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blackadder Gold Member Offline Posts: 1977	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #75 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:12am maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work. Kat and dna you missed a word in the above. A very important word. Lets see if either of you can find it.
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Reply #76 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:24am

blackadder wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who

wont

work.

Kat and dna you missed a word in the above. A very important word. Lets see if either of you can find it.

I think it was intentionally ignored as it is dependant on an arbitrary ability of to correctly identify those in the category.

We have seen for decades that the conservative definition implies that those on unemployment benefits are dole bludgers who will not work.

The tag is liberally applied to all of them by many.

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Reply #77 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:38am

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

blackadder wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who

wont

work.

Kat and dna you missed a word in the above. A very important word. Lets see if either of you can find it.

I think it was intentionally ignored as it is dependant on an arbitrary ability of to correctly identify those in the category.

We have seen for decades that the conservative definition implies that those on unemployment benefits are dole bludgers who will not work.

The tag is liberally applied to all of them by many.

and despite your silly rhetoric, it has been the conservative parties that have maintained and exptedned the dole along with other welfare. or do you wish to pretend that dole bludgers such as IMFULLOFIT dont exist?

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Reply #78 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:46am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:24am:

blackadder wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who

wont

work.

Kat and dna you missed a word in the above. A very important word. Lets see if either of you can find it.

I think it was intentionally ignored as it is dependant on an arbitrary ability to correctly identify those in the category.

We have seen for decades that the conservative definition implies that those on unemployment benefits are dole bludgers who will not work.

The tag is liberally applied to all of them by many.

and despite your silly rhetoric, it has been the conservative parties that have maintained and exptedned the dole along with other welfare. or do you wish to pretend that dole bludgers such as IMFULLOFIT dont exist?

It would cost a hundred times the paltry amount saved to incorrectly identify the few who will not work.

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it has been the conservative parties that have maintained and extedned the dole along with other welfare

I would think there is little to no substance in that claim.

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blackadder Gold Member Offline Posts: 1977	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #79 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:52am It would cost a hundred times the poultry amount saved to incorrectly identify the few who will not work. Poul´try n. 1. Domestic fowls reared for the table, or for their eggs or feathers, such as cocks and hens, capons, turkeys, ducks, and geese.
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Reply #80 - Feb 20^th, 2012 at 9:20am

blackadder wrote on Feb 20^th, 2012 at 8:52am:

It would cost a hundred times the

poultry

amount saved to incorrectly identify the few who will not work.

Poul´try
n. 1. Domestic fowls reared for the table, or for their eggs or feathers, such as cocks and hens, capons,

turkeys

, ducks, and

geese

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No reference to you necessarily intended.

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Reply #81 - May 20^th, 2012 at 5:43am

[quote author=7D737E7C747E7B7B7A6D1F0 link=1301515595/75#75 date=1329689543]maybe there shouldnt be any welfare for people who wont work.

bumped, but I don't care

and who exactly WHO are these people that supposedly don't want to work.

if you are the unfortunate person that is unemployed, you need to have work, therefore they have to be able to work, and allowed by society to work.

The only people that beileive that unemployed people don't want to work, are these university educated drop kicks working as client managers in JOB networks in this great country of Australia.

What gives them the Right to have thoughts like that.

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Reply #82 - May 20^th, 2012 at 6:55am

As for forcing them into the workforce - no thanks - I don't want to work with - or be around - anybody that doesn't want to be there. That's counterproductive and in many cases, dangerous.
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Another person here that thinks they are above everyone else in society.

sorry you don't get a choice, you get people that need to work.

I look forward to taking you on in the work place, you ignorant prick

A baseball bat wrapped around your head will soon sort you out.

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Reply #83 - May 20^th, 2012 at 6:59am

What percentage of those on unemployment benefits are bludgers? It's neither here nor there. It's not a big deal considering the waste of money by those in power.

So what if a very minimal percent of peoples don't want to work, but choose to live on poverty level income. Let them. It's no skin off my nose, and if the governments, both state and federal were doing more to ensure jobs for everyone that wants one, these people would come unstuck. They get away with it because the government allows the unemployment situation to get out of control.

I won't be voting for libs or labs in their current state. I will vote for the senate only, because I can choose who I vote for without preferences being awarded to incompetent parties.

People on benefits should not vote for libs or labs, they will screw you!

Send a message.....Vote invalid!

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Reply #84 - May 20^th, 2012 at 7:06am

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So what if a very minimal percent of peoples don't want to work, but choose to live on poverty level income. Let them. It's no skin off my nose, and if the governments, both state and federal were doing more to ensure jobs for everyone that wants one, these people would come unstuck. They get away with it because the government allows the unemployment situation to get out of control.

NO one chooses to Live in poverty, it is what they get from a Uncaring society, depite that fact that we have great support in our welfare help organization etc.
salvation army, vinnies, st vincent de paul etc
there just can't archive enough to help people.

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Reply #85 - May 20^th, 2012 at 11:48pm

This mirrors the Abbott style of thinking. People on the dole are bludgers, people on disability pensions aren't really sick and if you grant parents money to help their school costs they'll go and spend it on the pokies. Abbott's contempt for low income people couldn't be better spelled out.

Meanwhile the conservatives, who claim to believe in small government and not interfering in people's lives, make plans to be more and more intrusive.

Rightwing governments do little of value except to put the boot into the people they hate.

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Reply #86 - May 21^st, 2012 at 7:02am

its not just one man Tony Abbott attitude.

It is everyone attitude from the worker in the lowest paid job in the factory ,right up to the bank manager and the CEO of a company.

they just want this stigma of the dole bludger

and why do we, have this stigma, because our government won't do anything about it, they won't train people for the job /Employment.

They have no respect in the value of people, or even finding out what the people are capable of doing in society.

its easier to say we have a unemployment problem, but we also have a skills shortage, but we call our people DOLE BLUDGERS

and WORK for the DOLE is a useless solution to the problem, they gain nothing by forcing the unemployed person to do WFD

would be better to provide them with a JOB.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #87 - May 21^st, 2012 at 8:44am <<would be better to provide them with a JOB.>> ............................................................................ That would be the ideal situation, but if the government can convince the masses that there are millions of dole bludgers out there it takes the heat off their incompetence.
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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Who Should The People On Welfare Vote For. Reply #88 - May 21^st, 2012 at 9:11am What are the ALP & the Green going to do about the Pokie venues, the fast food chains and the whorehouses they put in our suburbs? Nothing? Then why should people on welfare vote for a party that wants to kill them?
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Reply #89 - May 21^st, 2012 at 9:21am

corporate_whitey wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 9:11am:

What are the ALP & the Green going to do about the Pokie venues, the fast food chains and the whorehouses they put in our suburbs? Nothing? Then why should people on welfare vote for a party that wants to kill them?

The same thing the Libs will do, make revenue from them.

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