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« Created by: mellie on: Feb 11th, 2011 at 7:09pm »

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Re: Donations to the QLD flood/cyclone appeal
Reply #45 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:44pm
 
The Queen and prince Charles have made individual 'secret' donations it appears, but is this ethical, given all government donations are supposed to be made public?

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LONDON—Buckingham Palace says Queen Elizabeth II has made a private donation to help relief efforts during the floods in Australia.

The palace said in a statement Wednesday that the funds will go to the Premier of Queensland’s flood relief appeal. It did not say how much the donation was.

The queen said last month in a statement that she has been following the news of the floods in Brisbane with great concern, and extended her sympathies to all affected.

Prime Minister David Cameron spoke to his Australian counterpart Julia Gillard earlier Wednesday by phone to express his sympathy on behalf of the British people.

His office said in a statement that Cameron told Gillard that Britain stands ready to offer any assistance needed.





http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/920866--queen-makes-private-donation-t...
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Re: Donations to the QLD flood/cyclone appeal
Reply #46 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:49pm
 
Well Felix, it appears you may be right, though whilst donors may remain anonymous,  doesn't the government have a duty to declare what's been donated to date?

The donation figure/tally itself?

For how else may we determine whether or not these private donations are being spent wisely, or do we just have to have faith in a premier Bligh who sat on funding the last time for over 5 years?

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The last time this happened, the donations well exceeded the damage bill, but at least the bill wasn't being paid for twice...here we have victims being taxed on top of these generous donations  again...

Grin Was this how Gillard had planned to restore some of the surplus?

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Re: Corporate flood donations, where are they?
Reply #47 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:56pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:33pm:
As for donating quietly, lovely theory there Felix, but according to our transparency laws, these government donations have to be declared to the public.

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You're thinking of POLITICAL PARTY donations
ANYONE can donate to a charity appeal WITHOUT a public declaration




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Re: Corporate flood donations, where are they?
Reply #48 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:58pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:39pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:18pm:
Felix wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 4:11pm:
I  think you will find that quite a lot have donated

thepremier.qld.gov.au/initiatives/disaster_recovery/donations.aspx


This said, then why the need for a tax, if like last time, it looks as though there will be enough for Bligh to sit on and collect interest for 5 years?



How come you repeatedly fail to understand that the appeals are for helping individuals who have been affected by distaster and that the levy is for repairing infrastructure?

Appeals = for people
Levy = for stuff that isnt people - like roads, schools, sewerage works, drains, govt buildings etc

It's quite simple really.
Although obviously not for you.



For the public, really?

Then explain this.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/in-cyclone-larry-donations-sitting...
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Re: Donations to the QLD flood/cyclone appeal
Reply #49 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 5:01pm
 
FIVE years after Cyclone Larry ripped through north Queensland, the State Government is still sitting on more than $700,000 donated by the public to help victims.

In 2006, Australians dug deep to donate $23 million to help devastated communities around Innisfail recover, but The Sunday Mail can reveal $703,000 is still sitting in government bank accounts.

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So, this said, is there any reason to believe they wont sit on it again this time?

Cool

Sorry, but I think this is a tax-rort,  Gillards special way of slogging victims with a tax that may not even be necessary,  .....has she even finished counting the donations yet?

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Re: Donations to the QLD flood/cyclone appeal
Reply #50 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 5:04pm
 
Sorry, but according to the donation declaration on the Queensland government page, the tally isn't adding up...re $700,000 already being in lieu..... 

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/in-cyclone-larry-donations-sitting...

Well, sucked in, Abbott tried to warn you all, and look what he copped for his trouble.

Enjoy!

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Gillard appoints chief to flood recovery taskforce
Reply #51 - Feb 9th, 2011 at 1:15pm
 
BER taskforce chief to help in recovery


THE man charged with cleaning up the government's controversial BER program, Brad Orgill, says meeting the dual objectives of value for money and a speedy implementation of the flood rebuilding package "is achievable".

Mr Orgill -- who heads up the Building the Education Revolution Implementation Taskforce -- was yesterday appointed by Julia Gillard as one of two federal nominated board members to the Queensland Reconstruction Authority, as part of the government's flood rebuilding oversight measures.

Mr Orgill said his work as chairman of the BER taskforce would enable him to ensure there was not a trade-off between time, money and quality with the $5.6 billion to be spent rebuilding flood and cyclone devastated areas in Queensland.

"The basis of the BER taskforce that I was appointed to was to focus on value-for-money outcomes, and clearly that experience is something I will take on to the reconstruction authority in terms of what we've learnt -- how to get the best outcomes when Commonwealth money is spent," he said. "I think that delivering both speed and value for money in large governmental projects is achievable."

Mr Orgill said he believed the key lessons learnt from the BER was that community consultation, transparency of decision-making and construction-sector engagement was crucial.

Mr Orgill said his eagerness to participate in the Queensland Reconstruction Authority was in part due to being deeply affected by the images of destruction from last month's floods. "I am pleased to do whatever Mick Slater thinks is useful to contribute to helping Queensland recover."

Major General Mick Slater is head of Queensland's Flood Recovery Taskforce. He said last week that a speedy reconstruction effort was essential. Speaking on the ABC's Lateline on Friday Major General Slater said: "My concern is that we get the money in a timely manner so that our reconstruction is not slowed down by having to wait for money".

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/queensland-floods/ber-taskforce-chief-t...
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Re: Gillard appoints chief to flood recovery taskforce
Reply #52 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:37pm
 

Nobody should worry.
In an historic moment of moving forward, Gillard will set up a citizens committee to investigate the viability of having a committee to investigate the viability of changing the program.
As well there will be a committee to ensure that the funding for the committee is spent responsibly.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/political-cat-fight-breaks-out-over-queenslan...
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Re: Gillard appoints chief to flood recovery taskforce
Reply #53 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:53pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:37pm:
Nobody should worry.
In an historic moment of moving forward, Gillard will set up a citizens committee to investigate the viability of having a committee to investigate the viability of changing the program.
As well there will be a committee to ensure that the funding for the committee is spent responsibly.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/political-cat-fight-breaks-out-over-queenslan...



Grin Grin Your killing me here Sprint,  Grin Grin and to think, these die hard Labor supporters will not even wake up sniff the junket/hypocrisy coming from their own cabinet...well, what's left of it anyway.
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Flood tax findings taken on face value?
Reply #54 - Feb 11th, 2011 at 2:16pm
 
The latest face-to-face Morgan Poll shows on a Two-Party preferred basis the ALP and L-NP are now equal - 50% each - a result similar to the telephone Morgan Poll conducted at the same time (February 1-3, 2011, L-NP - 50.5% cf. ALP - 49.5% and released last Friday, February 4). If a Federal election were held now it would be too close to call. The L-NP primary vote is 43% (up 0.5% from the telephone Morgan Poll of February 1-3, 2011) clearly ahead of the ALP 39% (up 4%), Support for the minor parties shows the Greens 12.5% (up 0.5%) and Others/ Independents 5.5% (down 5%). The Roy Morgan Government Confidence Rating is up 2.5 points to 125 - with slightly more Australians are confident that Australia is 'heading in the right direction,' (54%, up.0.5% ) and 29% (down 2%) saying Australia is 'heading in the wrong direction.
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I doubt this is the genuine consensus, given it's harder being ruthless (honest about how this tax stinks) face-to-face than it is on a more discrete poll.

Grin What a joke!

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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #55 - Feb 12th, 2011 at 8:14am
 
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Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax


When the Vast majority agree it is not really contentious.

I am quite happy to help the flood victims.

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previously used one-off levies to fund a gun buyback after a 1996 massacre in Tasmania, to protect staff entitlements after the 2001 collapse of airline Ansett, and to support the dairy and sugar industries.


This Levy is at least as justified as the previous ones under the Liberal government.

A contentious gun buy back.

A contentious bail out of Ansett managements responsibilities.

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Re: Corporate flood donations, where are they?
Reply #56 - Feb 12th, 2011 at 11:11am
 



mellie wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:32pm:
So, the rich get richer, while the middle class get taxed?

And Gillard has the hide to boast a socialist-left background?


ahahahaha


Grin



So, Mellie, what are you suggesting!?

Instead of imposing a levy of 0.5% on income between $50,000 and $100,000 and 1% on $100,000 and above - would you support imposing a higher levy, of say 1.5-2%, on those earning above $150,000 or maybe $200,000 or maybe $250,000!?

Isn't it the case, that: the current proposal affects less than 60% of Australians (taxpayers?) because most Aussies have incomes way below $50,000 - I expect that this would come as a surprise to many...if they bothered to consider why so many Aussies have incomes so far below the headline 'Average (Full-Time) Wage'!

BTW, you may recall that Howard/Costello's proposed 2007 tax cuts (which were mostly taken up by the Rudd/Gillard Govt) resulted in 80% of taxpayers with a marginal tax rate of only 30% - this is because only around 20% of taxpayers have incomes above $80,000)!

That belies Android's claim about being a 'middle income earner' - so much for the lucky and prosperous country, eh!?

That said, this does put the $50,000 and $100,000 levy thresholds back in to perspective - and the ludicrous nature of Howard and Costello's flattening of tax thresholds for the benefit of the elite few at the expense of the vast majority!

Meantime, I don't recall Mellie defining "middle income" for us to date...

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Newman slams flood aid delivery
Reply #57 - Feb 12th, 2011 at 11:47am
 
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PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has been accused of "breathtaking arrogance" by Lord Mayor Campbell Newman as a row over the funding of Queensland's flood repairs intensifies.

"This Prime Minister of ours has spent eight weeks waltzing around Queensland saying, 'There, there, it will be all right,' but it ain't right," Cr Newman said yesterday.

"How long does it take for Julia Gillard to come to a decision on a matter of policy and principle?"

The Federal Government has not revealed whether it will pay for damage to infrastructure including water, sewerage, and CityCat and ferry services.

Without federal funding, ratepayers face the prospect of surging utility bills.

Cr Newman said Queensland councils wanted a commitment that vital infrastructure currently exempt under federal disaster funding would be covered.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/newman-slams-flood-aid-delay/story-fn6ck51p-1...
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Re: Newman slams flood aid delivery
Reply #58 - Feb 12th, 2011 at 11:53am
 



mellie wrote on Feb 12th, 2011 at 11:47am:
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/02/10/1226004/026984-cat-fight.jpg

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has been accused of "breathtaking arrogance" by Lord Mayor Campbell Newman as a row over the funding of Queensland's flood repairs intensifies.

"This Prime Minister of ours has spent eight weeks waltzing around Queensland saying, 'There, there, it will be all right,' but it ain't right," Cr Newman said yesterday.

"How long does it take for Julia Gillard to come to a decision on a matter of policy and principle?"

The Federal Government has not revealed whether it will pay for damage to infrastructure including water, sewerage, and CityCat and ferry services.

Without federal funding, ratepayers face the prospect of surging utility bills.

Cr Newman said Queensland councils wanted a commitment that vital infrastructure currently exempt under federal disaster funding would be covered.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/newman-slams-flood-aid-delay/story-fn6ck51p-1...



FFS, people are blaming Gillard for purported policy indecision - when Abbott & Co have been doing the best to undermine the decisions already made by Gillard!?

Where are the calls for Abbott & Co to get over themselves and get out of the way of providing necessary Federal funding for essential (and desirable) restoration works!?

Go figure, eh!?


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Re: Newman slams flood aid delivery
Reply #59 - Feb 12th, 2011 at 12:01pm
 
She cant blame Abbott for everything, and or her wasting time appointing 'review panels' .... timely and costly bureaucracy to watch-over her own bureaucracy.

Perhaps her OCD, perfectionism is interfering with the timely delivery of policy, and rather than be seen to be making a single mistake, she's crawling around on egg shells waiting for independent review panels, to forensically examine more review panels, she appoints to review her own policies?

I think in a national disaster, we need to be realistic, this and stop blaming the coalition for her own incompetence, and just focus on  GETTING THE JOB DONE!

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