Sybella (not her real name) is 18 and on the run in Germany. She left home which in her culture means “she has lost honour”. Her family can restore their honour by killing her.
When she was 13 her family introduced her to a man for marriage. She refused time & time again.
When she was 17 her father said she was almost too old for marriage and said she must marry her cousin in Turkey whom she had never met. He beat her severely in front of all the family and then took her into another room and beat her some more, breaking her arm.
She ran away for the first time but returned after a while hoping things would improve.
Her father went to Turkey and started organising the wedding. When Sybella found out she left home again, this time asking the govt Office for Youth Welfare to help her.
She is living in hiding but is scared. She says her family are looking for her everywhere, continually harassing her friends who don’t know where she is. Turkish parents are marrying off a lot of young girls of 12 & 13. They arrange so-called Imam weddings, not legally registered of course, but to the muslim families this means
the marriage exists. In a survey of Turkish adults for the Ministry for Family Affairs carried out in 2004, 10% said they were living in a forced marriage. Young Turkish  people interviewed in Berlin said it was quite common among their friends. They didn’t like it but they had to put up with it otherwise something might happen.
Sybella has lost everything - family, friends, job - and lives with the constant worry that she will be found.

Many people here and elsewhere argue that Muslim migrants will eventually "fit in" as previous migrant groups have done. A lot of these people have their hearts in the right place but their brains are disengaged and their powers of perception are non-functional in respect to this issue. Turkish migrants have been in Germany for 60 years.
The English Defence League, which has 82,000 official members and many times that number in community support, has observed that whereas most migrant groups - Hindu, Sikh or other - have integrated well into Britain and respect its laws, many of the Islamic belief never do.
A survey of Muslim university students in Britain found that 37% wanted sharia law in force. There are 100 sharia law courts operating now in Britain outside the legal system.
The European Human Rights Commission has stated that sharia law is inconsistent with Western democratic principles.
Muslim pressure in some local areas has succeeded with such things as  banning the emblem of St George in certain schools  and  in changing the name of Christmas to Winter Festival.
Muslim youths have attacked British troops returning from service overseas.
The whole nature of society is under attack not just in Britain but in much of Europe.  By 2045 to 2050 it is estimated Muslims will outnumber the rest in Britain on present birthrates - the
same is true all over Europe where Muslim birthrates are 10 times that of other citizens, with men having multiple wives.

We don't have anywhere like the same problems here . . . .YET.
But why should we invite inevitable trouble when it can be easily prevented by stopping legal and illegal Muslim immigration now.

This is much like the Christian propaganda that does the rounds, no proof. You need to investigate who wrote the story and get some first hand proof that this event actually took place. We never get to see any live interviews from family or friends and they always happen in the far reaches of some little known place.

It happens but most of the stories are made up. People get murdered every day all over the world.

Australia has one of the highest rates of domestic violence in the western world so I wouldn't be taking the high moral road........glass houses!

I'll tell you one thing.........if I was living between a catholic priest and a Muslim man and I had an emergency, I sure as hell wouldn't be leaving my kid with the priest.


More Muslim bashing.....boring ho hum

buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 24^th, 2011 at 3:31pm:



Ohh right the juice do it so that makes it ok for muslims to sneak sharia courts in through an arbitration loophole.

The women dont understand their rights under UK law so the men push them to accept the rulings from sharia law.

One law for all campaign to get rid of these sharia courts that deprive muslim women of their rights.

Sign the petition to get rid of these barbaric religious laws from the dark ages in the link
www.onelawforall.org.uk/about

Just like Sybella I feel trapped by my religion. Once I became a New Age Muslim my wife told me I had to wear the burqa and I was not allowed to leave the kitchen sink unless there was a good excuse. The only danger we pose to the lifestyle of Australians is that we aim to smash every totem associated with the West. No more democracy, freedom of religion, gambling, R-rated movies and video games etc. So there isn't much to worry about with muslim immigration.

Extremism is a big problem in any religion or culture....however main stream Islam is a peaceful religion and should not be feared.....Those who support discrimination against Muslims are showing there extreme beliefs and support of continuing distrust and blind fear against moderate people....We need to accept we are all different and do not need to be the same or act the same.....What is wrong with society in Australia anyway, it works just fine???

It's against Islam to force someone into marriage. What happened with Sybella (if it did indeed occur - I can't find evidence) is a cultural issue, not a religious one.

salad in wrote on Mar 25^th, 2011 at 9:37am:


Germany Calls Time On Forced Marriages
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Underlining a new mood spreading across Europe, the German Parliament passed a law on March 3rd to make forced marriage a criminal offence carrying a five year prison sentence. The law also granted to non-German citizens who have been taken abroad against their will a legal right to return to Germany.

This is an example of a European government doing its job — creating and policing the non-negotiable framework within which other actors can get on with religious reform and cultural innovation and establish what the academic Bassam Tibi calls a “civil Islam” capable of accommodating cultural modernity.

Experts and support groups estimate that over one thousand women in Germany become victims of forced marriages each year. Although the facts have been long known due to the work of Serap Cileli (see film here), Halis Cicek, Sabatina James, Necla Kelek, and others, until now neither the government nor civil society had done much about it.

Forced marriage is only one expression of the suffocating and sometimes deadly male power exercised over many Muslim women in Germany.

A 2004 German study commissioned by the Ministry of Family Affairs, Senior Citizens, Women, and Youth found that 49 percent of Turkish women had experienced physical or sexual violence in their marriage, while a quarter of those married to Turkish husbands met their grooms on their wedding day. Half of these women felt pressured to marry partners selected by relatives and 17 percent felt forced into the partnership.

Some Muslim girls have been known to disappear from their schools to travel to Turkey and other Muslim countries to marry, having been told they were going on a holiday. A “bride-price” is negotiated and payment secures the right of the husband’s family to untrammelled patriarchal power over the girl and any children she bears.

Young Turkish women brought to Germany are sometimes kept as virtual house-slaves. “[They] don’t even know where they have been living for years,” says Katrin Fliess, a leader of a Munich-based women’s support group. Necla Kelek, author of a book about the forced marriages of Turkish migrants in Germany (Die fremde Braut or “The Foreign Bride”) has claimed that thousands of Anatolian women bought to Germany to marry German-Turkish men are modern-day slaves:

The typical import bride (import-gelin) is usually just 18 years old, comes from a village and has in four or six years barely learned how to read and write. She gets married off by her parents to a man she doesn’t know, but who is probably related, of Turkish origin, and living in Germany. After marriage she comes to a German city into a Turkish family. She lives exclusively in that family, does not have contact with people outside the Turkish community. Soon she will give birth to one, two, three children … She will live in Germany, but she will never arrive there.

A range of physical and psychological traumas have been associated with forced marriages.

The Turkish-German therapist Halis Cicek  wrote Traditionelle Vergewaltigung (“Traditional Rape”) about his experiences counseling the victims. His description of one patient shows why the new law was needed. “Her life is hell. Her husband beats her and rapes her. She wanted a divorce, but then her own father and her brother said they would come up here from Turkey and kill her. She is now about 30 years old. Her condition became so bad that she had to be hospitalised. Recently, she applied for a disability pension.”

Many Muslim girls lead double-lives because they fear the wrath of their families. A suicide prevention program had to be set up by the Berlin hospital Charité for young girls of Turkish origins with the message “end your silence, not your life.”

And some live life on the run under the protection of shelters and women’s organisations, such as the Peri Association for Human Rights and Integration.

Women who rebel risk much. When Hatun Sürücü , divorced the Turkish cousin she had been forced to marry at 16, enrolled in college, and began dating, she was killed by her three brothers. Hatin’s murder sparked a national debate only when a school teacher reported a group of 14-year-old Turkish boys mocking Hatin in class: “She only had herself to blame. She deserved what she got. The whore lived like a German.”

In 2005, Der Speigel reported that “The Turkish women’s organization Papatya has documented 40 instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996.” Among the cases, a Darmstadt girl killed by her two brothers who beat her to death with a hockey stick in April 2004 because she had slept with her boyfriend.

Why has Germany been so slow to protect these German girls?
http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/new/blogs/johnson/date/2011/3/22

Annie Anthrax (poisonous by name & by nature it seems), go to Deutsche Welle Media Centre, look up Newslink & listen to the interview.
Religion & Culture are the same thing in Islam.