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Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Feb 10th, 2011 at 4:25pm
 

By Amy Coopes (AFP) – 1 hour ago

SYDNEY — Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard on Thursday introduced contentious legislation for a one-off tax to help pay for devastating floods which killed 35 people and swamped thousands of homes.

The flood levy, to apply to middle and higher income earners, is expected to raise some Aus$1.8 billion of the Aus$5.6 billion needed for reconstruction after record deluges engulfed vast parts of mining and farming state Queensland.

Roads, railways and bridges were destroyed by the torrent, which killed dozens of people and brought the coal mining industry to a standstill. It is expected to cut 0.5 percentage points off economic growth in the current fiscal year.

But Labor leader Gillard's one-seat majority may be tested by the legislation, as the conservative opposition favours budget cuts including slashing foreign aid to pay for the damage. Key independents have also raised objections.

Gillard told parliament rebuilding would be one of the largest peacetime infrastructure projects ever undertaken by an Australian government and the levy was "an expression of goodwill" to the victims.

"I understand that Australians are under cost of living pressure, I understand that," the prime minister said.

"But understanding those cost of living pressures we also believe it is right, at a time that the nation faces the kind of challenges we see from the summer of disaster that we've just lived through, to ask Australians to make a contribution too."

Out of six cross-benchers, only Queensland independent Bob Katter, who refused to support Gillard in forming a government after last year's election deadlock, said he would back the levy.

"They've got me boxed in, haven't they? I mean, we've had colossal losses," the colourful Katter said. "Our situation is depressing, dismal and disastrous at the present moment."

Australia has previously used one-off levies to fund a gun buyback after a 1996 massacre in Tasmania, to protect staff entitlements after the 2001 collapse of airline Ansett, and to support the dairy and sugar industries.

Flood victims and those hit by last week's monster cyclone which tore across the northeast coast are exempt from the flood tax, which will only apply in the 2011-12 year and will be voted on in a few weeks.

"The package that I have outlined as prime minister is the right package for this nation," said Gillard, urging the opposition to put aside "petty politicking".

"We are facing a national disaster, it's a national challenge and it's a national responsibility."

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Reply #1 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 4:34pm
 
Why the bugger does this deserve its own thread when it could have easily been an update to the 2000 others on the same topic.

Purely lazy mellie, and its just spamming and trolling.  Show some courtsey for your fellow board members and post updates instead of multi-threads for which on the politics board you are a serial offender.
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Reply #2 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 5:17pm
 
Verge wrote on Feb 10th, 2011 at 4:34pm:
Why the bugger does this deserve its own thread when it could have easily been an update to the 2000 others on the same topic.

Purely lazy mellie, and its just spamming and trolling.  Show some courtsey for your fellow board members and post updates instead of multi-threads for which on the politics board you are a serial offender.




well probably because it happened today and not last week..lol.

anyway I see on tonights news Alan Wilkie says the govt has unlimited funds it can draw on for the Qld flood..

so it strikes me as this levy is more about making Labor look good with a surplus..after all it was a knee jerk plot as per usual and then she brings in the big guns from the Libs to make sure none of those nasties that ripped off all their other programs come out and bite them again...

although isnt she still denying that happened?.. I dont know anymore.

more twists and turns than "Days of our Lives"
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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 6:22pm
 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/taxpayers-foot-the-bill-for-queenslands-incompetence/story-e6frezz0-1226000698050

THERE'S a rotting smell beginning to come out of Queensland, and it isn't from debris left by the floods or Cyclone Yasi.
It has more to do with the Queensland Labor Government's excuses for failing to take out insurance against natural disasters and the federal Labor Government's determination to impose a distorted tax on the nationto pay for Queensland's huge mistake.

On Thursday, Prime Minister Julia Gillard said Queensland's lack of insurance cover for its assets was "a matter for Queensland".

Bollocks to that idea, when she is also whacking a tax on Australians to pay for Queensland's failure to insure its own infrastructure.

It was the only major state not to have insured public assets with a comprehensive disaster cover obtained on the international re-insurance market.

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Reply #4 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 6:25pm
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/taxpayers-foot-the-bill-for-queenslands-incompetence/story-e6frezz0-1226000698050

Sources within the Queensland Government say the failure to take out insurance cover is symptomatic of its financial mismanagement.

They claim the Queensland Government arranges insurance for all infrastructure as it is being built, but ceases insuring it when construction is completed.

Treasurer Fraser offers the weak excuse that insurance would cost too much and is not necessary because of natural-disaster relief arrangements made with the Federal Government.

But there's nothing special about the disaster relief arrangements - they apply to every state, and every other state also takes out insurance.

Further, the arrangements are just that - arrangements, not agreements. They're ad hoc, and rely on the Federal Government to initiate them.

If the Queensland Government had managed its insurance program responsibly, it would gave been able to re-insure and aggregate its risk insurance, thus accessing lower-cost insurance.

Instead, it is relying on an arrangement that may or may not be agreed when it is needed.

Queensland's credit rating has been downgraded, and this financial mismanagement increases its fiscal volatility, thus increasing the financial risk and increasing the likelihood of a further review of Queensland's credit rating.

It is not in the Federal Government's interest to point this out, as Queensland Premier Anna Bligh has become the new Labor poster girl through her tireless appearances as the nation's newest emergency services and weather spokesperson.

Although her media performances have dazzled some star-struck commentators always on the hunt for the latest Labor messiah, the hard questions have not been asked.

Bligh or her Treasurer must tell the nation what quotes the Queensland Government has received from the insurance market, when they were received and whether the Government has reviewed them recently.

Australians also need to know how much more they will be paying to meet the costs associated with damaged, uninsured government infrastructure in Queensland, as compared with the costs of damaged but insured government infrastructure in Victoria.

It is ridiculously arrogant for federal Infrastructure Minister Anthony Albanese to declare that it is none of our business when he and his leader have been so quick to publicly display their generosity towards Queensland with our money without these basic questions being answered.

The admirable speed with which Gillard assured Queenslanders that their damage costs would be met reeks of political opportunism.

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Reply #5 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 6:27pm
 
I think that the above article sums it up.........

We don't want to pay more money to QLD to rebuild it. WQe have already done that once........

You pay if you want too.......
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Reply #6 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 7:02pm
 
beware wrote on Feb 10th, 2011 at 6:27pm:
I think that the above article sums it up.........

We don't want to pay more money to QLD to rebuild it. WQe have already done that once........

You pay if you want too.......




precisely even the fund raised money is going to those who didnt insure first... seems to me its all wrong and one sided...

I dont begrudge anyone anything but really to punish those that insure and bend over backwards and then make them pay a second time with a levy.. plus when they get their new insurance forms it will have an added cost to it.. isnt in my book.. FAIR..

and as for making the public only the selected few pay for something that the Qld govt is responsible for through sheer bloody bad management stinks..

and most Qldrs wont be asked to contribute... what the hell is going on.

I am a pensioner and struggle to pay bills and eat.. yet I insure my own property I go without other things to do so... whats with a GOVT that doesnt see fit to so the same.
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Reply #7 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 7:43pm
 


cods wrote on Feb 10th, 2011 at 7:02pm:
beware wrote on Feb 10th, 2011 at 6:27pm:
I think that the above article sums it up.........

We don't want to pay more money to QLD to rebuild it. WQe have already done that once........

You pay if you want too.......




precisely even the fund raised money is going to those who didnt insure first... seems to me its all wrong and one sided...

I dont begrudge anyone anything but really to punish those that insure and bend over backwards and then make them pay a second time with a levy.. plus when they get their new insurance forms it will have an added cost to it.. isnt in my book.. FAIR..

and as for making the public only the selected few pay for something that the Qld govt is responsible for through sheer bloody bad management stinks..

and most Qldrs wont be asked to contribute... what the hell is going on.

I am a pensioner and struggle to pay bills and eat.. yet I insure my own property I go without other things to do so... whats with a GOVT that doesnt see fit to so the same.


Cods, I think you will find that many of these flood-affected people did have house and/or contents insurance - it's just that most insurers either didn't offer flood insurance at all or the flood insurance component offered was limited to a token amount (one only covers a limit of $15,000 with a $500 excess) or that definitions were ambiguously worded so that insurers could find a convenient way of avoiding claims...

I'm not sure about the accuracy of this, but I heard that only about 20% of those people whose homes and/or contents were insured will be covered for the damage caused by these floods - so the vast majority of the flood victims will not be covered by insurance...

By my reckoning, when 4/5 insured households don't have flood coverage - then the main problem is most likely at the level of the insurers and not the householders...

As for the cost that the QLD Govt would have incurred each year to obtain natural disaster insurance: does anyone have any relevant figures from QLD or other states?

Also, what excesses typically apply to such insurance cover?

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Reply #8 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 7:58pm
 
Seeing that many suburbs flooded in Brisbane would have been below the 100 year flood level I doubt that they would have been offered insurance or if they were it would have come at a high price.

However.....they would have known that it was below the 100 year flood and were therefore NOT protected by their Government and building rules or they were just outrightly dumb and believed that it could not flood again!!

Surely a Queenslander knows that parts of Brisbane and  the state have always flooded....SURELY THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE GREENS AND SUCH that it would never happen again!!
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beware wrote on Feb 10th, 2011 at 7:58pm:
Seeing that many suburbs flooded in Brisbane would have been below the 100 year flood level I doubt that they would have been offered insurance or if they were it would have come at a high price.

However.....they would have known that it was below the 100 year flood and were therefore NOT protected by their Government and building rules or they were just outrightly dumb and believed that it could not flood again!!

Surely a Queenslander knows that parts of Brisbane and  the state have always flooded....SURELY THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE GREENS AND SUCH that it would never happen again!!


I think you will find that many people genuinely believed that the relatively-new Wivenhoe Dam would protect them better than it did...

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Reply #10 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 8:02pm
 
What worries me is that where I live the river has not flooded since  about 1990. In that year we had 3/4 massive floods because they had to let water out of Warragamba Dam .

So what if we have to pay for the cost of QLD...... will we have to pay again and again!!
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Reply #11 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 8:05pm
 
And by the way...you cannot get finance in NSW on properties below the 100 year flood level and you are NOT allowed to build below this level!!
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Reply #12 - Feb 10th, 2011 at 8:06pm
 
Did I see a QLD registration plate called ....

     THE SMART STATE


Surely I did not read that!!LOL
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beware wrote on Feb 10th, 2011 at 8:06pm:
Did I see a QLD registration plate called ....

    THE SMART STATE


Surely I did not read that!!LOL

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Flood levy goodwill by Aussies -
It could be a month before a decision is made over the government's flood levy after the Opposition referred it to a parliamentary committee for scrutiny.

The coalition has accused the federal government of using the proposed flood levy to unfairly tax superannuation payouts.

New South Wales Liberal MP Russell Matheson says he's been contacted by a police officer who's due to retire next financial year with a lump sum superannuation payout.

Mr Matheson says the man faces a six-thousand-500 dollar flood levy bill.

Opposition leader Tony Abbot says Julia Gillard had compared the cost of the levy to a cup of coffee a week for most people, but says the PM's misleading taxpayers and what's supposed to be a cup of coffee becomes a coffee machine in the case of some taxpayers.

Ms Gillard introduced to parliament yesterday, draft laws establishing a flood reconstruction levy, describing it as an expression of goodwill between Australians.

Taxpayers earning more than $50,000 will pay a progressive levy during 2011/12 and the government estimates will raise $1.8 billion to help the commonwealth pay its $5.6 billion share of the repair bill.
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Reply #14 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 10:05am
 
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/8816234/flash-flood-hits-warburton/

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An inland wave hit the remote community of Warburton yesterday, damaging about 15 homes.
Heavy rain caused a flash flood that forced authorities to evacuate 60 residents from their homes in the town, 920km north east of Kalgoorlie.
Two people were rescued from a four-wheel-drive vehicle stranded in water up to its windows in the main street, as water up to 2m deep flowed through town.
There were no reports of major injuries.
Local worker Mike Harper said the main road past the town had turned into a river.
"The water was so strong, it came out of nowhere," he said. "I spoke to one bloke in town who said about two feet of water had flowed through his home."
The Weather Bureau said 88mm of rain fell in the town in 11 hours from 9am yesterday.
Warburton has a population of about 500.

Flash flood hits WarburtonNICK SAS, The West Australian
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