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The Question of Hijab and Choice
Feb 22nd, 2011 at 7:58am
 
The Question of Hijab and Choice
The discussion at the Islam Awareness Week exhibition started out nicely enough. We talked about women’s rights, domestic violence, sexual abuse, heavy, heavy issues. It was interesting, she was a feminist, and I, a Muslim woman. But we connected.
Then, as always, the topic turned to Hijab. She started out politely enough, complimenting me on mine and the way I wore it. She asked why I wore it. Faith and personal choice, I replied, the words practically a mantra now after speaking to several women about it in the past. But I began to feel that familiar knot in my stomach. I knew what the next question would be.
“As a feminist, I support your right to wear Hijab because it’s a choice. But if you really believe in choice, don’t you support the right of women NOT to wear Hijab in Iran, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, where Hijab is forced on women?”
I gulped. What could I say? I looked at my feet, and then looked up. She had me cornered.
“I just find it incredibly difficult to negotiate this question,” says Kathy Bullock, a Hijabi who completed a PhD. thesis on The Politics of the Veil from the University of Toronto’s Political Science Department in January.
Muslims and Liberals, especially those who are feminists, occasionally butt heads over this issue.
For liberals, Bullock explains, their views on Hijab are clear. “For them, even the mere fact that it’s a thorny question for us it’s a problem because for them the issue is clear: the individual has the right to dress as they choose.”
She notes that Muslims, on the other hand, do favor kind of state enforcement of Shariah, and by extension, Hijab.
The three countries most usually cited for Hijab enforcement are Afghanistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Hijab, more specifically the Burqa, has been enforced in Afghanistan since the Taliban took over major parts of the country in 1996 following years of civil war. The Burqa covers the entire body, head and face.
In Iran, Bullock says Hijab has been enforced since 1981, two years after the Islamic Revolution took over the country’s leadership, with the support of most Iranians.
In Saudi Arabia, Bullock says she knows of no exact law making Hijab mandatory in the state, but it seems custom, social and family pressure play a role in ensuring Hijab, as well as the Niqab or face covering, is worn.
In all three cases, some form of violence has been associated with not complying to Hijab in these countries, including beating and whipping.
The perception of many liberals is that Islam is violent, misogynist, and anti-personal choice, with an Islamic state ideally interfering in every aspect of its citizens’ lives.
A RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION-SOME POINTS
Jamal Badawi is part of the North American Fiqh Council. He notes that there is no precedent in Islamic teaching for state enforcement of HIjab. However, there is evidence of positive pressure and encouragement to wearing Islamic dress.
Badawi offers a few ways the “liberal” question can be answered:
1. WE DO NOT SUPPORT WHAT CONTRADICTS ISLAM
This point has to be mentioned at the outset, in order to set the guidelines for the response to this question.
“One cannot say I support the ‘right’ to disregard the teaching of Islam,” says Badawi in an interview with Sound Vision from his home in Halifax, Nova Scotia. “That’s the trick in this question.”
This is also important to remember because liberals do not view not wearing Hijab as a wrong.
2. WE SUPPORT THE RIGHT METHOD THOUGH
“What one can say safely is that we support the Prophetic approach in bringing about change as it was done in the matter of Hijab without resort to compulsion or force,” explains Badawi.”
Bullock agrees that it’s important to separate the obligation of Hijab from the violence that is often associated with its enforcement in some Muslim societies. She notes a Muslim should condemn violence, for example, but that it can be separated from the issue of Hijab enforcement by the state.
3. NO SOCIETY HAS ABSOLUTE FREEDOM
In response to the enforcement of Hijab in some Muslim countries, Badawi says:
”When we say choice, there is no even liberal democracy in our century that allows free choice in the absolute sense. For instance, even in the Western world if a woman or man wants to make a ‘choice’ of walking naked in a public place, we know that this is not regarded as an acceptable ‘choice’.”
“That shows that societies have the right to set reasonable limits on choices so as not to harm society at large or its ‘moral values’. It is in the same vain that it would not be inappropriate for an Islamic state to set those reasonable limits.”
Bullock suggests making parallels between dress cods in Muslim countries and Western countries. For instance, in most of the West, women cannot go topless on the streets (although it is legal in the Canadian province of Ontario).
4. IN AN ISLAMIC STATE THERE SHOULD BE CHOICE IN TYPE OF HIJAB
Badawi points out that Muslim states should allow for differences in interpretation of the Hijab, most notably, whether the face of a Muslim woman can remain uncovered or not.
“I must say that the reasonableness of those limits [on dress] should imply that no one particular interpretation should be forced on all so long as there is another legitimate interpretation,” he says.
“If there are these two Fiqh positions, nobody has the right to enforce stricter limits if there is another legitimate interpretation which excludes the covering of the face.”
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Reply #1 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 8:51am
 
I am all for the hijab and burqa. As a New Age Muslim my wife insists on me wearing the burqa on the very rare occasions when I am allowed to venture into the wider community (in the company of a female of course). My wife says that I must wear the burqa as an expression of my right to choose.
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Reply #2 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 9:21am
 
Faheem,

I thank you for your candour, and your willingness to make that frank admission, in your post [re the question from the feminist].

Thank you for talking about the 'politics' of the Hijab, in the way you have here.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #3 - Feb 22nd, 2011 at 10:16am
 
Faheem wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 7:58am:
The Question of Hijab and Choice

In Saudi Arabia, Bullock says she knows of no exact law making Hijab mandatory in the state, but it seems custom, social and family pressure play a role in ensuring Hijab, as well as the Niqab or face covering, is worn.
In all three cases, some form of violence has been associated with not complying to Hijab in these countries, including beating and whipping.
The perception of many liberals is that Islam is violent, misogynist, and anti-personal choice, with an Islamic state ideally interfering in every aspect of its citizens’ lives.
A RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION-SOME POINTS
Jamal Badawi is part of the North American Fiqh Council. He notes that there is no precedent in Islamic teaching for state enforcement of HIjab. However, there is evidence of positive pressure and encouragement to wearing Islamic dress.
Badawi offers a few ways the “liberal” question can be answered:



If this is so, if this is true...

#1,
The violence which is being perpetrated against individuals, for 'acting' against ISLAMIC principles [for doing something which is deemed to be, 'un-ISLAMIC'].

#2,
IF, ISLAMIC teaching does not promote 'enforcement' of ISLAMIC dress code for women.

Then, in this discussion, about the politics of wearing the Hijab , and 'choice', [particularly concerning non-moslem women], what do you propose that moslems THEMSELVES, should do, when not conforming to the 'custom' of wearing a head covering [for a woman], turns to violence???

WHAT ARE MOSLEMS, THEMSELVES, PREPARED TO DO ABOUT THIS 'APPARENT' VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN, WHO 'OFFEND' MOSLEM 'CUSTOM'?

Are moslem clerics prepared to issue a fatwah against such violence which is directed against miscreants who do not 'properly' wear a head covering ???

And if not, why not ???

Why won't moslem clerics issue a fatwah against such violence, and thereby make it clear to all moslems, that such violence is 'un-ISLAMIC' ???




Quote:
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1. WE DO NOT SUPPORT WHAT CONTRADICTS ISLAM



i.e.
He is speaking of actions, and lifestyles, which are deemed to be, 'un-ISLAMIC'.


THE TRUTH IS faheem
, that many people worldwide [and the victims are mostly 'moslems'], are killed every year, by good moslems, for daring to offend good moslems, by committing un-ISLAMIC acts, like;
women being un-veiled,
like listening to music,
by frequnting internet cafes, etc, etc.

How do you suggest, that MOSLEMS THEMSELVES should seek to curb such violence, BEING COMMITTED BY MOSLEMS ????




THE TRUTH IS [imo];
That moslems [and ISLAMIC doctrine] justify's violence, against all persons who act, in what is deemed to be an 'un-ISLAMIC' way.


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Reply #4 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 6:28am
 
The TRUTH is, that today ALL OVER THE WORLD, 'secular moslems' are the 'captives' of fundamentalist moslems, within their own communities.

'Secular moslems' are in 'bondage'  to the fundamentalist moslems.

That is why 'secular moslems' NEVER criticise those fundamentalist, so-called 'extremist' moslems, THOSE, WHO ARE LIVING ALONGSIDE THE 'MODERATE' MOSLEMS, WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES.

IMO, 'secular' moslems, within their own moslem communities, have the moral conviction of worms.

They are people who, when they see wickedness before their own eyes, they say nothing.


TRUTH, is a master.

And so is wickedness.

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?





The 'prophet' of ISLAM said that, a persons silence is [their] consent.

Google;
mohammed silence is consent



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Psalms 146:8
The LORD openeth the eyes of the blind: the LORD raiseth them that are bowed down: the LORD loveth the righteous:


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Re: The Question of Hijab and Choice
Reply #5 - Feb 23rd, 2011 at 7:25am
 
salad in wrote on Feb 22nd, 2011 at 8:51am:
I am all for the hijab and burqa. As a New Age Muslim my wife insists on me wearing the burqa on the very rare occasions when I am allowed to venture into the wider community (in the company of a female of course). My wife says that I must wear the burqa as an expression of my right to choose.


thats because your a woman ....and ugly. Just ask your wife. hehe
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