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Re: The case against Islamic immigration
Reply #75 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 11:13pm
 
...you mean the case against Western Imperialist fascist racism
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Reply #76 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 8:19am
 
LifeMasque wrote on Mar 30th, 2011 at 10:51am:

You have to admit the vast majority of Muslims in Oz are moderate.






The term.....

'Moderate moslem' is an oxymoron.


It is a falsehood, a deception, a lie, which being perpetrated upon all non-moslem host communities,
by every moslem guest community.





Moslems are devoid of all respect for truth.

Because truth, reveals what every moslem is;

THE TRUTH
A moslem, is a person who chooses to embrace a philosophy [ISLAM] which tells moslems that it is 'lawful' for moslems, to kill those who do not believe, as they believe.





There is a popular supposition among many non-moslems in the West, that only 'ISLAMISTS' have violent tendencies.

Wrong!

THE TRUTH
All good moslems, are ISLAMISTS.

THE TRUTH IS;
There can never be a 'moderate moslem'.

BECAUSE, there is no moderate ISLAM.





Read the Koran and Hadith, you truth averse idiots.



BIGOTRY
"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems]
Koran 2.98

BIGOTRY
"....those who reject Allah have no protector." [inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems]
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

BIGOTRY
"......the curse of Allah is on those without Faith." [inciting moslem hatred of non-moslems]
Koran 2.089

BIGOTRY
"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  [inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems]
Koran 2.216

BIGOTRY
"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah:"  [inciting moslem hatred of non-moslems]
Koran 3.028

BIGOTRY
"Unbelievers are unto you open enemies."  [inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems]
Koran 4.101

BIGOTRY
"O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?"  [inciting moslem hatred of non-moslems]
Koran 4.144

BIGOTRY
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "  [inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems]
Koran 9.29

BIGOTRY
"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed."   [inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems]
Koran 9.73
Koran 66.9

BIGOTRY
"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."   [inciting and motivating moslem violence against non-moslems]
Koran 9.123

BIGOTRY
"Do the Unbelievers think that they can take My servants as protectors besides Me? Verily We have prepared Hell for the Unbelievers for (their) entertainment." [inciting moslem hatred of non-moslems]
Koran 18.102

BIGOTRY
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other......"  [encouraging moslem solidarity, but inciting hatred of non-moslems]
Koran 48.029

BIGOTRY
"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76  [inciting moslem hatred of non-moslems]

BIGOTRY
The Hadith,
"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

BIGOTRY
"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

etc, etc, etc. 100's more verses which expose moslem intolerance, against those who do not believe as they believe.



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Re: The case against Islamic immigration
Reply #77 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 8:43am
 
LifeMasque wrote on Mar 30th, 2011 at 10:51am:

You have to admit the vast majority of Muslims in Oz are moderate.






ISLAM THE 'RELIGION', IS A VEIL, BEHIND WHICH POLITICAL ISLAM CONCEALS ITSELF

What all non-moslems should realise about 'good' moslems is that;

When they are living within a 'tolerant', pluralist society, good moslems always, deceitfully, pretend to be liberal [tolerant],
....because they are politically weak.

But in those places where good moslems become politically strong, good moslems always reveal their intolerance, and violence towards those who do not believe, as they believe.

ISLAM is a violent, **deceitful**, death cult.

All good moslems who are residing in non-moslem host nations, have the nature [politically], of 'flags in the wind'.

i.e.
Publicly, good moslems residing in non-moslem host nations, studiously [when in the public eye] try to reflect the political environment in which they 'travel'.
i.e.
Today, a good moslem in Australia, may make the claim that he is 'moderate', and tolerant.

But when it suits their purpose [i.e. when Allah provides the 'opportunity'], or when the political environment changes to favour moslems, those good moslems residing in non-moslem host nations, will 'turn in the wind', and will always revert to being Jihadists [i.e. good moslems].

The truth is, that all good moslems who live within non-moslem jurisdictions, are not being sincere, candid, honest, in representing ISLAM, to their non-moslem hosts.




The Koran, speaking of non-moslems....

"Surely the vilest of animals, in Allah's sight, are the deaf, the dumb, who do not understand." [i.e. 'those who reject Faith', ISLAM]
Koran 8.20-23

"Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures."
Koran 98.6


Doesn't sound like respect and tolerance to me!





Many moslems openly, publicly, refer to non-moslems as the 'Kuffar'.

Kuffar is a derogatory term, which equates with the word faeces [poo].


WHAT TRUE, REAL, ISLAM, EXPRESSES TOWARDS NON-MOSLEMS....

Anjem Choudary - a UK moslem community leader.
Here on YOUTUBE, Anjem Choudary explains ISLAM's 'world view', to the dumb Kuffar;

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have *hatred* towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


AND;

Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

[Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad]
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...


N.B.
"...the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."





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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #78 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 10:59am
 
What about the Afghan traders who made Australia function in the early days? You know the ones the Ghan is named for ? Weren't they moderate?

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm
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Reply #79 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 11:28am
 
Grey wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 10:59am:
What about the Afghan traders who made Australia function in the early days? You know the ones the Ghan is named for ?
Weren't they moderate?


http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm




We are all constrained by the law of the land,    ...so long as it is daylight, so long as our conduct is being scrutinised.

And so it is, with all criminal elements in society.

Crimes of opportunity, are still committed by criminals, WHENEVER THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.

In walking on a busy city street in Australia, are you certain that you have never, unaware, passed by within a meter or so, of a murderer ?

Q.
Do criminals have signs on their forehead, identifying themselves ???

A.
No.



SO, how do we identify criminals ???

We look at their conduct.


Q.
What about moslems ???
How do i know that moslems are untrustworthy ???


A.
Look at how moslems behave [towards non-moslems] within majority moslem jurisdictions.

"If you want to know a man's character, give him power."

Abraham Lincoln


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THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

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Reply #80 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 11:51am
 
Grey wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 10:59am:
What about the Afghan traders who made Australia function in the early days? You know the ones the Ghan is named for ? Weren't they moderate?


Why do Islamic apologists say "most muslims are moderate"?

Do you ever hear these apologists say most jews/hundu/buddhists/christians/etc are moderate ?

As for those afghan camel herders they are responsible for the first terrorist attack in Australia so why do ignorant people like you ignore this fact?

January 1 ,1915
2 broken hill men,both former camel drivers,armed themselves with rifles and a homemade flag bearing Islamic insignia and launched a cowardly surprise attack on the picnic train about 3km outside of broken hill.

The 2 muslim men ,Gool Mohamed a Pashtun tribesman from afghanistan and Mullah ABdullah from Pakistan decided to wage Jihad against Australian infidels after Australia and the ottoman empire officially joined the opposite sides in WW1.
Both men had planned to die and left notes outlining that they had to become martyrs in defending their faith and the caliphate.

2 people were killed and 6 were wounded in this typical cowardly act of Islamic terrorism on a passenger train.

Typical of retards listening to the bullshit as muslims try to rewrite history and do you really believe it was these "afghans" who made australia function as you claimed in your post?

Read more here
http://islammonitor.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1917&catid=...

These early afghan camel herders killed people in Jihad and you claim they were moderate.

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Reply #81 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:01pm
 
Muslims are quick to cry discrimination whenever they dont get their own way.

If a muslim discriminates against non muslims they think that is ok.

Islam is rife with double standards they calim they gave women rights so ask them why does a woman need 4 male witnesses to prove she has been raped.

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Reply #82 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:19pm
 
I think it's pretty clear who the jihadis are around here  Grin
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Reply #83 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:36pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Islam is rife with double standards they calim they gave women rights so ask them why does a woman need 4 male witnesses to prove she has been raped.




Because women within ISLAM, are liberated from oppression.
/sarc off

Women in ISLAMIC jurisdictions are sooooooooooo liberated from 'oppression', that women who are raped are terrified to report such crimes.

Married women within ISLAMIC jurisdictions who report incidents rape, are invariably charged with adultery [the punishment under Sharia, for adultery is stoning, to death].

Within Sharia jurisdictions, these women are charged with adultery, because they have admitted to sex outside the marriage bed, AND, they are unable to produce the four MALE witness to the rape.

And moslem males refer to these circumstances as, 'women's liberation from oppression'.


Google;
islam liberates women


Google;
islam frees women from oppression


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Reply #84 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:49pm
 
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Reply #85 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:53pm
 
Grey wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:19pm:

I think it's pretty clear who the jihadis are around here
  Grin




Yadda 'translates';

PEOPLE WHO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM SHOULD BE DENIGRATED, CASTIGATED, AND CENSURED,
.....BECAUSE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM, MAY CAUSE SOCIAL 'DISHARMONY'.


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Reply #86 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:06pm
 
Yadda wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:53pm:
Grey wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:19pm:

I think it's pretty clear who the jihadis are around here
 Grin




Yadda 'translates';

PEOPLE WHO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM SHOULD BE DENIGRATED, CASTIGATED, AND CENSURED,
.....BECAUSE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM, MAY CAUSE SOCIAL 'DISHARMONY'.


Grey 'translates' - People who criticise mainstream Islam should get the beam out of their own eye.

(and stop being so shouty)
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Reply #87 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:24pm
 
Grey wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:06pm:

Grey 'translates' - People who criticise mainstream Islam should get the beam out of their own eye.




Good advice.

YOU RAGING HYPOCRITE.




The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia explains, 'MAINSTREAM ISLAM'.....

This is a legal pronouncement by the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Abdel Aziz al-Sheikh [the ISLAMIC equivalent of 'The Archbishop of Canterbury' in Saudi Arabia], read what he had to say about conducting the Jihad against 'unbelievers'...

Creed of the sword
September 23, 2006
...the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, [how to Jihad, to spread the influence of ISLAM].
...Saudi Arabia's most senior cleric...explained that war was never Islam's...first choice: "[ISLAM gives unbelievers] three options:
(1) either accept Islam, or
(2) surrender and pay tax, [OR] according to the Grand Mufti, the
(3) third option of violence against non-Muslims was only a last resort, if they refused to convert or surrender peacefully to the armies of Islam.
...[he states,] "Those who read the Koran and the Sunnah can understand the facts."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/creed-of-the-sword/story-e6frg6n6-111111225...




"...violence against non-Muslims was only a last resort, if they refused to convert or surrender peacefully to the armies of Islam."


It is so comforting, knowing that moslems are really so 'peacefully' inclined.
/sarc off





"Muhammad...[has] declared all of Islam, anywhere in the world, to be a political and military state against all non-Muslims, regardless of the non-Muslims' political, geographical, or national origins."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/vijay-kumar-the-muslim-mosque-a-state-within-a...






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Reply #88 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 1:28pm
 
Grey wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 12:19pm:
I think it's pretty clear who the jihadis are around here  Grin


The Islamic apologists who have never read the Quran and hadiths stand out in this forum.

These apologists like you use words like "moderate" to describe muslims.
The Quran calls these people hypocrites it does not call them "moderates" if you had bothered to read it you may discover this fact.
http://quran.com/9/73
There is no such thing as a moderate muslim in the Quran they are called hypocrites.

With Islam you cannot pick and choose which bits to follow you have to follow the whole package Quran 2:85 says you end up in the hellfire for picking and choosing which parts to believe in.
http://quran.com/2/85

The Quran mentions boiling water 17 times for the purpose of torture yet not even once does it say boiling water makes it safe to drink.

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Reply #89 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 4:03pm
 
Numbers 31:17, 40
[Verse 17, Moses says:] "Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

[Verse 40:] The persons [women who had not known man by lying with him] were sixteen thousand, of which the Lord's tribute was thirty-two persons.

Exodus
[21:7-8] "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do."

[22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

[22:20] "He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

God's enthusiastic endorsement of child abuse.
Proverbs 23:13-14

Do not withhold discipline from a child. If you beat him with a rod, he will not die. If you beat him with the rod, you will save his life from Sheol.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father; or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, "This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard." Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Peaceful ol' Jesus -
Matthew 10:34-35

"Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man's foes will be those of his own household."

The bible teaches respect for women.
Judges 19:22-29

As they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, base fellows, beset the house round about, beating on the door; and they said to the old man, the master of the house, "Bring out the man who came into your house, that we may know him." And the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, "No, my brethren, do not act so wickedly; seeing that this man has come into my house, do not do this vile thing. Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing."

But the men would not listen to him. So the man seized his concubine, and put her out to them; and they knew her, and abused her all night until the morning. And as the dawn began to break, they let her go. And as morning appeared, the woman came and fell down at the door of the man's house where her master was, till it was light. And her master rose up in the morning, and when he opened the doors of the house and went out to go on his way, behold, there was his concubine lying at the door of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, "Get up, let us be going." But there was no answer. Then he put her upon the ass; and the man rose up and went away to his home. And when he entered his house, he took a knife, and laying hold of his concubine, he divided her, limb by limb, into twelve pieces, and sent her throughout all the territory of Israel.

EXTERMINATE - EXTERMINATE - WE ARE GOD"S PEOPLE - EXTERMINATE

   You must destroy all the nations the LORD your God hands over to you.  Show them no mercy and do not worship their gods.  If you do, they will trap you.  Perhaps you will think to yourselves, 'How can we ever conquer these nations that are so much more powerful than we are?'  But don't be afraid of them!  Just remember what the LORD your God did to Pharaoh and to all the land of Egypt.  Remember the great terrors the LORD your God sent against them.  You saw it all with your own eyes!  And remember the miraculous signs and wonders, and the amazing power he used when he brought you out of Egypt.  The LORD your God will use this same power against the people you fear.  And then the LORD your God will send hornets to drive out the few survivors still hiding from you!  "No, do not be afraid of those nations, for the LORD your God is among you, and he is a great and awesome God.  The LORD your God will drive those nations out ahead of you little by little.  You will not clear them away all at once, for if you did, the wild animals would multiply too quickly for you.  But the LORD your God will hand them over to you.  He will throw them into complete confusion until they are destroyed.  He will put their kings in your power, and you will erase their names from the face of the earth. No one will be able to stand against you, and you will destroy them all.   (Deuteronomy 7:16-24 NLT)

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