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Reply #45 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

God I love a good coup, Abbott probably doesn't even see it coming, he'll be out on his bike in his pink Lycra while the others are counting the numbers.
What Abbott and his support base fail to realise is that he won the leadership ballot last time by just one vote, that was before the party saw what a bad job he'd make of it.Abbott is dead man walking.

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Reply #46 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:46pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

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I can hear the roar of excitement now, the day Abbott comes in

LOL, there's always at least one idiot who never gets it.
Abbott is about to get dumped as Lib leader, will you be supporting Turnbull, or Hockey? when Abbott is rolled.

I just hope it isn't Robb; just another disaster in the waiting.

I think there will be 4 candidates stand
Turnbull
Hockey
Robb
Abbott
I think having so many stand will work in either Hockey or Turnbulls favour, one thing I'll put money on now, is that Abbott will run 4th.

I don't think Turnball will get a chance this time around. I think he might resurge in a few years time.

But it's quite clear Robb is making a move, either for Bishop or for Abbott!

Speaking of Bishop, is the drone still alive?

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Reply #47 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:52pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:46pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:41pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 2:33pm:

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I can hear the roar of excitement now, the day Abbott comes in

LOL, there's always at least one idiot who never gets it.
Abbott is about to get dumped as Lib leader, will you be supporting Turnbull, or Hockey? when Abbott is rolled.

I just hope it isn't Robb; just another disaster in the waiting.

I think there will be 4 candidates stand
Turnbull
Hockey
Robb
Abbott
I think having so many stand will work in either Hockey or Turnbulls favour, one thing I'll put money on now, is that Abbott will run 4th.

I don't think Turnball will get a chance this time around. I think he might resurge in a few years time.

But it's quite clear Robb is making a move, either for Bishop or for Abbott!

Speaking of Bishop, is the drone still alive?

LOL, cyclops is hiding under her rock, pretending all this talk will go away.
Robb wants the treasurers job and deputy leaders job, but Hockey wont give his job up without a fight, cyclops will try and hold her job too.
If Robb makes a move on cyclops and Hockey, Hockey has no choice but to take out Abbott, or lose his chance.
I think the end result, this time around will be Hockey as leader, Robb as deputy and shadow treasurer.

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Reply #48 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:03pm

alevine wrote on Today at 1:58pm

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The subsidy in its nature would be an easing of cost of living pressure on family budgets paid for by removal of Government waste and unnecessary welfare spending.

There would be areas to be looked at -

1) I'd freeze public sector pay to inflation only.
2) I'd increase GST to 17.5%
3) I would cut unemployment benefit
4) I would removal Government waste on public sector projects

It would be a subsidy designed to help and assist families.
I'd have a very family orientated budget for Australia, and it would work.

great thinking - that should see the alp in opposition for the next 30 years.

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Reply #49 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:05pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

alevine wrote on Today at 1:58pm

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The subsidy in its nature would be an easing of cost of living pressure on family budgets paid for by removal of Government waste and unnecessary welfare spending.

There would be areas to be looked at -

1) I'd freeze public sector pay to inflation only.
2) I'd increase GST to 17.5%
3) I would cut unemployment benefit
4) I would removal Government waste on public sector projects

It would be a subsidy designed to help and assist families.
I'd have a very family orientated budget for Australia, and it would work.

great thinking - that should see the alp in opposition for the next 30 years.

LOL, your comrade hicks wrote that sprint, but I agree, it would keep the Libs in opposition for 30 years.lol.

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Reply #50 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:08pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:05pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

alevine wrote on Today at 1:58pm

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The subsidy in its nature would be an easing of cost of living pressure on family budgets paid for by removal of Government waste and unnecessary welfare spending.

There would be areas to be looked at -

1) I'd freeze public sector pay to inflation only.
2) I'd increase GST to 17.5%
3) I would cut unemployment benefit
4) I would removal Government waste on public sector projects

It would be a subsidy designed to help and assist families.
I'd have a very family orientated budget for Australia, and it would work.

great thinking - that should see the alp in opposition for the next 30 years.

LOL, your comrade hicks wrote that sprint, but I agree, it would keep the Libs in opposition for 30 years.lol.

Good budgeting and a sound, prosperous economy putting working families first?
yeah sure it will.....

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Reply #51 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:12pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

alevine wrote on Today at 1:58pm

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The subsidy in its nature would be an easing of cost of living pressure on family budgets paid for by removal of Government waste and unnecessary welfare spending.

There would be areas to be looked at -

1) I'd freeze public sector pay to inflation only.
2) I'd increase GST to 17.5%
3) I would cut unemployment benefit
4) I would removal Government waste on public sector projects

It would be a subsidy designed to help and assist families.
I'd have a very family orientated budget for Australia, and it would work.

great thinking - that should see the alp in opposition for the next 30 years.

You realise Andrei wrote that, right?

BTW Andrei, sorry mate, my mind's in my work atm but I just went back to your post. Your 17.5% GST won't help your subsidy considering its all going back to the states.

And on that, still waiting for a response to the other questions. How long shall I wait?

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Reply #52 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:13pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:12pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

alevine wrote on Today at 1:58pm

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The subsidy in its nature would be an easing of cost of living pressure on family budgets paid for by removal of Government waste and unnecessary welfare spending.

There would be areas to be looked at -

1) I'd freeze public sector pay to inflation only.
2) I'd increase GST to 17.5%
3) I would cut unemployment benefit
4) I would removal Government waste on public sector projects

It would be a subsidy designed to help and assist families.
I'd have a very family orientated budget for Australia, and it would work.

great thinking - that should see the alp in opposition for the next 30 years.

You realise Andrei wrote that, right?

BTW Andrei, sorry mate, my mind's in my work atm but I just went back to your post. Your 17.5% GST won't help your subsidy considering its all going back to the states.

It would because funding to the states for healthcare would be cut as result.

I'd completely overhaul Australia's punitive tax system.

Including the petrol tax.
Does it seem right to you that her I am taxed 12c per liter and you are hit with 50c per liter?
Does that seem fair?

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Reply #53 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:16pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:12pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:03pm:

alevine wrote on Today at 1:58pm

Quote:

The subsidy in its nature would be an easing of cost of living pressure on family budgets paid for by removal of Government waste and unnecessary welfare spending.

There would be areas to be looked at -

1) I'd freeze public sector pay to inflation only.
2) I'd increase GST to 17.5%
3) I would cut unemployment benefit
4) I would removal Government waste on public sector projects

It would be a subsidy designed to help and assist families.
I'd have a very family orientated budget for Australia, and it would work.

great thinking - that should see the alp in opposition for the next 30 years.

You realise Andrei wrote that, right?

BTW Andrei, sorry mate, my mind's in my work atm but I just went back to your post. Your 17.5% GST won't help your subsidy considering its all going back to the states.

It would because funding to the states for healthcare would be cut as result.

I'd completely overhaul Australia's punitive tax system.

Including the petrol tax.
Does it seem right to you that her I am taxed 12c per liter and you are hit with 50c per liter?
Does that seem fair?

Now now, don't go changing the subject. I've been asking you for 5 days to explain how your subsidy thought bubble will control the increases to electricity prices.

Not to mention that your income tax cuts will counteract the 17.5% GST...unless of course the 17.5% gets more revenue in which case once again, working families are... worse off...

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Reply #54 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:16pm

What you don't seem to get here is that I am all for the everyday working man here, the everyday family.

I run a family myself, I was brought up on the morals and values of hard work.
I too have strived to acheieve and work hard in tough circumstances at times.

What we need is to reward people, we don't need to cut them off at the knees to give to oxygen stealers.

Overall as well, I would look at the moral and social fabric of society.
Where are we going as a society? Where do we need to check things a little?
What do we need to encourage? What do we need to discourage?

I'd have a more safe, secure, prosperous country which the right kind of people in it.

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Reply #55 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:19pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:16pm:

What you don't seem to get here is that I am all for the everyday working man here, the everyday family.

I run a family myself, I was brought up on the morals and values of hard work.
I too have strived to acheieve and work hard in tough circumstances at times.

What we need is to reward people, we don't need to cut them off at the knees to give to oxygen stealers.

Overall as well, I would look at the moral and social fabric of society.
Where are we going as a society? Where do we need to check things a little?
What do we need to encourage? What do we need to discourage?

I'd have a more safe, secure, prosperous country which the right kind of people in it.

1. You don't run a family. You're part of a family. If you really believe you "run" a family then god help all women out there and the rights they've been fighting for during the past century if you were ever allowed to run ANY country.

2. You are just releasing little thought bubbles here and there. SUBSTANTIATE my bacony friend!! Now, let's start of with:
- HOW will your subsidy CONTROL price increases in energy?

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Reply #57 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:20pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:16pm:

What you don't seem to get here is that I am all for the everyday working man here, the everyday family.

I run a family myself, I was brought up on the morals and values of hard work.
I too have strived to acheieve and work hard in tough circumstances at times.

What we need is to reward people, we don't need to cut them off at the knees to give to oxygen stealers.

Overall as well, I would look at the moral and social fabric of society.
Where are we going as a society? Where do we need to check things a little?
What do we need to encourage? What do we need to discourage?

I'd have a more safe, secure, prosperous country which the right kind of people in it.

How many kids does an everyday family have?

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Reply #58 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:23pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:20pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:16pm:

What you don't seem to get here is that I am all for the everyday working man here, the everyday family.

I run a family myself, I was brought up on the morals and values of hard work.
I too have strived to acheieve and work hard in tough circumstances at times.

What we need is to reward people, we don't need to cut them off at the knees to give to oxygen stealers.

Overall as well, I would look at the moral and social fabric of society.
Where are we going as a society? Where do we need to check things a little?
What do we need to encourage? What do we need to discourage?

I'd have a more safe, secure, prosperous country which the right kind of people in it.

How many kids does an everyday family have?

As many as they would like.
As regards your nit-picking - I run a family BUDGET and am part of a family of four.
We strive through life and to make the best of what we can.

What we need though is a Government and a leadership to help us run that family budget and not try to hinder us.

Is it any surprise that for example a Labor party (allegedly the party of the working class - my demographic) have only ever financially hindered my family?

Why do they seem to make us worse off but John Howard made us better off?
Ideology?

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Reply #59 - Feb 7^th, 2011 at 3:24pm

The corporate liberal welfare state places to much of a burden on working people - Government is too big, bureaucracy is too big and corporations are far too inefficient - enough of the same old failed socialist policies. Now we can see coming into view a new world based in community, social justice and equality - when we have defeated the Nazis - and we will - we have a real shot at that new world - a world where people will not be denied opportunities based on how they look, how well they play football or if they are the biggest thug in the school yard.

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