Australian Politics Forum - The case against Islamic immigration

LifeMasque Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 223 Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #60 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 10:51am You have to admit the vast majority of Muslims in Oz are moderate. They got rid of Sheik al Hilaly very quickly for just having a cruel sense of humour.
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Reply #61 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:18am

I have no more objections against Islamic immigration into Australia, than I do against "believers" of other religions.

Whilst I am personally agnostic, I understand that other people have a right to their own beliefs.

So, on the assumption that people, of any belief structure (including religious) do not attempt to force their beliefs onto other people, either mentally or physically, then I am happy to welcome immigrants to Australia!

That said, there will most likely be a "fine line balancing act" on immigration levels, from all sources, over the next 20-40 years, due to a growing inability of Australia to provide the resources needed, such as Food, Water & Energy (Oil in particular), to sustain our total population.

This will need to be blanced against a Population growth that is now slowing, before finally going into decline, over the next 20-40 years and the relevant affects that all of this will have on Australia's Economic position.

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #62 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:00pm Quote: So, on the assumption that people, of any belief structure (including religious) do not attempt to force their beliefs onto other people, either mentally or physically, then I am happy to welcome immigrants to Australia! How do you feel about Mormon Missionaries getting visas approved?
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Reply #63 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:11pm

Grey wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:00pm:

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So, on the assumption that people, of any belief structure (including religious) do not attempt to force their beliefs onto other people, either mentally or physically, then I am happy to welcome immigrants to Australia!

How do you feel about Mormon Missionaries getting visas approved?

Yeah, I know, there are some many of those and they are so violent and militant. They are even prepared to blow up buses and bars and embassies if you draw a cartoon of Joseph Smith.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #64 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:26pm
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Re: The case against Islamic immigration
Reply #65 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:30pm

Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:11pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:00pm:

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So, on the assumption that people, of any belief structure (including religious) do not attempt to force their beliefs onto other people, either mentally or physically, then I am happy to welcome immigrants to Australia!

How do you feel about Mormon Missionaries getting visas approved?

Yeah, I know, there are some many of those and they are so violent and militant. They are even prepared to blow up buses and bars and embassies if you draw a cartoon of Joseph Smith.

Mormonism is a 'religion' started by a convicted felon and con man, who claimed angels gave him the rules written on gold tablets and took them back after he's read them. They encouraged a patriarchal, paedophilic, polygamy and their controlling methods have harmed untold families. They take money out of the Australian economy to enrich their elders and build their nauseously gaudy temples. At least Muslims don't knock on doors seeking to profit by wrecking families. And no I don't have any personal experience other than having to tell them to piss off. I don't like any religious bullshit and find Wahabists and Mormons to be the worst.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #66 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:33pm Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:26pm: Compare and contrast.
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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #67 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:46pm Quote: Compare and contrast 2 X idiot = 2 idiots
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Jaykaye_09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 583 Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #68 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:46pm Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:33pm: Soren wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:26pm: Compare and contrast. I see two whiny little girly-men. Both pretend to speak from a position of authority, neither do. The second might be calling a horse race, though I'm not 100% sure?
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Foolosophy Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1171 Australia Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #69 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 1:05pm Jakaye_09 You must understand the nuerotic affliction that pervades Soren's cranial cavity which is currently void of matter and energy.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: The case against Islamic immigration Reply #70 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 1:10pm
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Re: The case against Islamic immigration
Reply #71 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 1:21pm

Grey wrote on Mar 30^th, 2011 at 12:00pm:

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So, on the assumption that people, of any belief structure (including religious) do not attempt to force their beliefs onto other people, either mentally or physically, then I am happy to welcome immigrants to Australia!

How do you feel about Mormon Missionaries getting visas approved?

No different!

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Reply #72 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 2:31pm

I keep a special hatchet for Jehovah's Witnesses myself. Once they stood at the end of the driveway and sent a ten year old kid to give me the speil. What a great way to spend your weekends, as a kid. I told him to tell mum and dad that any religion where your parents didn't think his birthday was a cause for celebration was not one I cared to know any more about.

Mormans? Just keep plenty of porn and beer cans in your lounge. Satanic music optional. I had great success once with "Jezebel Spirit" from My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts by Byrne and Eno.

Another friend of mine had a bullet-riddled, blood and hair spattered statue of the virgin may in his entry hall, just as a conversation starter.

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Reply #73 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 9:29pm

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people who do not support the Australian flag essentially

What's it got to do with the flag?

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You have to admit the vast majority of Muslims in Oz are moderate.

Why do we have to admit that? And what do you mean by a moderate muslim? The same question was asked previously but no-one has come up with an answer.

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Re: The case against Islamic immigration
Reply #74 - Mar 30^th, 2011 at 11:10pm

As one Mormon said of his Religion: "We know our Religion is a peice of crap. But it was Made in America and thats something worth believing in."
I kinda admire these words. Sure a Holden may not be the best car out there, but its 'our car' and thats something worth driving.
Take into consideration that Religion in North America tends to take on a 'team spirit' (which makes you wonder about Australia's Religious future in contrast) for the 'mass' - of course it ain't gonna be 'top of the pyramid' stuff.

...I think Mormonism is the most prolific Religion in the States and I think it will adapt, change and eventually become 'the' North American Religion of choice.

...I'm sure we might have a Religion here in the deep, dark and cold abyss of Oceania, eventually Wink

as well. Something unique and distinctive from the 'old world' religions that are more reflective of Asia, Africa & Europe via the Middle-East. Something even more 'individual' than what Judaism tries to pull over Mohommedism and to a lesser extent, Christianity.

Funny how 'brown people' tend to be the less daggiest when it comes to Oz fashion, although the Moslem, Christian and Jew versions still wear the 'old clothes'.
I guess thats what its all about: shedding one's skin from one part of the world to another. Wink

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