Quote:Of course that's an apt analogy of what's going on in households where the burka is de rigueur .
No it is not darkhall. This whole anti burka campaign rests on the absurd insistance that women only wear it if they are being oppressed by men. This is simply not true. There are plenty of women around who freely choose to wear it and they don't necessarily even have a man in the household. Those who make this claim have no more moral authority than Muslim men who make up rules that deny women the choice of what to wear.
Quote:If there ever was a mismatch, it's muslims and the French.
Which is why they are only brave enough to pick on the women.
Quote:If it was a clothing choice I'd support the burqa.
You make a false dichotomy Grey. Regardless of their motives, it is still a choice about what to wear. You are still denying women one of the most basic choices they can make. If a woman decides to cover her breasts for modesty rather than fashion, would you deny them that right?
Quote:The burqa is a tool of an oppressive patriarchy and that's all it is.
No Grey. It is also an item of clothing. This is the sort of tortured logic people get into when they try to justify the unjustifiable.
Quote:Because I'm not comfortable with the government dictating what we can or can't wear.
Finally, someone who can see this for what it is, in all its simplicity.
Quote:Sometimes you have to recognise the paradox of a situation, plant your feet and do the 'non passant' thing.
Grey, are you suggesting that the only way to protect women from oppression is by denying them a choice in what they wear? It's not a paradox. It's just stupid.