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Reply #15 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 10:27am
 
Maybe IF we had a mining tax you could have save ink mellie....

Have you seen todays news;
Rio Tinto today announced a 122% increase in its profit to $14,300,000,000. Which is more than many countrys total GDP.


'I am sorry but I consider a 122% increase in profit to $14.3 Billion Dollars nothing short of obscene and a major con of the Australian People.

So, who will share in this astronomical profit ?. Shareholders only. The country of which they mine a non renewable resource has been well and truly taken for a ride by Mining Conglomerates and their mega wealthy owners.

Obviously the mining industry knew full well that their profits were going to be Super Obscene and as a result spending a few hundred million to stop tax being imposed on many billions was good management on their behalf.

After release of these results, I would like the coalition and the mining industry, to please put forward their argument, once again, '


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Reply #16 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 10:28am
 
cool more taxes
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Reply #17 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 2:33pm
 
The Prime Minister should be indicted at the international court for imposing this Tax on Aussie disaster victims Smiley
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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #18 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 2:48pm
 
Prevailing wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
The Prime Minister should be indicted at the international court for imposing this Tax on Aussie disaster victims Smiley


I  quite agree, particularly when we have other avenues available to us...it's a pittance of a tax, but it's a tax none the less, and just her way of asserting her authority, without having to dip into funds elsewhere that have probably already been squandered.

Ie... The Terrorist tax Howard imposed in the event tragedy struck which it hasn't.  
Canberra have quite a few hollow logs they could tap, if they really wanted to without raising tension in the community, the question is....who on earth would impose a tax like this after a 'natural disaster' and why, if there was a way of avoiding it?

I agree with Tony Abbott, charity begins at home, and whilst it was a lovely gesture of Gillard having promised Indonesia $5 million for their Muslim schools, what about our own schools who are still waiting completion of the school building program she started, though failed to complete?


Like everything else this government have started, though failed to complete, it too is on the back burner.

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Reply #19 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:04pm
 
And under a Labor government we can all agree... Another day another tax!

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I have been monitoring call-back radio,(various stations all over Australia) and can assure you, this is the general consensus among the Australian public,their horrified to have learned she's covertly allocated $5 million for Indonesia's schools, this and has chosen to burden Australian victims of natural disaster with a tax instead of doing what Howard did and foot the bill under a more socially responsible government.

I guess, we can expect another new tax, whenever disaster strikes?

The Commonwealth bank donated $100 million towards Cyclone Larry when Howard was in, what have they donated this time?

Smiley Why are our corps getting greedier under a Labor government?



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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #20 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:16pm
 
Let's be HONEST, here ...


The pros and cons of this levy have
BUGGER ALL
to do with
AFFORDABILITY
to pay - but based on "principle and
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY


Up to 50K pa you pay
NOTHING

The AVERAGE income of 65K pa, you pay
under 21 CENTS a day





I would challenge ANYONE to declare this levy will affect their finances ?




It should ALSO be noted ...


This TWENTY ONE cents a day is
7%
of the value of the last range of tax CUTS under this government





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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #21 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 9:31pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:16pm:
Let's be HONEST, here ...


The pros and cons of this levy have
BUGGER ALL
to do with
AFFORDABILITY
to pay - but based on "principle and
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY


Up to 50K pa you pay
NOTHING

The AVERAGE income of 65K pa, you pay
under 21 CENTS a day





I would challenge ANYONE to declare this levy will affect their finances ?




It should ALSO be noted ...


This TWENTY ONE cents a day is
7%
of the value of the last range of tax CUTS under this government




So I take it you will be making voluntary payments throughout the year then to prove it makes not difference.
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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #22 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 9:33pm
 
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Maybe IF we had a mining tax you could have save ink mellie....

Have you seen todays news;
Rio Tinto today announced a 122% increase in its profit to $14,300,000,000. Which is more than many countrys total GDP.


'I am sorry but I consider a 122% increase in profit to $14.3 Billion Dollars nothing short of obscene and a major con of the Australian People.

So, who will share in this astronomical profit ?. Shareholders only. The country of which they mine a non renewable resource has been well and truly taken for a ride by Mining Conglomerates and their mega wealthy owners.

Obviously the mining industry knew full well that their profits were going to be Super Obscene and as a result spending a few hundred million to stop tax being imposed on many billions was good management on their behalf.

After release of these results, I would like the coalition and the mining industry, to please put forward their argument, once again, '


~quoted from  cafewhispers


Im more interested to see if the ALP has the balls to put it to the floor.  Afterall its not about the Coaltions objections if the ALP wont even put it to a vote is it.
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The day our PM wept, look, no tears even
Reply #23 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 6:06pm
 
...

Here, watch the UK edit...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12391827

The flag was a nice touch  wasn't it...

Wink
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Or compare with this... the Australian edit,




Did any of you spot the difference between the above 2 clips?


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Re: The day our PM wept, look, no tears even
Reply #24 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 6:11pm
 
Quivering fragile voice, but not a tear in sight!

Cool...  Have any of you ever tried to hold back a cry?

When your throat tightens, starts to hurt, and the tears start flooding before you can even think about blinking?


I will conclude....Labors leaders must have all had tear duct surgery, like Rudd, there were no tears, just the illusion there might have been,
if only, the tears followed through after the quivering voice.


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Re: The day our PM wept, look, no tears even
Reply #25 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 6:32pm
 
In the footage that Australians were shown on TV, and even on youtube re-play ....  was there any hint of the Australian flag?

Now compare this to the footage that was sent and shown to the UK, ...

Ooops!

Cool That was a rather long, and extended 'quiver', one patriotically clutching the Australian flag, the other without.



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Re: The day our PM wept, look, no tears even
Reply #26 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 7:09pm
 
Powerful symbolism indeed...

To cry, is to be human.
To clutch ones national flag is to be patriotic.

To clutch the flag and cry at the same time is to be passionate about ones nation of people, when we all know she has her black-heart set on our becoming a socialist republic, complete with new flag and president Shorten, minus the Union Jack.



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Sorry, I just couldn't help but marvel at the irony of the TV footage I saw on several channels here in Australia, where there be not a flag in sight.

What are they/she saying?

Is a Gillard-Labor government gradually trying to distance themselves even further from the Australian flag, after already having changed their party logo?

I will just add, GG Quentin Bryce, her Husband Michael Bryce Ausflag director and judge,tried to pull this once before...

http://www.ausflag.com.au/launch_at_brisbane_town_hall.asp

If we become a republic, especially under a Labor government, there will be no turning back the clock, and constitutionally speaking we will be royally F&&ed, given all that protects us and stops the rest of this country being sold off at the speed of sound to foreign investors is our protective constitution, Labors ministers have tweaked this many times however, slowly creeping in their desired republic.

Becoming a republic isn't about independence or our having "grown up" as Labor would have us believe, it's about their own corporate autonomy and dictatorship, ...they have achieved this with the state of WA, and have intentions of doing the same to NT more recently.

Yes, we do live under the Southern Cross, and like it or not the British did have a lot to do with founding this great nation of ours, so why remove the Union Jack form the Australian flag, this or go so far as to edit parliamentary footage for Australian viewers only as though being seen crying with it were something to be ashamed of?

Is it?

Was Gillard concerned about offending pro-republican minority voters?

Was she afraid of appearing tokenistic?

My concern is that the footage was edited for Australian viewers, whereas it was delivered to the UK in all it's patriotic 'Union Jack' glory.

She's shallow,two-faced and false.

One parliament for us, another for our commonwealth friends and the mother country it would seem.

Some of you may find this remarkably inconsequential, but for me, it's the little symbolic things like this that lend to our nations overall character.. make us who we are.

Why should we be seen by ourselves as being one thing, yet to others as something different again?

Either we are patriotic and proud of our flag or not.

Time to get real!







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Donations to the QLD flood/cyclone appeal
Reply #27 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:29pm
 
The Commonwealth bank donated $1 million under a Howard government towards cyclone Larry, 2005-2006, and despite many large corps having turned over massive profits this year...why have they not helped out?


http://www.commbank.com.au/about-us/news/media-releases/2006/220306-news-cyclone...
Newcrest's profits are up 148pc, but what have they donated?

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/newcrest-half-year-profit-up-148pc/story-e6frea6u-...

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Reply #28 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:32pm
 
So, the rich get richer, while the middle class get taxed?

And Gillard has the hide to boast a socialist-left background?


ahahahaha


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Re: Corporate flood donations, where are they?
Reply #29 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:33pm
 
Or have they donated, and it's just we haven't been told about it?

Cool Give it some thought guys...
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