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Inner Health Plus Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #60 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:09am darkhall is a beta male
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darkhall67 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1935	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #61 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:18am Inner Health Plus wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:09am: darkhall is a beta male Ifa thata meansa Ia beta youa ina anya argumenta thena youa area correcta.
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Tony Bradshaw Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 348 Sydney Gender:	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #62 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:18am Durka Durka Burka Mohammad Jihad!!!
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Inner Health Plus Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #63 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:19am darkhall67 wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:18am: Inner Health Plus wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:09am: darkhall is a beta male Ifa thata meansa Ia beta youa ina anya argumenta thena youa area correcta. did you even argue with me in an argument you dumby i am making a factual statement about you
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Re: Burqua ban start on Monday
Reply #64 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:21am

Inner Health Plus wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:19am:

darkhall67 wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:18am:

Inner Health Plus wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:09am:

darkhall is a beta male

Ifa thata meansa Ia beta youa ina anya argumenta thena youa area correcta.

did you even argue with me in an argument you dumby

i am making a factual statement about you

Please be more clear in any argument you make.

Just because the voices in your head understand you doesnt mean everybody else does.

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Inner Health Plus Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #65 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:22am stop trying to sound clever you pussy
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darkhall67 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1935	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #66 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:23am Inner Health Plus wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:22am: stop trying to sound clever you pussy Now you're talking to your cat?
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Inner Health Plus Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 56	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #67 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 12:25am hehehehehe shut up
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Reply #68 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:29am

Soren wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 10:23pm:

I AGREE with WA Minister for Women's Interests Robyn McSweeney that the burka should be banned, because it is a thinly veiled insult to the freedoms we enjoy in our Western culture As an ex-Muslim I know that women are reared in a segregated society where they are not allowed to develop the normal friendships with other young people as we do in the West....

Shereen Zailanee, Coolbellup, WA
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/burka-an-insult-to-all/story-fn558i...

She gets it. It is an insult. I reserve my right to treat public face covering as an insult.

Now, should I go along an let them insult me, or should they go along and avoid insulting me?

Whose freedoms trump the other's?

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Why are we allowing any moslem, to immigrate into Western nations ???

Why, when THE TRUTH IS, that all devout moslems, view all of the people of their 'unbeliever' host nations as the enemies of moslems.

THE TRUTH IS, that all devout moslems consider themselves to be 'superior' humans.
[...when speaking among themselves moslems commonly refer to non-moslems as excrement]

All devout moslems consider themselves to be at war with all unbelievers, with all those who resist ISLAM's influence and authority over their lives.

DO YOU HAVE MOSLEM FRIENDS???

Sure you do.
/sarc off

"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51

All devout moslems believe that in this war [with the enemies of Allah], the moslem course-of-action should be to deceive non-moslems.

Moslems and moslem communities [living within host nations] will only be our 'friends', up until the time that moslem communities become strong enough to assert themselves.

And then, moslems will reveal their true nature, to their one time hosts.

Google;
Europe no-go areas for non-muslims

Google;
UK this is a muslim area

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It took only 19 moslems, who were allowed into the USA, to do this...

IMAGE

Moslem community priorities within all host nations are...
1/ Increase moslem numbers and political influence.
2/ Agitate for more moslem numbers and more political influence.
2/ Destroy the non-moslem host society.

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Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims
London, Sept.8 [2007]
A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, *only until* they gain enough power to engage in battle.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece

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WHAT SHOULD WE DO ???

ISLAM is totally incompatible with Western ideals of democracy, freedom, justice.

We should 'culturally' separate ourselves from moslems/ISLAM, because, if we embrace moslems in 'friendship', moslems/ISLAM will corrupt us, in the same way that ISLAM has corrupted every moslem majority nation.

We should expel from Australia, every individual who SELF DECLARES to be a good moslem.

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We, citizens on the Western 'street', profess a value system, a 'world view', centuries old.

And we seeks social harmony, by what means???

A.
By promoting truth, justice, and freedom for all.

But, ISLAM, promotes an utterly **deceitful** political philosophy [embodied within ISLAM] which is ABSOLUTELY incompatible with truth, justice, and freedom.

And that is why we, who profess a love of what is good [in men], should earnestly and deliberately seek to separate ourselves from moslems/ISLAM.

ISLAM promotes ISLAMIC supremacism.

A.K.A., the 'peace' of ISLAM.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #69 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:38am

And the Moslems will expend the last power of their great Empire
and do to the French what the Germans did to the Jews.

And the Nation of Israel will become great
and see before them the deflated Islam.
Will the Jews 'gas' these hapless Moslems?
No, they will Unite with the Moslem peoples and say:
"Now lets get those bloody Italians!"

...only the Mafia will save Italy, not God.

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SUCKING ON MY TITTIES, LIKE I KNOW YOU WANT TO.

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Reply #70 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:57am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:38am:

And the Moslems will expend the last power of their great Empire
and do to the French what the Germans did to the Jews.

And the Nation of Israel will become great
and see before them the deflated Islam.
Will the Jews 'gas' these hapless Moslems?
No, they will Unite with the Moslem peoples and say:
"Now lets get those bloody Italians!"

...only the Mafia will save Italy, not God.

WHAT THE F*CK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT MOST OF THE TIME

Mod: (sigh) Imperium, you must stop abusing people in every other post. Have a holiday.

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Reply #71 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 10:11am

Yadda wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:29am:

Why, when THE TRUTH IS, that all devout moslems, view all of the people of their 'unbeliever' host nations as the enemies of moslems.

THE TRUTH IS, that all devout moslems consider themselves to be 'superior' humans.

[...when speaking among themselves moslems commonly refer to non-moslems as excrement]

Google;
non-muslims "as filthy as urine and feces"

Google;
non-muslims are excrement

This next guy is a moslem 'holy man' ....

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Use children as troops, says cleric [Sheik Feiz Mohammed]
January 18, 2007
..."We want to have children and offer them as soldiers...Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=94224
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

When you think that your moslem friend is showing you respect, and friendship...

Remember that there are no moderate moslems - ANYWHERE.

To BE a moslem, a moslem must endorse what the Koran and Hadith teach.

If a 'moslem' does not **HATE** unbelievers, he/she, is, not a moslem.

This is not what i claim,
...that is what the Koran and Hadith teach,
...that is what ISLAMIC 'religious' doctrines teach.

Google,
smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"

No 'unbeliever' is 'eligible' as a friend, for a moslem.

Why not?

Because 'unbelievers' are the declared enemies of Allah, and 'unbelievers' are therefore, also the enemies of believers.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah,...fight ye against the ['unbelievers']..."
Koran 4.76

WHAT I HAVE SAID, IS ONLY THE TRUTH.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #72 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 7:59pm

darkhall67 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 10:19pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 10:03pm:

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what are the reasons for you covering your face in public?

To protect my right to choose for myself what to wear.

Now, what do you say? Would you deny me the right to choose for myself what to wear?

Not in the privacy of your own home.

So that's a yes then? You would deny me the right to choose what to wear also?

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If I had my way I would walk naked down the street.

There are plenty of places in the world where you can. I think it will be legal in Australia one day. We are already pretty close.

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I'm not allowed to wear an SS uniform.

Or a KKK hood in PUBLIC.

You sure about that?

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If anyone attempts to make a law against you wearing whatever you damn well like in your own home i will be the first to paint a few signs and go on a protest march in support and solidarity with you.

So you think freedom does not extend to public spaces? What other presonal freedoms would you restrict to private property?

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Now, should I go along an let them insult me, or should they go along and avoid insulting me?
Whose freedoms trump the other's?

There's obviously - as anyone with even a basic understanding of freedom could explain. The insult is entirely in your mind. There is no such thing as freedom from percieved insult. You could use that line of argument to ban anything you object to merely because it upsets you.

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I suspect, you may find there are limits to your "fundamental rights".

Sure, and these are entirely justified. None of your examples hang on silly notions like percieved insults. The trade-offs involved are all real, rather than a whinge fest.

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FD, you have zero chance of being allowed to go around undisturbed if you cover your face. Zero, that is, unless you somhow also signal that you are a Muslim.

Not sure where you get this silly idea from Soren. People do it all the time. You seem unusually out of touch with reality today.

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One day almost all Muslim women in Afghanistan wore western style clothing, the next, under the new Taliban regime, they were FORCED to wear the Burqa. Maybe we could make a collection of such 'clothing choices'.

One day all Muslim women in France could choose what to wear, the next, under the new French regime, they were FORCED to oncover their face. And people did not even see the irony.

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Reply #73 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:15pm

freediver wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 7:59pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 10:19pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2011 at 10:03pm:

[quote]what are the reasons for you covering your face in public?

To protect my right to choose for myself what to wear.

Now, what do you say? Would you deny me the right to choose for myself what to wear?

Not in the privacy of your own home.

So that's a yes then? You would deny me the right to choose what to wear also?

[quote]

i'm gonna have to say "yes" to that one.

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darkhall67 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1935	Re: Burqua ban start on Monday Reply #74 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 8:16pm Quote: If I had my way I would walk naked down the street. There are plenty of places in the world where you can. I think it will be legal in Australia one day. We are already pretty close. [quote] Fingers crossed.
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