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Re: ban all 'religious' clothing
Reply #105 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 3:12am

Emma wrote on Apr 26^th, 2011 at 2:45am:

you make me think Yadda.

I hope that i can do that.

But i'm not holding my breath. Roll Eyes

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Clearly, from an historical viewpoint, you are correct - Islam seeks to make this world wholly Islamist.
Witness to this is the fact that Islam rose to dominance, thru war, as far west as Spain, at least> Which leaves?? christian knights and their multitudinous slaves, to repel this onslaught. As they did. A LONG TIME AGO.
Architecture alone attests to this.

BUT- this is an ageless conflict, and very likely , as today!, the conflict will continue.

But- given the roots are so old, - why can't WE - here in C21, reconcile our differences/>??

I'll tell you why.
We are animals - 2 legs BAD. We are BAD ANIMALS. Trying to justify our BADNESS by calling on a 'god' as justification.

Eternal conflict is OUR right. Nothing else do we inspire.

Human conflict will end, when men have the law [of God] in their hearts [instead of the law [of God] being only in books].

My God promises this will 'come about', to his 'children'.

I firmly believe that our purpose in being 'here', is that we are all choosing our own [future] fate.

The fate of the wicked, is sort of, God's joke, on the wicked [spirits] - because they chose it, for themselves.

Daniel 12:10
Isaiah 48:10
Revelation 21:7-8

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48874 At my desk.	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #106 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 7:45am Quote: Yadda paraphrases FD.... How about we stick to reality Yadda? Muslim women are not going to eat you, with or without the viel.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #107 - Apr 26^th, 2011 at 11:51pm yeah - not even if they were really hungry.!!!
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30072 Gender:	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #108 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 12:00am freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:19pm: I am not doubting our ability. I am questioning whether doing so is a good idea. yes of course it's a good idea from a security perspective. Security should have priority over irrational religious dogma. If they don't like it they can go somewhere else.
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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30072 Gender:	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #109 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 12:02am freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2011 at 7:45am: Quote: Yadda paraphrases FD.... How about we stick to reality Yadda? Muslim women are not going to eat you, with or without the viel. And no guy is automatically going to rape them just because they see a bit of muslim cleavage.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #110 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 12:18am oooh last nail - that makes me wonder - Do you have empathy? Can u put urself in someone else's place.? Do you thinK. ?/? A female place? I don't think you can, some don't try to kid y'self.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48874 At my desk.	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #111 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 6:14pm Quote: Security should have priority over irrational religious dogma. Should it have priority over the freedom to choose what to wear?
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Re: ban all 'religious' clothing
Reply #112 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 7:47pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 27^th, 2011 at 12:00am:

freediver wrote on Apr 25^th, 2011 at 6:19pm:

I am not doubting our ability. I am questioning whether doing so is a good idea.

yes of course it's a good idea from a security perspective. Security should have priority over irrational religious dogma. If they don't like it they can go somewhere else.

Hear hear Nail.
Would a man walking around the streets with his face covered
in the same way be accepted or stopped?
I am sure that the police would push him to the ground & rip
his disguise off - followed by a stout police bashing.
Why do Muslim women get away with it?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48874 At my desk.	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #113 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 8:28pm Are you being sarcastic bobby?
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #114 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 9:02pm How many robberies and assaults have occured in Australia in the last 12 mths and how many of them involved the wearing of religious head covering? I think we will all find security has nothing to do with day to day religious clothing. A scrawny bogan druggy in a burqa is pretty bloody obvious.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48874 At my desk.	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #115 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 9:05pm Suppose a motorcyclist enters a store without removing his helmet, robs it, then drives off on his bike. How does the burqa ban aid security?
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Re: ban all 'religious' clothing
Reply #116 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 9:09pm

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2011 at 8:28pm:

Are you being sarcastic bobby?

In a way yes.
But... I noticed that during riots in Melbourne - as seen on TV -
many years ago -
some people wearing balaclavas got a savage beating by the cops
even when they were just standing there doing nothing -
that's right - clubbed with batons - blood everywhere.
It seems that any disguise is not liked by police - even though they
of course took their police number ID's off so that
they couldn't be easily recognised & reported.
The government did nothing about it.

It seems there are different rules for Muslim women.

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Reply #117 - Apr 27^th, 2011 at 9:12pm

Its quite comical that over 3,000 people die in this country each year from alcohol abuse and tens of thousands die from tobacco use and the worst thing people can find to be afraid of is relgious clothing and if they can see someones face.
More people die in this country each year from alcohol abuse than died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks..peoples priorities are sure screwed up.
Crikey more people die each year in the world from car crashes than terrorist attacks..
Ya gotta love the hysteria the media and right wing fear mongers generate. Yes we have to fight terrorism and religious extremism but put it in perspective..
Phillip Morris and Fosters are far better at killing than any terrorist group

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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: ban all 'religious' clothing Reply #118 - Apr 28^th, 2011 at 1:08am Quote: Phillip Morris and Fosters are far better at killing than any terrorist group Maybe but theofascists don't ask for volunteers to be victims.
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