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Reply #75 - Sep 8th, 2012 at 4:14am
 
here is some info on the topic if the footy is over..

http://www.optcorp.com/edu/articleDetailEDU.aspx?aid=33

Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun? (Part 2)

So, in a second attempt, they will drop the Cassini probe (again, laden with plutonium) deep into Saturn's atmosphere in two years time, so this smaller gas giant can succeed where Jupiter failed…
By Ian O'Neill

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The story: The Lucifer Project is allegedly the biggest conspiracy theory NASA could possibly be involved in. First, back in 2003, the space agency (in co-operation with secret and powerful organizations)  .....

[ ie: satanic freemasonic types attempting to invoke

some twisted dark agenda while everyone was

watching footy . edit it_is_the_light ]

....dropped the Galileo probe deep into Jupiter's atmosphere. On board, was a significant quantity of plutonium. As the probe fell though the atmosphere, NASA hoped atmospheric pressures would create an implosion, generating a nuclear explosion thereby kick-starting a chain reaction, turning the gas giant into a second Sun. They failed. So, in a second attempt, they will drop the Cassini probe (again, laden with plutonium) deep into Saturn's atmosphere in two years time, so this smaller gas giant can succeed where Jupiter failed…


The reality: As investigated briefly in Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun? (Part 1), we looked at some of the technical problems behind Galileo and Cassini being used as makeshift nuclear weapons. They cannot generate an explosion for many reasons, but the main points are: 1) Tiny pellets of plutonium used to heat and power the probes are in separate, damage-proof cylinders. 2) The plutonium is not weapon grade, meaning the 238Pu makes a very inefficient fissionable fuel. 3) The probes will burn up and break apart, therefore disallowing any chance of lumps of plutonium forming "critical mass" (besides, there is no chance the plutonium could possibly form a configuration to create an implosion-triggered device).

OK, so Galileo and Cassini cannot be used as crude nuclear weapons. But say if there was a nuclear explosion inside Saturn? Could it cause a chain reaction in the core, creating a second Sun?

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Thermonuclear bombs

Unless nuclear fusion can be maintained within a stellar body, the reaction will very quickly fizz out. So the Lucifer Project proposes Cassini will plunge many hundreds of miles into the atmosphere of Saturn and explode as a crude plutonium-fuelled fission explosion. This explosion will cause a chain reaction, creating enough energy to trigger nuclear fusion inside the gas giant.

I can see where this idea has come from, even though it is inaccurate. The fusion bomb (or "thermonuclear weapon") uses a fission trigger to kick-start an uncontrolled fusion reaction. The fission trigger is constructed to explode like a normal fission bomb much like the implosion device described in Part 1 of this series. When detonated, huge quantities of energetic X-rays are produced, heating the material surrounding the fusion fuel (such as lithium deuteride), causing the phase transition to a plasma. As very hot plasma is surrounding the lithium deuteride (in a very confined and pressured environment) the fuel will produce tritium, a heavy hydrogen isotope. Tritium then undergoes nuclear fusion, liberating huge quantities of energy as the tritium nuclei are forced together, overcoming the electrostatic forces between nuclei and fusing. Fusion releases large quantities of binding energy, more-so than fission.

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How does a star work?

The point that needs to be emphasised here is that in a thermonuclear device, fusion can only be attained when immense temperatures are reached within a very confined and pressurized environment. What's more, in the case of a fusion bomb, this reaction is uncontrolled.

So, how are nuclear fusion reactions sustained in a star (like our Sun)? In the thermonuclear bomb example above, tritium fusion is achieved through inertial confinement (i.e. rapid, hot and energetic pressure on the fuel to cause fusion), but in the case of a star, a sustained mode of confinement is required. Gravitational confinement is needed for nuclear fusion reactions to occur in the core. For significant gravitational confinement, the star requires a minimum mass.

In the core of our Sun (and most other stars smaller than our Sun), nuclear fusion is achieved through the proton-proton chain (pictured below). This is a hydrogen burning mechanism where helium is generated. Two protons (hydrogen nuclei) combine after overcoming the highly repulsive electrostatic force. This can only be achieved if the stellar body has a large enough mass, increasing gravitational containment in the core. Once the protons combine, they form deuterium (2D), producing a positron (quickly annihilating with an electron) and a neutrino. The deuterium nucleus can then combine with another proton, thus creating a light helium isotope (3He). The outcome of this reaction generates gamma-rays that maintain the stability and high temperature of the star's core (in the case of the Sun, the core reaches a temperature of 15 million Kelvin).

As discussed in a previous Universe Today article, there are a range of planetary bodies below the threshold of becoming a "star" (and not able to sustain proton-proton fusion). The bridge between the largest planets (i.e. gas giants, like Jupiter and Saturn) and the smallest stars are known as brown dwarfs. Brown dwarfs are less than 0.08 solar masses and nuclear fusion reactions have never taken hold (although larger brown dwarfs may have had a short period of hydrogen fusion in their cores). Their cores have a pressure of 105 million atmospheres with temperatures below 3 million Kelvin. Keep in mind, even the smallest brown dwarfs are approximately 10 times more massive than Jupiter (the largest brown dwarfs are around 80 times the mass of Jupiter). So, for even a small chance of the proton-proton chain occurring, we'd need a large brown dwarf, at least 80 times bigger than Jupiter (over 240 Saturn masses) to even stand the hope of sustaining gravitational confinement.

There's no chance Saturn could sustain nuclear fusion?

Sorry, no. Saturn is simply too small.

Implying that a nuclear (fission) bomb detonating inside Saturn could create the conditions for a nuclear fusion chain reaction (like the proton-proton chain) is, again, in the realms of science fiction. Even the larger gas giant Jupiter is far too puny to sustain fusion.

I have also seen arguments claiming that Saturn consists of the same gases as our Sun (i.e. hydrogen and helium), so a runaway chain reaction is possible, all that is needed is a rapid injection of energy. However, the hydrogen that can be found in Saturn's atmosphere is diatomic molecular hydrogen (H2), not the free hydrogen nuclei (high energy protons) as found in the Sun's core. And yes, H2 is highly flammable (after all it was responsible for the infamous Hindenburg airship disaster in 1937), but only when mixed with a large quantity of oxygen, chlorine or fluorine. Alas Saturn does not contain significant quantities of any of those gases.

Conclusion
Although fun, "The Lucifer Project" is the product of someone's lively imagination. Part 1 of "Project Lucifer: Will Cassini Turn Saturn into a Second Sun?" introduced the conspiracy and focused on some of the general aspects why the Galileo probe in 2003 simply burned up in Jupiter's atmosphere, scattering the small pellets of plutonium-238 as it did so. The "black spot" as discovered the next month was simply one of the many dynamic and short-lived storms often seen to develop on the planet.

This article has gone one step further and ignored the fact that it was impossible for Cassini to become an interplanetary atomic weapon. What if there was a nuclear explosion inside Saturn's atmosphere? Well, it looks like it would be a pretty boring affair. I dare say a few lively electrical storms might be generated, but we wouldn't see much from Earth. As for anything more sinister happening, it is highly unlikely there would be any lasting damage to the planet. There would certainly be no fusion reaction as Saturn is too small and it contains all the wrong gases.

Oh well, Saturn will just have to stay the way it is, rings and all. When Cassini completes its mission in two years time, we can look forward to the science we will accumulate from such an incredible and historic endeavour rather than fearing the impossible…

Update (Aug. 7th): As pointed out by some readers below, molecular hydrogen wasn't really the cause of the Hindenburg airship disaster, it was the aluminium-based paint that may have sparked the explosion, hydrogen and oxygen fuelled the fire.

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Reply #76 - Sep 19th, 2012 at 5:24pm
 


( ALERT )) NIBIRU IS HITTING EARTH WITH ASTEROIDS 17-09-2012.mp4

Published on Sep 16, 2012 by NeddyFlandersRollsss
I have included pictures I have taken from 2010 along with Cam Footage of the planet speeding up towards us as it makes a very fast pace each day.
We now cannot see The Second Sun rising through the HCFT as it is rising each morning now as it is in direct position of the sun. Included in this video is different footage from the same telescope every single day I have checked daily as it has been steaming toward our direction.
NOW is the time to BEWARE of HAARP INDUCED NATURAL DISASTER.
I THINK SOMEHTING IS PLANNED
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Reply #77 - Sep 20th, 2012 at 4:21pm
 
NASA definitely want Saturn to become a second sun. Think about it. With 2 suns, the world will split like a cell, as predicted in 2013.

NASA are acting according to the DP.
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Reply #78 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:17am
 
prepare

this month many shall realize this truth

fear not

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Reply #79 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:27am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:17am:
prepare

this month many shall realize this truth

fear not

namaste





Dear master Light,
If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction.
It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined.

Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion.

forgiven

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Reply #80 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 8:34am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:27am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 7:17am:
prepare

this month many shall realize this truth

fear not

namaste





Dear master Light,
If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction.
It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined.

Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion.

forgiven

namaste


many blessings , beloved being ,

you again are confused

I speak not upon the 2 planets you mention

so again you apply your confusion and cloud

then disrupt the flow of information and data

with your guess , a non logical one at that...

then you forgive one such as I am ?

why ?

this leaves you exposed in your confusion .

one such as I am suffers not your affliction .

you remain forgiven

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Reply #81 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:10am
 
page 2 of this thread ...


[quote author=it_is_the_light link=1301768842/15#15 date=1301886502]so you rely on magic to realise your nueropathic delusions?

Ti was said in the dream of Aristarchus that those that fill the ether with spasmodic lies and vortices will have their scrotums lanced with the dualist blade of Hades and dipped in the acid pool of Nimrod

Something to think about before your saturn dream comes crashing down upon your stealthed cranium

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perspective again look and you shall see..i started this thread with

"has anyone heard" of this theory

i am not making claim however i see logic may point unto

this manifestation,

and what do i receive for opening discussion

the same vitriol enveloped within scrotums being lanced

in deed,no less..

these attacks are forgiven brother and sister beings

i spread LOVE and LIGHT and distribute forgiveness

and for these efforts abused constantly yes

and these are forgiven yes

they simply know not what they do

namaste[/quote][/quote]



[quote]reply #21 - Apr 4th, 2011 at 3:55pm Quote  id fools and gizmo

i did not say those predictions before and still

do not

you both misrepresent me again,

forgiven.

the world will not end in 2012..

a split is to take place 31 dec 2011

freewill choice

duality or unity consciousness/one-ness

freewill so be it

tick tock

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Reply #82 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:45am
 
Quote:
1. If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction.
It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined.

2. Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion.


further

the 2 statements you repeat are false

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/

you are forgiven

here is the data you seek

namaste

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Reply #83 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:47am
 
A badly formatted blog. Colour me convinced over those eggheads at NASA, WTF do they know?
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #84 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 1:15pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:47am:
A badly formatted blog. Colour me convinced over those eggheads at NASA, WTF do they know?


copy that

if nasa or anyone else can factually dispute and

prove any non fact at the thunderbolts site

I will discombobulate into an omni present

aspect of the one creator above and below

the centric signwave ...

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/

The Essential Guide to the Electric Universe (EG2EU)

...

Red Square nebula. Credit: Peter Tuthill, Sydney University Physics Dept Palomar and W.M. Keck observatories

" This Guide is intended for anyone who wonders how our Universe really works, and who might be interested in an intriguing and somewhat different point of view. Readers may be surprised to discover that many well-trained skeptics do not support popular ideas in astronomy and the space sciences."

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Reply #85 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 1:20pm
 
https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/09/02/essential-guide-to-eu-introduction/


In a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME), charged particles are explosively accelerated away from the Sun in streaming filaments, defying the Sun’s immense gravity. Electric fields accelerate charged particles, and nothing else known to science can achieve the same effect. If the Sun is the center of an electric field, how many other enigmatic features of this body will find direct explanation?    Credit: SOHO (NASA/ESA)

...


...

Active galaxy 3C31 (circled at center) is dwarfed by the plasma jets along its polar axis, moving at velocities a large fraction of the speed of light. How might the electrical potential along the immense volume of this active region affect the evolution of this galaxy and its billions of stars? Credit: NRAO’s Very Large Array, and Patrick Leahy’s Atlas of DRAGNs


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Chandra X-ray Observatory estimates of the “total energy content of the Universe”. Only “normal” matter can be directly detected with telescopes. The remaining “dark”matter and energy are invisible.   Image Credit: NASA WMAP

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This artistic view of the standard model of the Big Bang and the expanding Universe seems to present a precise picture of cosmic history. A much different story emerges as we learn about plasma phenomena and electric currents in space.    Credit:  NASA WMAP

so yes of and in due course our sun sol.. our star

has many names yes ... is in a sembiotic

relationship with another star .... however

there is yet another that draws close at this time

and as such prepare for lo ,

these things are upon you now

yet fear not beloved

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Reply #86 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 8:02pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:45am:
Quote:
If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction.
It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined.

Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion.


further

the 2 statements you repeat are false

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/

you are forgiven

here is the data you seek

namaste

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter

Quote:
Jupiter is the fifth planet from the Sun and the largest planet in the Solar System. It is a gas giant with mass one-thousandth of that of the Sun but is two and a half times the mass of all the other planets in the Solar System combined.




http://www.universetoday.com/109593/could-jupiter-become-a-star/

Quote:
the smallest red dwarf star is still about 80 times the mass of Jupiter.



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Reply #87 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 8:16pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 5th, 2014 at 9:45am:
Quote:
1.If Jupiter was 10 times more massive it could sustain a fusion reaction.
It is the largest planet & contains more mass than all the other planets combined.

2. Alas - Saturn has no where near enough mass to sustain fusion.


further

the 2 statements you repeat are false

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2011/08/18/10609/

you are forgiven

here is the data you seek

namaste

- : ) =


many blessings

you continue to spam this thread with

your rubbish and feeble attempt to distort

the information being presented with your inane

non logic and refusal to accept you are wrong ..

twice in one post .

that is forgiven

namaste

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Reply #88 - Aug 5th, 2014 at 10:19pm
 
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it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 3rd, 2011 at 4:27am:
has anyone heard that Saturn will be another sun?

within 12 odd months this smaller sun will create an equilibrium

perfect spherical synchronicity and have the exact perceived

mass in the sky as moon and current sun/sol?

the earth will traverse in a figure 8 between the 2 suns and a split

will occur...more info to come..research yes good

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And yet I have proven this to be false as Saturn does not
have enough mass to sustain nuclear fusion.


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Reply #89 - Aug 6th, 2014 at 7:34am
 
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And yet I have proven this to be false as Saturn does not
have enough mass to sustain nuclear fusion.


this is interesting

what have you proven ?

and where have you proven this ?

for the statement is incorrect .. pls provide

your proof .

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