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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #45 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 7:29am

Yadda wrote on Apr 1^st, 2011 at 7:01am:

"Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For?"

They shouldn't.

People on welfare, are the 'clients', of the state.

i.e.
Welfare recipients, are 'dependants' , they are not 'independents'.
???

Would you put Dracula in charge of the blood bank ???

Would you put lunatics, in charge of the asylum ???

[Oh silly me!!!
Ignore those last two Q's.
How foolish of me, expecting a rational intelligent response from you lot !!!! ]

IMO, only people who contribute to the state in some way [materially [taxes], or with some tangible service to the state] should be given the vote.

IMO, voting should not be a universal, unearned right.

IMO, in a democracy, voting should be a continually earned right.

IMO, both welfare recipients, and criminals, are two obvious groups, who should NOT have the right to vote to elect those who will make laws.

If people want the right to vote.

Let them earn the right to become bona fide citizens [who have earned the right to vote to elect those who will govern them].

Yadda, the Cheesy

What a load of absolute, unmitigated crap. Get back to Nazi Germany, such attitudes were acceptable there and then, NOT here and now.

Anyone, ANYONE who wants to take away MY right to vote because they
perceive me as somehow 'inferior' to them had better have a gun in their
hands, AND be prepared to use it.

Because you can make book on the fact that I will.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #46 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 7:33am Another thing......red haired people....no vote for them.....they always vote for Gillard or Hanson.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #47 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 11:23am Quote: But it must be remembered, people on welfare DO VOTE, don't they?. With unemployment at 5% i dont think any political party has to fear a backlash from these bludgers.
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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #48 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 11:35am

Kat wrote on Apr 1^st, 2011 at 7:29am:

Yadda wrote on Apr 1^st, 2011 at 7:01am:

"Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For?"

They shouldn't.

People on welfare, are the 'clients', of the state.

i.e.
Welfare recipients, are 'dependants' , they are not 'independents'.
???

Would you put Dracula in charge of the blood bank ???

Would you put lunatics, in charge of the asylum ???

[Oh silly me!!!
Ignore those last two Q's.
How foolish of me, expecting a rational intelligent response from you lot !!!! ]

IMO, only people who contribute to the state in some way [materially [taxes], or with some tangible service to the state] should be given the vote.

IMO, voting should not be a universal, unearned right.

IMO, in a democracy, voting should be a continually earned right.

IMO, both welfare recipients, and criminals, are two obvious groups, who should NOT have the right to vote to elect those who will make laws.

If people want the right to vote.

Let them earn the right to become bona fide citizens [who have earned the right to vote to elect those who will govern them].

Yadda, the Cheesy

What a load of absolute, unmitigated crap. Get back to Nazi Germany, such attitudes were acceptable there and then, NOT here and now.

Anyone, ANYONE who wants to take away MY right to vote because they
perceive me as somehow 'inferior' to them had better have a gun in their
hands, AND be prepared to use it.

Because you can make book on the fact that I will.

Yes - a person with real blood running thru them (which is a rarity in australia, nowadays.)

if you need your back watched, i'm there. and i'm a marksman.

j.

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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #49 - Apr 1^st, 2011 at 11:53am

djrbfm wrote on Apr 1^st, 2011 at 11:35am:

Kat wrote on Apr 1^st, 2011 at 7:29am:

What a load of absolute, unmitigated crap. Get back to Nazi Germany, such attitudes were acceptable there and then, NOT here and now.

Anyone, ANYONE who wants to take away MY right to vote because they
perceive me as somehow 'inferior' to them had better have a gun in their
hands, AND be prepared to use it.

Because you can make book on the fact that I will.

Yes - a person with real blood running thru them (which is a rarity in australia, nowadays.)

if you need your back watched, i'm there. and i'm a marksman.

j.

djrbfm,

Thank you.

Not for your offer. Wink

But for your expressed support, and for your obvious common sense, in a wholly 'senseless' modern world. Wink

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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #51 - May 12^th, 2011 at 8:11am

[quote author=muso link=1301515595/15#17 date=1301524560][quote author=warrigal link=1301515595/15#15 date=1301523654]To any one that works in a Australian Job Network Today, Get off your arse, Get out of the Office. You get out their and start kicking down doors, If some Ignorant Employer/ Worker gets in your way, throw them out of the WAY. And find out WHY they Can't Employ Unemployed Australian that are or arn't Skilled for the JOB :).[/quote]

Anyone who acts like that is an unemployable fruitloop. To answer the Topic title..... er ... Isn't there something more important to talk about? [/quote]

In response to your Comment whoever you are,

I have had 5 different JOB networks in the pass 4 years ( I am a fully Qualified Disability Care Worker , Study took 4 years to Complete I have then Volunteered in the Disability industry for a further 4 Years)

Not one of these 5 different Australian Job network in my City could find me employment In the Disability care industy, Dispite The Fact that in my Local City the Disbility Care agencys are screaming for workers.

So that is the situation I Face The Job Network refuse to help ME

IN Short , No Job Network or person that works at a Job network Has the right to Destroy peoples lives

Unemployment only has One purpose [b]IT DESTROYS PEOPLES LIVE
[b]

If you don't know what that is like then try living on $462 per ft/night

Thats living on $10 per day

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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #52 - May 12^th, 2011 at 8:17am

You attack me for saying we need to change and then write this?

Yes communities need to create more work for the local youth. It used to be a tradesman would have an apprentice as a duty to the community to pass on the skills.

Don't dream pensioners don't live like kings they do it hard and the genuine cases need more help than they get now. The others i spoke of are generally low socio and need help to get to work as they see no reason to do so. I have heard enough people on work for the dole crews talking about how they are going to get on the pension and won't have to do anything then. It is a mentality we have created by our welfare society thinking. [/quote]

Until and unless NoStart is raised to a realistic amount, then personally I don't blame them, if they can get away with it.

This is NOT their fault, it is the fault of the Govt, and the obscenely low NoStart rate. [/quote]

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The Disability Pensioners I have known and worked for over the pass 4 years Do live like Kings and they do nothing except cruise around and talk to people

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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #53 - May 12^th, 2011 at 9:03am

[quote author=soren2 link=1301515595/30#35 date=1301571197]Being unemployed in a booming economy with labour shortages to the extent that they have to get migrant workers to pick apples is a disgrace on every able bodies person on the dole.
The government offered a few thousand dollars for the 6 months + unemployed to go to WA or QLD where the mining jobs are. How many took up the offer?
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Well Here is the Solution Soren

Provide the Jobs in Australia and the training needed for those JOBS to the people that need Jobs, are that must be the Unemployed People of AUSTRALIA.
Then We won't have to import 12000 Skilled Workers into Australia

Funny that offer wasn't given to the Queensland Unemployed Workers

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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #54 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:20pm

Soren wrote on Mar 31^st, 2011 at 9:33pm:

Being unemployed in a booming economy with labour shortages to the extent that they have to get migrant workers to pick apples is a disgrace on every able bodies person on the dole.
The government offered a few thousand dollars for the 6 months + unemployed to go to WA or QLD where the mining jobs are. How many took up the offer?
5

NO buggerN IDE this person has

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #55 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:30pm Doesn't really matter WHO they vote for. No-one gives a flying smack about them. Or so it would seem.
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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #56 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 5:55pm

These are all Abbott aspirations, none of which the "Political class" has a hope in hell of ever implementing - their days of playing god with our lives are over - I am the sovereign Lord of my own mind. Besides, the political class has not got the Sand for a fight any more...their corruption is far too odious, far to deep and far to rotten for them to do anything but hope and pray it does not all come crashing down on their watch...
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #57 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:19pm Who should the people on welfare vote for?. For a fair go for the unemployed. Vote 1 Australian Greens, the fair and sensible people.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #58 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:24pm Yeh - we really want the red Greens in as the Government - of course we do....why settle for a nutjob like Abbott when we can have the real thing - the complete crackpots with a god complex who are the Greens...
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #59 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:33pm As far as I know I think the Australian Greens, support a fair and just increase in benefits for the unemployed. Liberal - ?????? Labor - ??????
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