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tallowood Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6048	islam and jews Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:04pm It was a joke that couple of Jewish Shepard boys play on the sick arab man mohamed that started the islam.
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Reply #1 - Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:36pm

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I'm not changing anything, they [jews] quite clearly have had no sovereign state there for about 2500 years, and for the past 1850~ years, they had no state at all, token or otherwise. Your own article overtly states this, that the Byzantines, Muslims, Crusaders then Muslims again were the ones who've had states there during the past 1850~ years.

There's Muslims still in Spain today, does that mean we still have a state there? Is Spain still ours? Should we boot all Spaniards out of their homes and into refugee camps on the doorsteps of France and Italy?

The point is – there was no Muslim state in Palestine when Israel was created. The last Muslim state in place there dissolved at the end of the First World War. SO the Jews didn’t take away a state from anyone as there was no state there.

There fore your Spanish analogy (and your usual Australian analogy) are irrelevant.

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Reply #2 - Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:37pm

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There's Muslims still in Spain today, does that mean we still have a state there? Is Spain still ours? Should we boot all Spaniards out of their homes and into refugee camps on the doorsteps of France and Italy?
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You have tried before and look at you sorry asses now.

No. You should submit to the will of your god and accept Israel as your god's will.

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Reply #3 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:31am

The point is – there was no Muslim state in Palestine when Israel was created. The last Muslim state in place there dissolved at the end of the First World War. SO the Jews didn’t take away a state from anyone as there was no state there.

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PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: islam and jews Reply #4 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am Quote: PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters. The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND! And that is a wonderful thing! You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"
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Reply #5 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 11:11am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

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PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"

1stly .. Palestinians were/are squatters. Nothing more.

2ndly .. re-read my post.

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Reply #6 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:04pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

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PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"

I think you will find many left at the behest of their Arab leaders prior to the Arab attack in 1948, being told they could return once the Israeli's were defeated.
But of course that never happened.
And don't get too caught up in any Israeli 'slaughter' of Palestinians.
The Israeli's are churchboys after comparing with what the Jordanians did during the Black Sepember massacres in 1970 in Jordan.
And this is a country who's King's wife is Palestinian, and 60% of the countries population is Palestinian.

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Reply #7 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:13pm

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There's Muslims still in Spain today, does that mean we still have a state there? Is Spain still ours? Should we boot all Spaniards out of their homes and into refugee camps on the doorsteps of France and Italy?

You have tried before and look at you sorry asses now.

No. You should submit to the will of your god and accept Israel as your god's will.

I must have been sick that day at school when they discussed the invasion of Spain by Australia, but judging from your post, you must have missed a lot more than I did.

I mean - ok the Brits and Germans invaded Spain. You just have to visit the Costa Del Sol and the Balearic Islands to find that out, but Australia?

The highlighted part makes absolutely no sense to me. Israel is a place where they have lots of computer hackers and cheap wine. I don't think they are particularly masters of anything.

I don't understand "god" either. It's a meaningless concept to me.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: islam and jews Reply #8 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 3:52pm LOL!
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Templar New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44 Perth Gender:	Re: islam and jews Reply #9 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 4:07pm Arguing who deserves the land is just a waste of time, fact jews now live in a place called israel in the mid-east, fact they aren't going any where. Give the palestinians the west bank and gaza then have nothing to do with each other for all I care. So much trouble over one tiny piece of lets face it unremarkable land.
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Reply #10 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:33pm

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Look bobby, the fact is Jews ceased ruling independently over the land 2500+ years ago, and as of 1850 years ago they were reduced to nothing but a tiny minority with no rulership at all. when the Muslims arrived there were no more Jews there than there was Jews in Arabia or Iraq or Egypt etc. This is simple historical fact you just can't seem to grasp, and your own links corroborate it. I'm not going to bother repeating it over and over, because you didn't comprehend it the first time. You are the one being stubborn here, stubbornly refusing to accept well established historical facts.

You're a sore loser, plain and simple.

Well, think of the jews returning to Israel as their way of emulating Mohammed who returned to Mecca after being kicked out. He returned with the sword and had his way. Same with the jews. They did a Mohammed on the Palestinians. Are you going to knock 'em for following your prophet's exmple? Not very Christian. er, Mohammedan of you.

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Reply #11 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:36pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:53am:

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PRECISELY! In fact the Palestinians were merely squatters.

The Jews have essentially returned to their original HOMELAND!

And that is a wonderful thing!

You call the slaughter of Palestinians and their mass forced eviction from their homeland a "wonderful thing?"

No different to Mohammed's 'massacres' - or whatever is the Islamic word for the mass murders ordered by Mohammed and his henchmen.
What is the Islamically PC word for the murders committed in the cause of spreading Islam?

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Reply #12 - Mar 10^th, 2011 at 9:12pm

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2011 at 8:33pm:

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Look bobby, the fact is Jews ceased ruling independently over the land 2500+ years ago, and as of 1850 years ago they were reduced to nothing but a tiny minority with no rulership at all. when the Muslims arrived there were no more Jews there than there was Jews in Arabia or Iraq or Egypt etc. This is simple historical fact you just can't seem to grasp, and your own links corroborate it. I'm not going to bother repeating it over and over, because you didn't comprehend it the first time. You are the one being stubborn here, stubbornly refusing to accept well established historical facts.

You're a sore loser, plain and simple.

Well, think of the jews returning to Israel as their way of emulating Mohammed who returned to Mecca after being kicked out. He returned with the sword and had his way. Same with the jews. They did a Mohammed on the Palestinians. Are you going to knock 'em for following your prophet's exmple? Not very Christian. er, Mohammedan of you.

Oh dear .. and you are so right too.

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Reply #13 - Mar 11^th, 2011 at 10:31am

tallowood wrote on Mar 9^th, 2011 at 8:37pm:

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There's Muslims still in Spain today, does that mean we still have a state there? Is Spain still ours? Should we boot all Spaniards out of their homes and into refugee camps on the doorsteps of France and Italy?
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You have tried before and look at you sorry asses now.

No. You should submit to the will of your god and accept Israel as your god's will.

Outstanding, post of the week. Grin

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Reply #14 - Mar 11^th, 2011 at 7:29pm

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When the Muslims arrived in Palestine, they wrote about a Byzantine Christian land.

Exactly. When they arrived in Palestine it was not a Muslim land but part of the existing Eastern Roman Empire. And yet the Muslim marooders had absolutely no scruples about overruning and subjugating it. You fvckers think that it's your god-given right to take by force whatever you want and are sh!tting bricks when nyone else (and especially the jews) do the same to you. What a bunch of hypochritical, conceited pr!cks.
So I think shut up and bugger orf is in order for you lot.

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