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Should women serve on the frontline of battle?
Apr 16th, 2011 at 1:08am
 
I think not ..obviously.
Why? Because for one, women have a mindset...and so do men.
Women on the frontline would be demoralising to men and unsafe for all concerned.
Why not have children on the frontline also? Some children are as capable as any adult male. There would be many an eight yr. old child (male or female) who could pass the required tests.




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Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 2:02am
 
Men aren`t made for the horrors of war either, I know, I`ve nursed enough shattered souls to know.
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Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 2:13am
 
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Men aren`t made for the horrors of war either, I know, I`ve nursed enough shattered souls to know.


Then anybody who passes the required testing should be available to serve in our "Attack force"?

And let's get this right.. We are an "Attack force", not a defense force.
We haven't needed to defend our nation since the 1940's.

We have the most bs cu@t of a so-called nation in the history of mankind.
We are all about resources and deceptive political correctness directed at our inhabitnts in order to allow our resources to be exploited.

Go outside of this nation, and you receive more freedom, less political correctness, and a better view of how meaningless this nation (AustraLiar) really is to the rest of the world.
We're bunnies and nothing else.





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Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 2:55am
 
Nancy Wake, look her up and tell me again how women are not suitable for the front line.
Russia had female snipers durring WWII. Check out Lyudmila Mikhailivna Pavlichenko.
Anyone capable and willing to serve  in our Defence Force at home or abroad, should have the opportunity to do so.
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Reply #4 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 3:04am
 
You ain't listening.
8yr olds explode themselves in the name of Allah.

..they blow up so quickly u know.

Not in the name of my God they don't.
Women and children are priority..otherwise there is no priority.



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Reply #5 - Apr 16th, 2011 at 5:52am
 
Amadd wrote on Apr 16th, 2011 at 1:08am:
Why not have children on the frontline also? Some children are as capable as any adult male. There would be many an eight yr. old child (male or female) who could pass the required tests.




Many? Really?

How about none.

I doubt any 8 yr old could pass the entry requirements for entry level military service in the ADF, let alone front line combat roles; what a pant load.  Angry

BTW this issue was already posted about a week ago and discussed in detail.

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Reply #6 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 1:42pm
 
Why not.
I mean, its not like USA soldiers kill other soldiers who wear sandles by staying as far away as possible from physical contact and just push buttons via high tech weapons of mass destruction like Terminators.

I think most Iraqi Soldiers never really got to see live USA Soldiers, it was all just machines (Clone Wars?).

It doesn't take much physical energy to kill people these days. Just pull a trigger or push a button from a very safe and hidden position.
Cowardly and gutless if you ask me, especially when the Military just does the whim of Politics and doesn't protect rare and endangered species upon the planet.
Sea Shepard has more balls than the Australian Navy.

Also, if you had women working at Alcatraz, chances are that the tunnel would have been spotted quickly.

I think that the Australian Military can't cope with women in their midst because:
1. They have to work harder.
2. They have to work harder for all the right reasons.
3. They have to treat women properly and put away their little 'redneck/gay' tendencies.

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Reply #7 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 1:50pm
 
There are probably many butch lesos who'd be great at the job -
they could carry a 100lb pack all day.
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Reply #8 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:22pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 1:42pm:
Why not.
I mean, its not like USA soldiers kill other soldiers who wear sandles by staying as far away as possible from physical contact and just push buttons via high tech weapons of mass destruction like Terminators.

I think most Iraqi Soldiers never really got to see live USA Soldiers, it was all just machines (Clone Wars?).

It doesn't take much physical energy to kill people these days. Just pull a trigger or push a button from a very safe and hidden position.
Cowardly and gutless if you ask me, especially when the Military just does the whim of Politics and doesn't protect rare and endangered species upon the planet.
Sea Shepard has more balls than the Australian Navy.

Also, if you had women working at Alcatraz, chances are that the tunnel would have been spotted quickly.

I think that the Australian Military can't cope with women in their midst because:
1. They have to work harder.
2. They have to work harder for all the right reasons.
3. They have to treat women properly and put away their little 'redneck/gay' tendencies.




Well anyone could tell you have never served a day in your life, the extent of your ignorance is astounding.

If the sole extent of your knowledge about strategic defence issues relies on you having seen a few WWII or Vietnam war movies then save yourself a lot of embrassment and keep your inane comments off the interweb.  Grin

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Reply #9 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:27pm
 
Maybe in female-only units. 

They'd have to pass all the required tests as they are, not the 'dumbed-down' ones that they are usually required to do, and would need to be either sterilised or put on long-term contraceptives before being sent to the field.
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Reply #10 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 3:15pm
 
Nancy Wake & the Russian are exceptions, as was Odette. But Nancy Wake & Odette were not front line, they were behind the lines as spies. And Russian women could double as Sherman tanks anyway.

No, I don't like the idea of women in general infantry etc. They have to be a danger to their colleagues.
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Reply #11 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 3:41pm
 
Women are already serving on the 'front line' and have been for years. The debate now is about opening up the last remaining combat positions that still exclude women, jobs like navy Clearance Diver and infantry, plus a few others. If a woman is psychologically and physically suited for these jobs there is, on the face of it, no reason why they shouldn't do them. (although I think there would only be a minuscule number of women who could meet the physical standards required by a Clearance Diver)

However I do think that unit cohesion and espirit de corps can suffer somewhat in mixed gender units. Time will tell if this can be overcome or will remain a problem.
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Reply #12 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 4:00pm
 


The problem is that currently women are not even eligible to apply for that 7% of roles - gender rejection is automatic, regardless of their skills or fitness.

It doesn't matter how unfit a bloke is, he is automatically eligible to apply on the basis of gender - and to be duly rejected in due course.
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Reply #13 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 4:06pm
 
Equitist wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 4:00pm:
The problem is that currently women are not even eligible to apply for that 7% of roles - gender rejection is automatic, regardless of their skills or fitness.

It doesn't matter how unfit a bloke is, he is automatically eligible to apply on the basis of gender - and to be duly rejected in due course.



There are jobs that men don't even get a look-in either.  The difference is, we won't pretend that we want to do them just to make a point.
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Reply #14 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 4:07pm
 
Equitist wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 4:00pm:
The problem is that currently women are not even eligible to apply, regardless of their skills or fitness - rejection is automatic.

It doesn't matter how unfit a bloke is, he is automatically eligible to apply - and to be duly rejected in due course.



An unfit male will be rejected for frontline combat duties in the same due course as a female, immediately, if you have titties you don't get to join.

The front line combat is not some ongoing social experiment in how to formulate an inclusive society, it is used to kill enemies of the state; one job and one job only.

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