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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing Reply #75 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:33pm I was beside myself with grief when my cat had to be put down at the vet when I was age 5, I understood exactly what was happening, and knew we were there to say goodbye to my Siamese cat Garnji...(my father named him, my parents bought him before I was born, he was 13).
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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing Reply #76 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:35pm I too think we should be more selective and culturally consistent with our nations intake of immigrants, so as to uphold our own nations culture and values.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing Reply #77 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:37pm mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:26pm: Alevine, grow up! Ignore the trolls guys. So do we ignore you then, cods?
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing Reply #78 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:39pm mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:35pm: I too think we should be more selective and culturally consistent with our nations intake of immigrants, so as to uphold our own nations culture and values. cods, in your opinion, what are the nation's culture and values?
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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #79 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations, not those we permit conditional membership at a nominal fee, so long as they toe the line with our trade agreements.

For christs sake, is that the best you have Buzz?

Here, enjoy your first history class, and if you weren't of migrant class yourself, you would already know this, and would not have used the above retort.

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Culture

Mostly due to their history of British rule, many Commonwealth nations possess certain identifiable traditions and customs that are elements of a shared Commonwealth culture. Examples include common sports such as cricket and rugby, driving on the left, the Westminster system of parliamentary democracy, common law, widespread use of the English language, designation of English as an official language, military and naval ranks, and the use of British rather than American spelling conventions (see English in the Commonwealth of Nations). None of these is universal amongst, nor exclusive to, the Commonwealth, but are more commonly found within its members than elsewhere.

When we speak of 'actual' commonwealth nations, we speak of nations which share our culture, ...similar sports, literature, colonial law, values, etc....

Lol, you are so lame sometimes buzz...your naivety astounds me.

Did you actually think because the commonwealth let India host their games after greasing our palms with a billion dollar bribe, that this made them one of us?

Grin

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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #80 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:56pm

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations, not those we permit conditional membership at a nominal fee, so long as they toe the line with our trade agreements.

For christs sake, is that the best you have Buzz?

Here, enjoy your first history class, and if you weren't of migrant class yourself, you would already know this, and would not have used the above retort.

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Culture

Mostly due to their history of British rule, many Commonwealth nations possess certain identifiable traditions and customs that are elements of a shared Commonwealth culture. Examples include common sports such as cricket and rugby, driving on the left, the Westminster system of parliamentary democracy, common law, widespread use of the English language, designation of English as an official language, military and naval ranks, and the use of British rather than American spelling conventions (see English in the Commonwealth of Nations). None of these is universal amongst, nor exclusive to, the Commonwealth, but are more commonly found within its members than elsewhere.

When we speak of 'actual' commonwealth nations, we speak of nations which share our culture, ...similar sports, literature, colonial law, values, etc....

Lol, you are so lame sometimes buzz...your naivety astounds me.

Did you actually think because the commonwealth let India host their games after greasing our palms with a billion dollar bribe, that this made them one of us?

Grin

GOLD!

doesn't really answer the question does it, cods? What's Australia's values and culture, in your opinion?

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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #81 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:00pm

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations

Actually, he was referring to the WHITE "Commonwealth nations"
(not that he'd ever ADMIT it)

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing Reply #82 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:01pm I am still waiting for you to answer my question,Alevine... re- Your inability to name one thing a Muslim country has done (without our help) to stamp-out terrorism in it's own nation. I asked you first... You made the statement, now back it up!
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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #83 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:04pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations

Actually, he was referring to the WHITE "Commonwealth nations"
(not that he'd ever ADMIT it)

Is it a crime wanting to be around people who share your culture?

White pride is nothing to be ashamed of, nor is black pride!

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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #84 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:07pm

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:01pm:

I am still waiting for you to answer my question,Alevine...

re- Your inability to name one thing a Muslim country has done (without our help) to stamp-out terrorism in it's own nation.

Cool

I asked you first...

You made the statement, now back it up!

I have:
http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=35910

You want me to cut and paste it here, would that suit you better?

Now, what are the Australian culture and values you are so desperately trying to protect, cods?

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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #85 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:08pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations

Actually, he was referring to the WHITE "Commonwealth nations"
(not that he'd ever ADMIT it)

Are you being racist, and implying only white people live in commonwealth nations?

Australia is traditionally a Commonwealth nation and we have all colours here.

But what should cement us together irrespective of creed or kind is our distinct Australian culture.

Buzz, On Australia day, did you fly the Australian flag?

I'll bet you didn't, and bet you sat inside with the sh1ts all day on the net abusing others who did.

Much like you are now.

Am I close?

If you want to feel a sense of belonging, start by wanting to.

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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #86 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:12pm

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:08pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations

Actually, he was referring to the WHITE "Commonwealth nations"
(not that he'd ever ADMIT it)

Are you being racist, and implying only white people live in commonwealth nations?

Australia is traditionally a Commonwealth nation and we have all colours here.

But what should cement us together irrespective of creed or kind is our distinct Australian culture.

Buzz, On Australia day, did you fly the Australian flag?

I'll bet you didn't, and bet you sat inside with the sh1t all day on the net abusing others who did.

Am I close?

Cool

cods, why can't you answer what our distinct culture is?

Irrespective of what you may think of my answer re: muslim blah blah, if you know the answer to this question then answer it! Prove me wrong!

Poor cods.

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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #87 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:16pm

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:04pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations

Actually, he was referring to the WHITE "Commonwealth nations"
(not that he'd ever ADMIT it)

Is it a crime wanting to be around people who share your culture?

Not at ALL
But I wouldn't outlaw someone who invited me to sample THEIRS
We've just played host to an American we met ten years ago on a forum, not unlike this one
He brought with him a friend from Japan, where he has been working as an English tutor

I find multi-cultural interaction SO enriching

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nichy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1812 Gender:	Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing Reply #88 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:19pm It can be buzz, but I suggest you read 'On Radji Beach', and you just might begin to understand why some Australians are sensitive to certain races.
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Re: Gillards grieving detention orphan, disturbing
Reply #89 - Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:19pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:16pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:04pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 1:00pm:

mellie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:52pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 12:29pm:

Equitist wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 11:09am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Feb 18^th, 2011 at 10:57am:

Thinking about it, I have only ever been to two funerals in my life.

One of them, bizarrely enough, was for a bloke I have never met.

We arrived in Townsville for a holiday and my wife's great uncle died. I ended up at his funeral. Until we got there and I saw the pic on the front, I didn't even know what he looked like.

It's a sorry state of affairs all around.

I feel sorry for these people but at the end of the day we cannot allow soft factors (as we call them in Finance management) to drive through policies which should be dictated by harder factors and economic argument.

Such is life you know. We can't have everyone in Australia.
These people need to play the hand they were dealt - not move to another table.

If you get my drift.

Yes, I do get your drift - but I doubt you get the ironic flightiness of your own comments...

You are suggesting that these families should have stayed put in a country beset by horrific circumstances - and stayed out of the boats - yet you proudly boast that your own family has country-shopped throughout your lives from a far more safe, prosperous and stable birthplace via planes...

Clearly, in your narrow world, some human beings are more equal than others - and some cannot hope to seek a re-deal because they've been dealt a crap hand of cards at a rigged casino table...

Andre believes our immigration intake should be from

"Commonwealth countries"

But he goes a bit coy when you remind him that

India is a part of that demographic

Buzz, you thick skull, he was referring to the "real commonwealth" nations

Actually, he was referring to the WHITE "Commonwealth nations"
(not that he'd ever ADMIT it)

Is it a crime wanting to be around people who share your culture?

Not at ALL
But I wouldn't outlaw someone who invited me to sample THEIRS
We've just played host to an American we met ten years ago on a forum, not unlike this one
He brought with him a friend from Japan, where he has been working as an English tutor

I find multi-cultural interaction SO enriching

Unfortunately bigots who can't even name the culture and values they are trying to uphold don't agree with you on multicultural interaction being enriching.

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