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Re: Feminism
Reply #75 - Mar 13^th, 2011 at 3:38pm

... wrote on Mar 8^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 6^th, 2011 at 1:34pm:

Amadd .. wtf are you on about now? You're starting to sound like some time traveller who's turned up from the Dark Ages.

Men AND women should work together as a team in ALL matters and this pertains to business as well as personal relationship contexts.

We all differ in terms of personal characteristics, personal experiences, individual talents, strengths and weaknesses etc etc.

For this very reason we ALL WIN IF we pull our heads in and co operate. That means we POOL/SHARE whatever personal/material resources we have so as to achieve a WIN-WIN OUTCOME.

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Agreed....but a team in which everyone only wants to play as full forward isn't much of a team at all. A good team needs to people to know their roles, and to play them well. This is why each party needs to learn, enhance and exploit their aptitudes, for the good of the team. This is what I've been saying all along.

WELL GUESS WHAT? That's what I've been trying to say too!

The only qualification I would add is that I don't appreciate someone who knows SFA about me as a person .. or anything much about my life taking it upon themselves to generalize and make assumptions about who I am, who I should be .. and what role/s THEY think I should be fulfilling.

All that matters is that I know what I am capable of, I know what type of lifestyle I wish to lead, I know where my talents and aptitudes and interests lie.. and I know what works well btwn my husband and myself as a team because we co operate and consult each other about everything.

When someone from outside our domestic sphere thinks they can start telling us what limits they think apply to us .. it kinda gets us a tad upset and defensive. Oh and we consider it to be inappropriate and condescending too.

You following Wesley?

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Re: Feminism
Reply #76 - Mar 13^th, 2011 at 3:53pm

And just in case ANY person feels the sudden urge to rush in here again and brand me a feminist suffering penis envy syndrome .. PLEASE NOTE .. I am a happily married conservative traditional European theist female.

I also live in the real world of today .. where as a Generation X woman .. I have the choice to hold a MODERATE view of the above core values which I hold dearly and identify with .. thus enabling me to lead a happy and fulfilled life.

IMO .. life is too short to be anything but happy and fulfilled.

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Feminism Reply #77 - Mar 14^th, 2011 at 1:21am Your as fulfilled as the next one, no doubt about that.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Feminism Reply #78 - Mar 14^th, 2011 at 2:19am Yes AG?
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Re: Feminism
Reply #79 - Mar 14^th, 2011 at 11:17am

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 13^th, 2011 at 3:38pm:

... wrote on Mar 8^th, 2011 at 10:31am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 6^th, 2011 at 1:34pm:

Amadd .. wtf are you on about now? You're starting to sound like some time traveller who's turned up from the Dark Ages.

Men AND women should work together as a team in ALL matters and this pertains to business as well as personal relationship contexts.

We all differ in terms of personal characteristics, personal experiences, individual talents, strengths and weaknesses etc etc.

For this very reason we ALL WIN IF we pull our heads in and co operate. That means we POOL/SHARE whatever personal/material resources we have so as to achieve a WIN-WIN OUTCOME.

sighs ...

Agreed....but a team in which everyone only wants to play as full forward isn't much of a team at all. A good team needs to people to know their roles, and to play them well. This is why each party needs to learn, enhance and exploit their aptitudes, for the good of the team. This is what I've been saying all along.

WELL GUESS WHAT? That's what I've been trying to say too!

The only qualification I would add is that I don't appreciate someone who knows SFA about me as a person .. or anything much about my life taking it upon themselves to generalize and make assumptions about who I am, who I should be .. and what role/s THEY think I should be fulfilling.

All that matters is that I know what I am capable of, I know what type of lifestyle I wish to lead, I know where my talents and aptitudes and interests lie.. and I know what works well btwn my husband and myself as a team because we co operate and consult each other about everything.

When someone from outside our domestic sphere thinks they can start telling us what limits they think apply to us .. it kinda gets us a tad upset and defensive. Oh and we consider it to be inappropriate and condescending too.

You following Wesley?

OK.

But since we're being all open, I don't appreciate my attempts at discussing the topic being dismissed with little more than 'you're from the dark ages' and 'the ignorance/stupidity of some men is incredible' and then having the nerve to talk down to me like I'm a small child.
A little more time outlining and discussing your POV, and a little less time insulting others would be nice, thanks.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Feminism Reply #80 - Mar 14^th, 2011 at 12:40pm Hmm .. I think this medium is restrictive .. and in many ways. We're not getting the full message. And we respond on parts of messages. Our comments over the past 24 hrs have made me realize this. Thanks for being open. I really appreciated it.
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Re: Feminism
Reply #81 - Mar 18^th, 2011 at 4:51pm

Having worked (sorta) 'with' a Private Maternity Ward.
I couldn't help but notice all the 'Career' orientated women desperately going for children at the last moment in regards to 'age'.

If a Feminist is a woman who seeks career/power/wealth/etc
over having children, being a full-time mother
...then why do women like Nicole Kidman get to live in denial about making for the career then having some other woman get the stretch marks for her with these 'surrogate' babies.
Me thinks her 'mind-frame' isn't that of a 'mother' anyway - so why bother?

Personally I think Germaine Greer is a fruitloop.
I've worked for many a female Boss with no problems at all. Sometimes I've enjoyed it.
I just find it difficult to contend with women who can't make up their minds or accept the fact about the Feminist empowerment or Motherhood/HouseWife.

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Re: Feminism
Reply #82 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 5:33am

Yeah well, we live in a capitalistic nation.
This ain't no "please and thankyou" outfit my lovelies. Blood gets spilt, entrails go all over the joint.
So get over it real quick. This ain't no please and thankyou outfit my lovelies. We expect you to have your entrails strawn over the battlefield in the name of equality.

We need you to fight for us my lovelies. We need you to spill your entrails for us. Can you do it? Do you have the heart?

Spill your guts all over the battlefields ladies, that's what you have fought for.
Now ...puhleasse..just do it.

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Feminism Reply #83 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 5:41am C'monnnnn...you're weak as piss. Just do it ladies. Do it for us men while we sit and play Xbox. Spill your guts for us, If you don't do it, then you don't really love us sensitive men Grow some balls you weak ladies...puhleaasse Shout out like you got a pair!!!
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Re: Feminism
Reply #84 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 9:07am

I think you've missed the point of Women being in the Armed Forces,
let alone other Services Amadd.

My wife is a Security Guard: Besides being better at handling 'naughty' kids than Males are, they tend to spot 'faults' in everything, as all women tend to do (don't you agree Wink

) so chances are, my Wife would spot a 'hole' in the Prison, if you know what I mean Wink

Its like the case of the little dog shouts the warning for the BIG DOG to lay in the bite.

I worked as a Nurse in a female dominated industry. Thats where I learn't that women can stand around and do nothing while looking beautiful while I had to work double the workload to compensate.
So I now laugh as to why Men don't want Women in the Armed Forces (not that it takes much strength to pull a trigger Roll Eyes

) - because they now have to "Sound Up" for chivalry and work harder and do "whats right" rather than short-cut to what's cheatingly wrong.

I now work in a Process Plant where some guys don't like how women are 'bludgers'. Who cares what women do and don't do. I think these guys need to 'toughen' up and just get on with it. One of them is ex-military. He's already tried to start a fight with me, but I just 'tripled' my work pace/load as if he too was a woman. So he stands around looking tough while I work (too easy Cool

) my way to a possible $700 a day promotion. Grin

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Re: Feminism
Reply #85 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 3:20pm

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I think you've missed the point of Women being in the Armed Forces,
let alone other Services Amadd.

Actually, I was highlighting the point that there are different roles to perform. But let's not call it equality, because it's not.

Realistically, we aren't going to accept women's blood on the battlefield as do some other nations who have appalling rights for women.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Feminism Reply #86 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 3:53pm Amadd .. different can still mean equal. I'm just talking in a general sense here. Women and men are different but equal. That is how I see it, that is how I love it .. that is how I live it. Our gender does not make us superior/inferior .. it makes us different... but we're still equal.
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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: Feminism Reply #87 - Mar 19^th, 2011 at 4:01pm If you like. I think that women have the greater ability to stop wars from occurring in the first place. I don't think that men are their equal in that department.
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Reply #88 - Mar 24^th, 2011 at 4:51am

Women will never attain a sense of 'greatness' that a man will ever achieve. Maybe its because they have too much on their plate in the name of being 'multi-skilled' to concentrate on the one thing that matters most? Grin

Don't get me wrong, Women will always pip many a man to the 'Dias of Greatness', but they will alway be pipped by another man in the end.
Women are SEXUALLY SUPERIOR to men. They can 'reproduce' physically and in some instances in the animal kingdom - "asexually" or 'virgin births'. They can last longer sexually and are not 'aged' by the act of sex as men are with each ejaculation. They can even have an orgasm while having childbirth.
Sure men can be sexually superior to many a woman, like a Porn star to a virgin frigid barren career orientated woman. But although a man can pip many a woman, on the sex game, there will always be a woman that pips the man in the end.

Fact: Its the male that chooses the sex of the child in the act of procreation. Just like it is the female who chooses the 'dream' for the male who sits around thinking "what can I do with my life?" or "why isn't my great invention working yet?" (most men don't give credit to women, or realise such "divine intervention" and just put it down to "...I discovered the answer to the problem by 'mistake'")

Who knows? With women in the armed forces, maybe the Military will 'wise up' and jilt Politics and save the Animals of the world before its too late? Now thats something worthwhile. Wink

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Re: Feminism
Reply #89 - Mar 24^th, 2011 at 10:49am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 4:51am:

Women will never attain a sense of 'greatness' that a man will ever achieve. Maybe its because they have too much on their plate in the name of being 'multi-skilled' to concentrate on the one thing that matters most? Grin

Don't get me wrong, Women will always pip many a man to the 'Dias of Greatness', but they will alway be pipped by another man in the end.
Women are SEXUALLY SUPERIOR to men. They can 'reproduce' physically and in some instances in the animal kingdom - "asexually" or 'virgin births'. They can last longer sexually and are not 'aged' by the act of sex as men are with each ejaculation. They can even have an orgasm while having childbirth.
Sure men can be sexually superior to many a woman, like a Porn star to a virgin frigid barren career orientated woman. But although a man can pip many a woman, on the sex game, there will always be a woman that pips the man in the end.

Fact: Its the male that chooses the sex of the child in the act of procreation. Just like it is the female who chooses the 'dream' for the male who sits around thinking "what can I do with my life?" or "why isn't my great invention working yet?" (most men don't give credit to women, or realise such "divine intervention" and just put it down to "...I discovered the answer to the problem by 'mistake'")

Who knows? With women in the armed forces, maybe the Military will 'wise up' and jilt Politics and save the Animals of the world before its too late? Now thats something worthwhile. Wink

Greens helping Greens = true love

No, I don't see the 'sexually superior' angle. Let's talk about humans here - both sexes are equally important. No woman can reproduce without a mans sperm, and no man can reproduce without a womans egg and womb to incubate it in. How can 1 be superior, when it is completely and utterly useless without the other? In the cases of asexual reproduction, you'll find that there is either only one gender, or that the organism can change genders to suit the conditions at the time.

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