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Re: Donations to the QLD flood/cyclone appeal
Reply #60 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 2:43pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 5:01pm:
FIVE years after Cyclone Larry ripped through north Queensland, the State Government is still sitting on more than $700,000 donated by the public to help victims.

In 2006, Australians dug deep to donate $23 million to help devastated communities around Innisfail recover, but The Sunday Mail can reveal $703,000 is still sitting in government bank accounts.

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So, this said, is there any reason to believe they wont sit on it again this time?






SITTING on ?


The fund is STILL accepting - and paying out claims - as recently as last month

Typical Murdoch, tabloid
RUBBISH



It is now down to its last 3%




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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #61 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 3:42pm
 
So Buzz, being a full proud Australia who lives there and believes in the tax......


How much of it will you be paying?

Answer honestly please. How much?
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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #62 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:28pm
 
Still waiting Buzz

For someone who accused me of not paying tax in Australia and not caring about the place.

You live in Australia, there is a tax to help re-build the country.

How much will you pay?
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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #63 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:30pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:28pm:
Still waiting Buzz

For someone who accused me of not paying tax in Australia and not caring about the place.

You live in Australia, there is a tax to help re-build the country.

How much will you pay?


I'll pay whatever the legislation provides.  So will everyone else.  Why do you press the question?
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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #64 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:44pm
 
Look, both sides aren't perfect, are not unknown for their treachery grubbery, back-stabbing and political point-scoring,... though I think, this Labor government has been particularly negligent/hopeless  where it counts most.

You name it, they have failed to deliver....  at least Libs managed the economy, this and deliver disaster relief in a timely fashion, without turning it into an opportunistic tax-grabbing exercise.

5 years later, and Anna Bligh still hadn't completed delivering relief to victims of Cyclone Larry,(700,000 left over) ... preferring to sit on the hoard and collect the interest.

I find Gillards management of recent disasters, particularly sinister and bothersome.

And like so many charities are saying.... this will deter people from donating, because in their eyes, they already have, and by forced tax..

Like my mother said, at the end of this, she's looking at having paid about $2000 in tax, (as tiny as this seems), but had Gillard not imposed the forced-charity  tax, she would have probably donated twice as much.

Charity should begin at home, not with our government opportunistically tax- gouging victims for their own relief.

At least Howard managed Cyclone Larry, without imposing a tax, however small on the middle class, and poor victims of natural disaster.
Roll Eyes


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You name it, Labor have failed to deliver where it matters most...even when they had a majority government.


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I just spoke to my mother, and it seems, she will be paying about $3800 over 12 months.

I will add, she donated $5000 to cyclone Larry.

Needless to say, she's not a fan of forced-charity, this and based on principle alone she wont be donating this year given she feels she's already been taxed her donation.

Under this government, she's been less forthright with her cash, this and distrusts their capacity to deliver on account of how badly the funding was misappropriated last time.

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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #65 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:50pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:30pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:28pm:
Still waiting Buzz

For someone who accused me of not paying tax in Australia and not caring about the place.

You live in Australia, there is a tax to help re-build the country.

How much will you pay?


I'll pay whatever the legislation provides.  So will everyone else.  Why do you press the question?


Buzz is a hypocrite on such issues.

I was criticised by him for my tax contribution in Australia when he actually paid less than me!

He now supports a tax for the floods.
He'll most likely pay none.

If you are paying, then fair enough criticise away.

But is not poor form to demand this and that, but actually keep contributing nothing?

It's free loading at best.
Champagne socialism at worst.

"Pay for it? What me? No sorry I can't...."


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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #66 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:51pm
 
Aussie wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:30pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:28pm:
Still waiting Buzz

For someone who accused me of not paying tax in Australia and not caring about the place.

You live in Australia, there is a tax to help re-build the country.

How much will you pay?


I'll pay whatever the legislation provides.  So will everyone else.  Why do you press the question?






Andrei SERIOUSLY believes that retirees should have no say in Australia's direction - and your vote should carry more weight, the higher your income


Australia was simply a "cash cow" to him, for theyear it lasted it lasted
Through a legal tax scam, he was able to pay around eighty per cent of the tax on his income earned in Australia to the British Government - rather than contribute to THIS country

He has NO love for Australia
He has NO love for Australians





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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #67 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:54pm
 
Buzz has the classic socialist welfare mentality thingy happening ....Tax is ok, so long as he doesn't have to pay it.

Why should middle Australians and victims of disaster be forced to pay charity, the whole concept of charity is to give what you can afford, is this what Labor were worried about given most people cant afford to donate as much as they could under a well managed Liberal economy?

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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #68 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:03pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:54pm:
Buzz has the classic socialist welfare mentality thingy happening ....Tax is ok, so long as he doesn't have to pay it.






Would you put a PENSIONER in that same basket ?
I paid my designated rate of income tax over 37 years of FULL-TIME employment



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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #69 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:05pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:54pm:
Buzz has the classic socialist welfare mentality thingy happening ....Tax is ok, so long as he doesn't have to pay it.

Why should middle Australians and victims of disaster be forced to pay charity, the whole concept of charity is to give what you can afford, is this what Labor were worried about given most people cant afford to donate as much as they could under a well managed Liberal economy?






What "charity" ?
It's essential INFRASTRUCTURE funding


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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #70 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:08pm
 
mellie wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:54pm:
Buzz has the classic socialist welfare mentality thingy happening ....Tax is ok, so long as he doesn't have to pay it.




100 points Mellie!

In a nutshell this is Buzz and his kind.

Full of ideas but refuse to pay for any of it and instead hand those of us in the middle incomes the cheque!

Flood tax. Yes please but I won't pay.
Carbon tax. Yes please but I won't pay.
Increase welfare for the unemployed? Yes please but I won't pay.
More money for hospitals and schools. Yes please but I won't pay.

Let's tax other people for it.....

Buzz is the worst kind of Australian.
Wants everything. Doesn't want to pay for any of it.

Disgrace.

How anyone in their right mind can criticise a guy that paid MORE than he did, well the mind boggles.

We paid $8k per month Buzz.
Did you?

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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #71 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:09pm
 
REPOST ...


buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:16pm:
Let's be HONEST, here ...


The pros and cons of this levy have
BUGGER ALL
to do with
AFFORDABILITY
to pay - but based on "principle and
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY


Up to 50K pa you pay
NOTHING

The AVERAGE income of 65K pa, you pay
under 21 CENTS a day





I would challenge ANYONE to declare this levy will affect their finances ?




It should ALSO be noted ...


This TWENTY ONE cents a day is
7%
of the value of the last range of tax CUTS under this government






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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #72 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:12pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:51pm:
Through a legal tax scam, he was able to pay around eighty per cent of the tax on his income earned in Australia to the British Government - rather than contribute to THIS country




a) A SCAM is illegal.
b) The state of Guernsey tax authority is independent from the British Government and decided by the Island. Hence the tax rate.
c) It was not 80%.


Feel free to get other things WRONG too.
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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #73 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:13pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:09pm:
REPOST ...


buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 11th, 2011 at 3:16pm:
Let's be HONEST, here ...


The pros and cons of this levy have
BUGGER ALL
to do with
AFFORDABILITY
to pay - but based on "principle and
POLITICAL IDEOLOGY


Up to 50K pa you pay
NOTHING

The AVERAGE income of 65K pa, you pay
under 21 CENTS a day





I would challenge ANYONE to declare this levy will affect their finances ?




It should ALSO be noted ...


This TWENTY ONE cents a day is
7%
of the value of the last range of tax CUTS under this government









REPOST -


HOW MUCH WILL YOU PAY?
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Re: Australia PM introduces contentious floods tax
Reply #74 - Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:16pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 6:03pm:
mellie wrote on Feb 13th, 2011 at 5:54pm:
Buzz has the classic socialist welfare mentality thingy happening ....Tax is ok, so long as he doesn't have to pay it.





Would you put a PENSIONER in that same basket ?
I paid my designated rate of income tax over 37 years of FULL-TIME employment





But I bet you would be complaining if you had to fork out for it now, this and were still paying tax.

This and had a family to provide for at the same time.

Fact is... it was unnecessary, this government thinks little of family's and middle income earners.

Socialism is supposed to be about robbing the rich to give to the poor, not robbing middle class to give a little to the poor but most to the rich.

Who do you suppose is cashing in on the re-development of QLD?

Cool  Investors are rubbing their hands together...well and truly.

Why are funds taking their time?

Because those who really matter want their money up front!

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