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Are these the Biblical end times ?
Mar 26th, 2011 at 1:09pm
 

Words can paint a picture in our mind.

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Are these days the Biblical end times ?

Luke 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

'...as it was in the days of Noe'  ???

Genesis 6:5
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
11  ....and the earth was filled with violence.

Jesus speaking to the Jewish people [Matthew 15:22-24], told his followers to watch the times.

But also, he told them not be fearful or alarmed, as the time of their redemption approached.

Matthew 24:32
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.



I believe, that the God of Israel will reveal himself to Judah, and save him.

At that time, many among the other tribes of men will see this, and finally repent.

Isaiah 25:7
And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.

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The God of Israel is going to bring the Jewish people 'to heel'.

The moslem nations, who today surround Israel, are certain, that they will destroy the Jewish state.
On that day, they will be certain, that their generation will be the destroyers of the Jewish state, and of the Jewish people.

Psalms 83:4
They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

But on that day, those who come against Israel will be the victims of the blood bath.

"Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:
Therefore, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.
...Because thou hast said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas the LORD was there:
...And thou shalt know that I am the LORD, and that I have heard all thy blasphemies which thou hast spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, They are laid desolate, they are given us to consume.
Thus with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them."
Ezekiel 35

N.B.
"...with your mouth ye have boasted against me, and have multiplied your words against me: I have heard them."

Q.
Who, is greater than the God of Israel ???

A.
Ask a moslem.



The world community will be outraged, at the massacre of so many of those who, for so long, have hated and persecuted the Jewish people.

Jezreel is set up.

Isaiah 57:13
When thou criest, let thy companies deliver thee; but the wind shall carry them all away; vanity shall take them: but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain;
14  And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people.



What 'sort' of man does a righteous God abhor ??

Proverbs 21:24
Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath.

Psalms 10:3
For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.



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Where should we go, what should we do ?

Proverbs 3:34
Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.

Revelation 3:2
Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
3  Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent.

Psalms 34:18
The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

Isaiah 57:15
For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Isaiah 26:20
Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21  For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

Daniel 12:1
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

Amos 5:18
Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Are these the Biblical end times ?
Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2011 at 1:44pm
 
Doubtful Yadda....

None of the precursor conditions have been met...
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Reply #2 - Mar 26th, 2011 at 4:08pm
 
Revelation was a message to specific groups of Christians in Asia Minor (7 settlements in total) not to assimilate into the Roman imperial culture. It has to be taken in the concept of the day.  John's message (not the apostle John) was that the contemporary Greco-Roman society was beastly, demonic and subject to divine judgment.

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During a discussion about Revelation on 23 August 2006, Pope Benedict XVI remarked: "The seer of Patmos, identified with the apostle, is granted a series of visions meant to reassure the Christians of Asia amid the persecutions and trials of the end of the first century.


http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=20995

Many theologians agree that Revelation has no eschatological implications past the first few hundred years of the first  Millennium CE.
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Re: Are these the Biblical end times ?
Reply #3 - Mar 26th, 2011 at 4:45pm
 
Hey Yadda -
you stole my thread title:  Smiley

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1298455599/0#0
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Reply #4 - Mar 26th, 2011 at 10:31pm
 
muso wrote on Mar 26th, 2011 at 4:08pm:
Revelation was a message to specific groups of Christians in Asia Minor (7 settlements in total) not to assimilate into the Roman imperial culture. It has to be taken in the concept of the day.  John's message (not the apostle John) was that the contemporary Greco-Roman society was beastly, demonic and subject to divine judgment.

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During a discussion about Revelation on 23 August 2006, Pope Benedict XVI remarked: "The seer of Patmos, identified with the apostle, is granted a series of visions meant to reassure the Christians of Asia amid the persecutions and trials of the end of the first century.


http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=20995

Many theologians agree that Revelation has no eschatological implications past the first few hundred years of the first  Millennium CE.


interesting...

"Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry, Jr" (The Book of Revelation and Eschatology) arrive at the following conclusions:

In conclusion, I believe that Revelation was written in about A.D. 65. I further believe that it speaks to the original Christian audience regarding difficulties they were facing and in explanation of the coming final removal of Jerusalem by God’s wrath.


The book is to be understood
preteristically, rather than futuristically
. We learn this not only from the imminent expectation in the book, but also from its theme (which involves the judgment of the Jews) and due to its leading characters: Jerusalem (as a harlot) and Rome (as a Beast).


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Reply #5 - Mar 26th, 2011 at 11:17pm
 
What a pity we have to refer to the most ancient account. That no New Bible has been, to update the times. No new news, men, or prophets.

And don't for a second say all these old words are surely eternal, as if gospel, when may be a lens through human eyes.

If WW1 and WWII and the threat of WWIII ain't the "End Times,' I''d love to hate to know what is.

And if Revs is not future. what of the devil was laid to rest 1000 years in the millennium of peace then he was let loose again?
 Seems the milllenium is dawning, to me.

 It is the endtimes and man avoided the worst, for his goodness, may be the answer.
 Someone said to me long ago Revs was a warning for mankind. That if he didn't change, that would happen.
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Reply #6 - Mar 26th, 2011 at 11:35pm
 
Superman1 wrote on Mar 26th, 2011 at 11:17pm:
What a pity we have to refer to the most ancient account. That no New Bible has been, to update the times. No new news, men, or prophets.

And don't for a second say all these old words are surely eternal, as if gospel, when may be a lens through human eyes.

If WW1 and WWII and the threat of WWIII ain't the "End Times,' I''d love to hate to know what is.

And if Revs is not future. what of the devil was laid to rest 1000 years in the millenium of peace then he was let loose again?
 Seems the milllenium is dawning, to me.

 It is the endtimes and man avoided the worst, for his goodness, may be the answer.
 Someone said to me long ago Revs was a warning for mankind. That if he didn't change, that would happen.


Man has never changed - and there is little evidence to sugegst that he ever will

The ciritcal difference now is that the arsenal of weaponry at his disposal is sadly apocalyptical in nature.

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Reply #7 - Mar 27th, 2011 at 5:20am
 
Man has never changed - and there is little evidence to sugegst that he ever will

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the only constant in fact,is change.

this is the 3rd order of dimension/density in a state of duality.

cut off from your divine self.

the question is,can you make it back unto the LIGHT within you?

for his is the test you bestowed upon yourselves beloved ones..

this remains to be seen.

yours in CHRISTED LIGHT.

namaste

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Reply #8 - Mar 27th, 2011 at 5:24am
 
id foolosophy,

i hear/see many hopeless frequencies from your inputs here

on these pages we do confront each other upon in these now moments.

this is a reflection upon your individual level of consciousness

with forgiveness

namaste

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Reply #9 - Mar 27th, 2011 at 5:25am
 
What a pity we have to refer to the most ancient account. That no New Bible has been, to update the times. No new news, men, or prophets.

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those with eyes that do not see are forgiven

in CHRISTED LIGHT

namaste

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Reply #10 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 2:25pm
 
Then I forgive you, Light.

You are right we are cut off from our divine self. Tongue
In your opinion, why were we cut off in the first place?
Or were we created that way?
Because obviously Adam and Eve, like Genesis, is made up by man.

I was not saying all the Bible is bullshit. The NT is obviously a goldmine. The OT is often questionable.
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Reply #11 - Mar 28th, 2011 at 5:02pm
 
you have been incarnated of your own freewill,

you chose to experience this 3rd dimension,often

we do this as eternal beings of LIGHT yes

so as to keep grounded and have these fresh experiences.

in 3rd dimension before we go to higher dimensions,its cyclical.

then we drop down to the lower dimensions and start again.

we are eternal.

can you make your way back to your higher self?

maybe not this time but you will,fear not

that is the key do not fear,face these fears and dissolve these.

embrace LOVE and LIGHT.

and you will fare better than having not done so..

freewill..this will not effect unto me brother being,only you

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Reply #12 - Mar 29th, 2011 at 6:59am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Mar 26th, 2011 at 1:44pm:

Doubtful Yadda....

None of the precursor conditions have been met...




The 'signs of the times' are everywhere, and they are 'about us' gizmo.


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Luke 21:36
Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

"Watch ye therefore,..." ???

Those words of Jesus, were preceded by these...

Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35  For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.



Galatians 6:8
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

John 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Romans 6:16
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?




If there is a God, and if God is the master [creator] of us all, shouldn't we be trying to please our master ?


How ?

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


If there is a God, does God 'owe' us anything ?


Luke 17:7
But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?
8  And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?
9  Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.
10  So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Matthew 22:36
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[Deuteronomy 10:12]


Jesus heals ten lepers...

Luke 17:15
And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God,
16  And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan.
17  And Jesus answering said, Were there not ten cleansed? but where are the nine?
18  There are not found that returned to give glory to God, save this stranger.

After being healed, how many of the ten lepers, was worthy, was grateful, in finding 'liberty' from their affliction ?

Just one, in ten ?

God is the wise shepherd.
And we [mankind] are the dumb,  ....lost sheep, wandering in this world, lost in the world.



"...apparently we are all born spiritual and free, and then [this] life entraps us."

Frankie - LOVE MY WAY
My Family Up A Tree

Yep, we are spirits ensnared, and blinded, by our cares for the things of this world.

Matthew 6:21
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.



John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Matthew 24:38
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39  And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.



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Re: Are these the Biblical end times ?
Reply #13 - Mar 29th, 2011 at 10:16am
 
Foolosophy wrote on Mar 29th, 2011 at 10:07am:
Yadda's souless carcass yearns for the day that it will be reddled with the maggots of Nimrod

Until such time we must endure his bigoted ramblings and Apocalyptical one sided psychopathic nuerosis





Ah, such eloquence.

And, from one with such a moniker as 'she' has.




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Job 19:25
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26  And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27  Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
28  But ye should say, Why persecute we him, seeing the root of the matter is found in me?
29  Be ye afraid of the sword: for wrath bringeth the punishments of the sword, that ye may know there is a judgment.




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Reply #14 - Mar 29th, 2011 at 10:46am
 
Yadda,

Does thee ever quote the Talmudian verses?

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