forward to all those sneaky State taxes as well.. like road tolls suddenly going up.. stamp duty. fines. more speed cameras..
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Reply #326 - Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:34am
 
skippy. wrote on Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:23am:
mellie wrote on Feb 8th, 2011 at 9:15am:
Abbott stresses a Labor government is addicted to tax...whereas I think it's more about extortion and opportunism, than addiction itself.

So, equ, are you suggesting we impose another GREAT BIG NEW TAX LEVY after each natural disaster?

Particularly when this TAX cant be justified.

Labors days are numbered, the public have woken up!

Best you put your energy into revitalising an opposition Labor cabinet for the next 8 or so years...and learn from this woeful Labor government who's leaders between them (Gillard/Rudd) could not achieve a full term as a majority government.

Cool Proof is in the pudding.

Who will replace Abbott?




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who will replace gizzard you mean..ha.ha
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