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Reply #45 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 1:11pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 11:46am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

These affirmative action programs, whether they be for gender, race, class, ethnicity, gays, or whatever other group, make a mockery of the principles liberal democracy supposedly stands upon. It sweeps away the notion of the importance of the individual over the group, in fact, it reverse it and places groups over individual merit.

The attempted abolition of a meritocracy via affirmative action is a euphemism for revenge against what is higher. The unskilled envy what the skilled possess.

Instead of knuckling down and disciplining yourself to be the best you can at what ever endeavour you want to be good at, the cunning will invent phrases like "affirmative action" as short cut to topple what is higher.

In short .. you're a male who finds equality threatening because you know damn well that these interventionist policies exist so as to engender EQUITY .. WITHOUT WHICH EQUALITY CANNOT EXIST!

Duh!

Nice way to put words in my mouth.

Answer this simple question: Do you believe you ought to get a job because you are female or because you have the appropriate skills for the job?

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Reply #46 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 1:59pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 1:11pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 11:46am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:

These affirmative action programs, whether they be for gender, race, class, ethnicity, gays, or whatever other group, make a mockery of the principles liberal democracy supposedly stands upon. It sweeps away the notion of the importance of the individual over the group, in fact, it reverse it and places groups over individual merit.

The attempted abolition of a meritocracy via affirmative action is a euphemism for revenge against what is higher. The unskilled envy what the skilled possess.

Instead of knuckling down and disciplining yourself to be the best you can at what ever endeavour you want to be good at, the cunning will invent phrases like "affirmative action" as short cut to topple what is higher.

In short .. you're a male who finds equality threatening because you know damn well that these interventionist policies exist so as to engender EQUITY .. WITHOUT WHICH EQUALITY CANNOT EXIST!

Duh!

Nice way to put words in my mouth.

Answer this simple question: Do you believe you ought to get a job because you are female or because you have the appropriate skills for the job?

Excuse me .. I've done what??? Put words in YOUR ignorant mouth???

Or have I merely commented on the ignorant state of your mouth???

Actually .. make that the ignorant state of your mouth given its pathetic state of convenient denial.

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Reply #47 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:02pm

Answer this simple question: Do you believe you ought to get a job because you are female or because you have the appropriate skills for the job?

- Time

How about YOU answer your simple question first. And believe you me .. it is indeed a very simple question.

After that .. I look forward to having you for lunch. I don't suffer fools lightly these days.

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Reply #49 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:27pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

Answer this simple question: Do you believe you ought to get a job because you are female or because you have the appropriate skills for the job?

- Time

How about YOU answer your simple question first. And believe you me .. it is indeed a very simple question.

After that .. I look forward to having you for lunch. I don't suffer fools lightly these days.

Well??? I haven't got all day you know.

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Reply #50 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:13pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:27pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

Answer this simple question: Do you believe you ought to get a job because you are female or because you have the appropriate skills for the job?

- Time

How about YOU answer your simple question first. And believe you me .. it is indeed a very simple question.

After that .. I look forward to having you for lunch. I don't suffer fools lightly these days.

Well??? I haven't got all day you know.

Lol. You come across as possessing the intelligence of a 4 year old, and the emotions of a 2 year old.

Enjoy your immaturity.

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Reply #51 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:56pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:27pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

Answer this simple question: Do you believe you ought to get a job because you are female or because you have the appropriate skills for the job?

- Time

How about YOU answer your simple question first. And believe you me .. it is indeed a very simple question.

After that .. I look forward to having you for lunch. I don't suffer fools lightly these days.

Well??? I haven't got all day you know.

Lol. You come across as possessing the intelligence of a 4 year old, and the emotions of a 2 year old.

Enjoy your immaturity.

In short .. you've realized that YOU cornered yourself. Now run along and play and don't interrupt adults when they're trying to have a discussion in future.

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Reply #52 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:02pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:27pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 2:02pm:

Answer this simple question: Do you believe you ought to get a job because you are female or because you have the appropriate skills for the job?

- Time

How about YOU answer your simple question first. And believe you me .. it is indeed a very simple question.

After that .. I look forward to having you for lunch. I don't suffer fools lightly these days.

Well??? I haven't got all day you know.

Lol. You come across as possessing the intelligence of a 4 year old, and the emotions of a 2 year old.

Enjoy your immaturity.

In short .. you've realized that YOU cornered yourself. Now run along and play and don't interrupt adults when they're trying to have a discussion in future.

BWHAHAHAHAHA. Okay.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: How humiliating for women Reply #53 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:02pm Ohhhh the irony!
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: How humiliating for women Reply #54 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:05pm Well .. answer the question then Time (instead of appearing and disappearing like a ghost and saying nothing but boo)! Oh and you probably should know .. I am ready to respond to whatever answer you think you've got.
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Reply #55 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:06pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:05pm:

Well .. answer the question then Time (instead of appearing and disappearing like a ghost and saying nothing but boo)!

Oh and you probably should know .. I am ready to respond to whatever answer you think you've got.

While you're waiting, theres 4 pages of questions you've avoided answerign already. Maybe get cracking on those first?

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Reply #56 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:08pm

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Amadd .. stop talking s.hit .. it doesn't suit you. Oh and read my previous reply .. it applies to you too!

Hmm...feisty! I like it

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In short .. you're a male who finds equality threatening because you know damn well that these interventionist policies exist so as to engender EQUITY .. WITHOUT WHICH EQUALITY CANNOT EXIST!

Duh!

International women's day has passed Lisa. It's time to try to be sensible again.

For one, as long as people are created with differences, there will never be equality.
Do you hear anybody whining about inequality because black men tend to be better at different sports than white men?
I'd love to win a gold medal at the olympics, but even if I were offered a handicap which allowed me to win one, I would not take it.

You on the other hand, seem to be quite happy to usurp whatever you can get your greedy hands on.

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Reply #57 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:11pm

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In short .. you're a male who finds equality threatening because you know damn well that these interventionist policies exist so as to engender EQUITY .. WITHOUT WHICH EQUALITY CANNOT EXIST!

Duh!

Why the hostility Lisa? If you've lived 40 years you must know by now that men and women don't share identical views.

You're not going to change that by getting angry.

Personally I'm glad that men think differently and it's OK for males to be sexist occasionally - I know I can be that way myself if I'm annoyed about something. You are being sexist also Lisa with those denigrating comments to Wesley & Time.

Admittedly the glass ceiling thingy in principle irks me - but it will eventually break altogether. Even if we've missed out on the experience - our daughters and grand-daughters won't.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: How humiliating for women Reply #58 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:25pm Hmm...feisty! I like it - Amadd LOL! Damn .. I forgot about that
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: How humiliating for women Reply #59 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:27pm International women's day has passed Lisa. It's time to try to be sensible again. For one, as long as people are created with differences, there will never be equality. - Amadd Men and women ARE EQUAL BUT DIFFERENT AMADD! You seem to think these are mutually exclusive for some strange reason.
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