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Reply #120 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:05am
 
warrigal wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:39am:
a lot of quoting multible posts here just makes the topic not make sense now.

trained and qualified Disability Care worker, and yet these Job networks I have had have deceided that I am unemployable and have deceided and arranged it with Centrelink that I should be put on a Disability support pension. I will NOT go On a DSP


That's weird, surely they can get you a job in that industry. Every second car on the road is from some DS service or another. It's a huge industry and growing. Stick to your guns, if you can and want to work, it's up to them to find you work, they get paid to do just that.

The government mangled the system by putting in a middle man or two (job agents and training companies) let them work for you. There used to be a time when you could go and talk to the employer and convince him that you were the person he was looking for. Don't back down. Unemployable ha! that's their cop out, not yours, don't wear it.

PS...watch longweekend, he's a nosy little parker, he'll have your name and address if you keep answering his questions.
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Reply #121 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 10:15am
 
thats the problem they refuse to help me and have arranged with Centrelink and their Phycologists to shove me on a DSP pension.
virtually telling me to be quite and sit on a pension.
I already have a pension concession card and yet I am unemployed, not a pensioner.
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Reply #122 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 11:32am
 
warrigal wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 10:15am:
thats the problem they refuse to help me and have arranged with Centrelink and their Phycologists to shove me on a DSP pension.
virtually telling me to be quite and sit on a pension.
I already have a pension concession card and yet I am unemployed, not a pensioner.


Yet the govt. were having a song and dance about getting people on a disability pension to go out to work.

So they want to put a non-disabled person on a disability pension but at the same time they want a person who is disabled to get a job.

It must make sense to someone but not me, but then again, I'm from the real world.

Can they actually force you to go on a pension? I suppose they can take your dole off you, that would do it.

You could try the ombudsman, they are like real world angels from what I've heard.
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Reply #123 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 12:04pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:05am:
warrigal wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:39am:
a lot of quoting multible posts here just makes the topic not make sense now.

trained and qualified Disability Care worker, and yet these Job networks I have had have deceided that I am unemployable and have deceided and arranged it with Centrelink that I should be put on a Disability support pension. I will NOT go On a DSP


That's weird, surely they can get you a job in that industry. Every second car on the road is from some DS service or another. It's a huge industry and growing. Stick to your guns, if you can and want to work, it's up to them to find you work, they get paid to do just that.

The government mangled the system by putting in a middle man or two (job agents and training companies) let them work for you. There used to be a time when you could go and talk to the employer and convince him that you were the person he was looking for. Don't back down. Unemployable ha! that's their cop out, not yours, don't wear it.

PS...watch longweekend, he's a nosy little parker, he'll have your name and address if you keep answering his questions.


yes tell him noithing. He is a spy who works for the liberal party and gets paid 20 cents per post and another 20 cents if he can identify any communists Wink
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Reply #124 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 12:12pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:51pm:
warrigal wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:35pm:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:56am:
The supply and demand curve operates in market economies.

You have the skills for "in demand" roles - you are more likely to get a job.

You get yourself a skill in a role which is not in demand, you are likely to sit on your arse.

EG - Getting a qualification in book-binding may have been good in the 1960s or as a machinist - probably isn't good now.
Unless you fancy moving to Bangalore.

Look at the high in-demand roles and choose your career wisely.

PS - what has me going to university have to do with anything??



That is the opinion of most in the employment industry

If they are university educated , that makes them think that they supreme to others out there, and the can't see the truth or facts.



Hardly, if someone walks through my door for an interview, I will look at WHAT they studied first, then I will look at their University and level of education and I will couple this with the experience they have to date in their employment for best fit.

For example if I want a Senior Finance Analyst (the last role I recruited) - I am obviously going to want someone who has a CA/CPA, Accounting/Economics degree and relevant experience to date.

So just saying "he went to university, he has the job" is not how I roll.

What use will an incredibly smart guy who has a BSc in BioChemisty be to me????


In Germany they wouldn't employ you because you don't have a science or engineering background. You are only useful in countries that don't make anything and rip people off on home loans !!
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Reply #125 - Jun 8th, 2012 at 3:35pm
 
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Put it this way with this situation that is just continuing for I will fight back , I will tear this Governememt and there welfare assistance providers apart.

So if long wkd end wants report me a a so called dole bludger, he can and then something will be done by centrelink to give me my life back, at present I stuck in limbo stuck between unemployment ( looking for Work) and a disability pension, with NO Job search services made available to me.

So back to the topic, Who should unemployed people vote for.
Well I was uemployed under the hawke/ keating labour governments, I was unemployed under the Howard liberal/ national government, I was unemployed under the Rudd/ julia governments.

so what is the solution, if governments do nothing to stop unemployment, unemployment will rare it ugly head and DESTROY more peoples lives, and it will even start to Destroy the lives of people with JOBS.

it has destroyed my parents lives as well as mine.

So as a country Australia we have high unemployment, but at the same time we have a skills shortage, but we won't train our people for the JOBS out there. And there are JOBs out their, their are employers screaming for workers. and yet their are JOB networks that refuse to help people, and put able bodied people like me onto a dsp pension.

if our country trained its workers, maybe the Gina Reinhardt mine development in WA wouldn't have to import overseas workers for it construction.

Just on the mining industry jobs boom, their is a small mine going to be built in my area of Maryborough QLD. so everyone here thinks their going to be able to get a good well paid mine job.

well I've been told by Job networks here in maryborough , that the only jobs that will go to locals are jobs in support and services (domestic cleaning of the mine accomodation building) and we've had training programs for the unemployed for that. All the mine workers for this local mine will be transfered in from another mine in central queensland.

so this hardly go's well for employment success in my area.

time for action Australia
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Reply #126 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:34am
 

When I turned 50 I moved interstate and never had another job for 15 years until retirement except a 3 month stint for a council.  I turned myself inside out to get a job. I think of the three quarters of a million wages I lost and curse Howard and his Ilk. People told me I wouldn't get a job after 50 but I didn't believe them, I do now.
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Reply #127 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:18pm
 
bludger wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:34am:
When I turned 50 I moved interstate and never had another job for 15 years until retirement except a 3 month stint for a council.  I turned myself inside out to get a job. I think of the three quarters of a million wages I lost and curse Howard and his Ilk. People told me I wouldn't get a job after 50 but I didn't believe them, I do now.


Most unemployed people don't. The age could have even dropped in the last couple of years. I've heard people that are just over 40 saying they're on the job scrapheap. What's more unfathomable is that it's their own generation that is closing them out.

The govt. need to get a good quality re-training program up and running. I don't mean the job agents/training shysters that run the show at the moment. It will cost, but hey! a busy population is a happy population. They might even miss a lot of the govt. inadequacies if they're out at work.
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Reply #128 - Jun 9th, 2012 at 4:41pm
 
bludger wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:34am:
When I turned 50 I moved interstate and never had another job for 15 years until retirement except a 3 month stint for a council.  I turned myself inside out to get a job. I think of the three quarters of a million wages I lost and curse Howard and his Ilk. People told me I wouldn't get a job after 50 but I didn't believe them, I do now.



That's terrible -
makes me worry about quitting my job.
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Reply #129 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:40am
 
Soren wrote on Mar 31st, 2011 at 10:15pm:
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Reply #130 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:44am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Apr 1st, 2011 at 7:22am:
Yadda yadda yadda.................................................

You forgot to mention sick people, of course they can't vote because they are a stain on society. Sick people don't contribute anything, they suck the funds with all their stupid expensive medication and time wasting care they need.

Only the strong and healthy can vote for they are the backbone of the country. And only those strong and healthy that are employed full time with at least 8 hours overtime chucked in. If they're not putting in overtime they are lazy and they don't deserve to vote.

Women who stay home to raise their family should not be able to vote, they can work just like any one else.....having babies doesn't stop them from working and they can do the overtime too fair is fair.

I'm sick of everyone thinking they have the right to vote, it makes me sick. As a matter of fact only those earning over $200,000 a year should get to vote, anyone earning less than that surely can't pay enough tax to give them the right to vote.

Those people who have worked for 30 years and paid taxes think they should get the freedom to vote, just because they get retrenched......no vote until they get the job and the overtime back.

I wonder why we have compulsory voting?


what a IGNORANT PIG you are with comments like this.
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Reply #131 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:50am
 
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You have the skills for "in demand" roles - you are more likely to get a job.

You get yourself a skill in a role which is not in demand, you are likely to sit on your arse.

Look at the high in-demand roles and choose your career wisely. [/quote]

How are you supposed to get the required skills if you can only acquire those skills from being employed and having a job? It's like a Catch-22 situation.

1. You need a job.

2. To get a job you need skills.

3. You can't get skills without previously being employed.

4. To get skills you need a job. Back to Square One!!!!!

Choose your career wisely? Basically what you're saying is, if a person makes the wrong choices in life, they end up in a dead-end and are doomed forever. [/quote]

said by a person with well paid employment. you really have no idea.
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Reply #132 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:01am
 
Look @ this idiot. He is blaming the victims for their plight. Says they get "just as much" on the dole as they would working. Well if that were only true who would work? Another lying politician trying to save face by blaming the victims. Guess he wont be voted in again.

I dont think it has anything to do with racism. If he is right about the money then why should anyone work for jobs that pay not even enough to pay your rent? If hes wrong (which he most prolly is) then he should address the issues - why is there no work in the area? Have all the businesses been closing down or something?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/welcome-to-bludgetown-western-sydney/story...

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THE deputy mayor of Bankstown has attacked his own constituents for being too lazy to find work, blaming "cultural traits" for having the highest unemployment rate of all Sydney council areas.

Allan Winterbottom believes the "demographic" and "nationality" in the suburbs of Greenacre, Punchbowl and Villawood showed residents there were more willing to accept government handouts than find employment.

"There are jobs out there but people have to want to work," Mr Winterbottom said. "I don't want to tell you what sort of people or nationality they are. But the culture is they get enough money to survive without working.

"We all know the problem - it's too easy on the dole. How do you encourage them to work when they get just as much on social security?"

According to the latest ABS data, people of Lebanese background made up the largest cultural group in Punchbowl (31.5 per cent) and Greenacre (27.8 per cent), while Villawood has a high proportion of people of Vietnamese background (13.8 per cent) as well as Lebanese (11.7 per cent).

The north-east of Bankstown has - at 11.6 per cent - the worst unemployment rates of all Sydney local areas.

But unemployment varies widely across the local government area, with some suburbs such as Padstow Heights enjoying low unemployment at 2.7 per cent compared to Villawood at 18.8 per cent.





Mr Winterbottom said a lack of English skills among people of migrant background, as well as fewer education opportunities among those communities, were also factors.

"I'm not anti different people. They certainly need more help, and the (unemployment) figures are terrible - more than triple the average."

Bankstown was closely followed by the south-west of Blacktown and east Fairfield, which both had unemployment levels above 11 per cent as of December.

Bankstown Mayor Khal Asfour said he was "happy" unemployment had dropped 0.5 per cent since the same period last year, even if it had been rising steadily from June when it was 10.8 per cent.

Blacktown Mayor Alan Pendleton said access to public transport was an issue, but motivation to find work was also an issue in his area.

"I'm not saying that everyone out here would take a job if they could get one tomorrow," Mr Pendleton said. "There are pockets of people there, families who have never worked, and it goes into generations."

In Fairfield, Mayor Frank Carbone said: "I believe that most people want to better themselves. I don't think anybody wants to stay at home earning $180 a week unemployment benefits."

Islamic Friendship Association chairman Keysar Trad said Mr Winterbottom should not be tarnishing an entire community with a "very, very narrow view."

Mr Trad said Muslims suffered from discrimination when it came to applying for jobs.

"I wonder if this gentleman has ever experienced discrimination in the workplace himself," he said.

"Certainly, people with a Muslim-sounding name are not given the same opportunities ... as people with an Anglo-sounding name."

Is the deputy mayor of Bankstown being racist? Or has he got it right? 


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Reply #133 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:13am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 12:18pm:
bludger wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:34am:
When I turned 50 I moved interstate and never had another job for 15 years until retirement except a 3 month stint for a council.  I turned myself inside out to get a job. I think of the three quarters of a million wages I lost and curse Howard and his Ilk. People told me I wouldn't get a job after 50 but I didn't believe them, I do now.


Most unemployed people don't. The age could have even dropped in the last couple of years. I've heard people that are just over 40 saying they're on the job scrapheap. What's more unfathomable is that it's their own generation that is closing them out.

The govt. need to get a good quality re-training program up and running. I don't mean the job agents/training shysters that run the show at the moment. It will cost, but hey! a busy population is a happy population. They might even miss a lot of the govt. inadequacies if they're out at work.



Its Not one political party or the other politcal party, Labour or Liberral nats, Its the people of Australia that create this Dole bludger mentallity towards the unemployed person.
From the hardest working lowest paid factory right up to the bank manager and the company CEO.
Your one of these people that only beleive that the unemployed are DOLE BLUDGERs.
this in cludes you adrei
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Reply #134 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 7:14am
 
From the telgraph aticle

Mr Winterbottom said a lack of English skills among people of migrant background, as well as fewer education opportunities among those communities, were also factors.

So Why isn't the Australian goverment , and the community of this deputy mayor, providing education programs, so there people can learn ENGLISH thus intergrating into society.
But what we see is these Migrant people comming into Australia and setting up ther own buisnesses and NOT intergrating into society.
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