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Reply #60 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:56pm

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As far as I know I think the Australian Greens, support a fair and just increase in benefits for the unemployed. Liberal - ?????? Sad

Labor - ?????? Sad

And "Voluntary" Euthanasia conducted by the state for the Elderly, the sick, disabled and other unproductive farm animals...not to mention forced relocation into the peoples countryside to till the earth... Never trust any government with an ideological doctrine, zealotry and a conviction they have all the answers and know whats best for you. Cool

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #61 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:57pm Quote: As far as I know I think the Australian Greens, support a fair and just increase in benefits for the unemployed. Liberal - ?????? Labor - ?????? maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #62 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:03pm Like work for the Government, Corporate wealthfare and their welfare while we starve on a bowl of rice per day - Longweakend and his hero Abbott are outrageous communists........
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #63 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:05pm Maybe if we have a Government who cannot ensure stability, security, freedom and justice without creating a corrupt police state - its time that Government was brought down.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #64 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:14pm maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work. There isn't, its for people that cant get work.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #65 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:33pm I still say if the Government cannot ensure stability, security and economic justice and avoid corruption - they have no right to Govern, no right to use force and need to be pushed out of power.
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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #66 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:57pm:

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As far as I know I think the Australian Greens, support a fair and just increase in benefits for the unemployed. Liberal - ?????? Sad

Labor - ?????? Sad

maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work.

Yeah, great idea. Perhaps as one last gesture they should be given a basic guide to burglary and then let loose on the community. Most of them will get busted and end up in the big house - but the extra extra expense of that will surely be worth the result of not paying them the dole if only to make a point out of the goodness of your christian heart.

As for forcing them into the workforce - no thanks - I don't want to work with - or be around - anybody that doesn't want to be there. That's counterproductive and in many cases, dangerous.

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #67 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:45pm because people who tend towards criminality are going to be dissuaded by recieving government handouts
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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #68 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:52pm

barnaby joe wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 7:45pm:

because people who tend towards criminality are dissasuaded by recieving government handouts

Not at all. I've tended towards (wallowed in) criminality since my mid teens despite spending most of my adult life on well above the average wage. I couldn't help myself. I didn't do it for the money (although that was a huge bonus), I did it because I enjoyed it.

But when people are desperate they do desperate things. All you're doing by cutting off the dole to some people (and they are a small minority of welfare recipients) is turning them into virtual junkies.

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Reply #69 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:36pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:57pm:

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As far as I know I think the Australian Greens, support a fair and just increase in benefits for the unemployed. Liberal - ?????? Sad

Labor - ?????? Sad

maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work.

This attitude probably shows why anyone unlucky enough to find themself unemployed can not affort to vote conservative - ever.

I remember standing in unemployment queues in the late 90's talking to ex conservative voters who had swallowed all the Liberal rhetoric about the unemployed bludgers who didn't want to work.

They were surprised by how difficult it could be to find employment and how few dole bludgers they could find.

The queues were filled with people just like them.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #70 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:48pm Get rid of corporate welfare and start a peoples bank if you want our support. We owe no allegiance to any party but screw with us and we will turn you out of power.
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Reply #71 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:54pm

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'Allowing people to stay on welfare when there is work they can reasonably do is the kindness that kills,'' Mr Abbott will tell the Queensland Chamber of Commerce.

''It's the misguided compassion that eventually breaks down the social fabric, as the more perceptive Aboriginal leaders have long recognised.''

Read those words then compare them to his words on continuing welfare for the high income earners and the health rebate.

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #72 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:08pm Abbott can shove his misguided compassion up his Red Communist 'rse...
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Reply #73 - Feb 19^th, 2012 at 9:48pm

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:57pm:

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As far as I know I think the Australian Greens, support a fair and just increase in benefits for the unemployed. Liberal - ?????? Sad

Labor - ?????? Sad

maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work.

This attitude probably shows why anyone unlucky enough to find themself unemployed can not affort to vote conservative - ever.

I remember standing in unemployment queues in the late 90's talking to ex conservative voters who had swallowed all the Liberal rhetoric about the unemployed bludgers who didn't want to work.

They were surprised by how difficult it could be to find employment and how few dole bludgers they could find.

The queues were filled with people just like them.

Exactly.

Until they've been there themselves, they haven't a clue....

I can remember the same sort of thing.

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Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For.
Reply #74 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:07am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 8:36pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2012 at 6:57pm:

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As far as I know I think the Australian Greens, support a fair and just increase in benefits for the unemployed. Liberal - ?????? Sad

Labor - ?????? Sad

maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work.

This attitude probably shows why anyone unlucky enough to find themself unemployed can not affort to vote conservative - ever.

I remember standing in unemployment queues in the late 90's talking to ex conservative voters who had swallowed all the Liberal rhetoric about the unemployed bludgers who didn't want to work.

They were surprised by how difficult it could be to find employment and how few dole bludgers they could find.

The queues were filled with people just like them.

the comment was directed to IMFULLOF IT who by his OWN ADMISSION has refused to work.

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