Australian Politics Forum - Health Care & Welfare

Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Health Care & Welfare - American Style ! Reply #15 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 6:38am Working class people have no rights or social security safety net in America. The USA has some of the worst poverty and social injustice in the world. The poor in America are burdened with the high cost of corporate welfare they must pay to support the unproductive idle ruling elite.
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Andrei.Hicks

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Reply #16 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 6:58am

Incorrect actually, the poor do not have to pay for other people.

In the United States we have this strange old concept of you pay for yourself. So they don't pay for others.

Tell me why in Australia I should pay for my own healthcare AND pay for someone else to have it at my expense?
How on earth is that a good thing??

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Cliff Richard Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 558	Re: Health Care & Welfare - American Style ! Reply #17 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 6:59am where do these morons get this idea from that the U.S doesnt have a f*ckload of welfare from it has tonnes
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Reply #18 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 7:12am

The Poor are the only ones who pay their own way in the USA and are on their own, the elite are unproductive and have a well crafted welfare system based on corporate welfare and philanthropy which redistributes all of the welfare taking it from the bottom and giving it to the top of the food chain. The only purpose for congress is to identify any additional cuts that can be made on spending that may inadvertently benefit the undesirable poor and you cant have that can you? There is this monumental sense of entitlement in the ruling elite to welfare for its own class. Cool

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Reply #19 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 7:27am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 21^st, 2011 at 6:58am:

Incorrect actually, the poor do not have to pay for other people.

In the United States we have this strange old concept of you pay for yourself. So they don't pay for others.

Tell me why in Australia I should pay for my own healthcare AND pay for someone else to have it at my expense?
How on earth is that a good thing??

So tell me dickhead why does some of my taxes go towards public transport when I don't use it?

Why do I have to pay some of my taxes to private school when I send my kids to a public school?

Why do some of my taxes go towards Child Care Rebate when I have never use child care in my life? Which you say you claim when you were living in Australia.

Why do i pay taxes to built roads then have to pay to use the roads?

Why do I have to pay some of my taxes towards heaps of things that I never use or want. Would you like to paid no taxes at all and have private enterprise built and run and make you pay for everything that you use, that is what you are saying and you would be worst off

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Health Care & Welfare - American Style ! Reply #20 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 7:41am Jack do us a favor you moron and stick to one ID. I know you're paranoid about the cops wiping your PC clean again, but your grammar and education is just so poor it sticks out to anyone with half a brain cell.
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Reply #21 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 7:55am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 21^st, 2011 at 5:31am:

You speak as you find in this world.

I live in the USA, I pay less tax than in Australia (I have over $10,000 extra in my pocket than I would in Aus).

I have health insurance which covers my family for all incidents and occasions.

There are the most qualified doctors and surgeons in the world here.

My cost of living is also 60% of yours.

Better place to live?

Give me the United States over your place anyday of the week.

And I am Australian too.

If you are an Aussie Andrei you seem to be trying very hard to convince yourself you've made the best move so far as country of residence is concerned!
Maybe we can agree on one thing.... Both countries continue to struggle under a political class who haven't got a bloody clue.....

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Wattle Grove Ex Member	Re: Health Care & Welfare - American Style ! Reply #22 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 7:55am So you can't answer the question andrei so you have to shoot the messenger. BTW are you ripping off the America tax system like the way you ripped off the Australia tax system.
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Reply #23 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 8:04am

GrandPaPa wrote on Apr 21^st, 2011 at 7:55am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 21^st, 2011 at 5:31am:

You speak as you find in this world.

I live in the USA, I pay less tax than in Australia (I have over $10,000 extra in my pocket than I would in Aus).

I have health insurance which covers my family for all incidents and occasions.

There are the most qualified doctors and surgeons in the world here.

My cost of living is also 60% of yours.

Better place to live?

Give me the United States over your place anyday of the week.

And I am Australian too.

If you are an Aussie Andrei you seem to be trying very hard to convince yourself you've made the best move so far as country of residence is concerned!
Maybe we can agree on one thing.... Both countries continue to struggle under a political class who haven't got a bloody clue.....

I am already convinced, I am not trying.

The United States (in my own personal experience) leaves me financially better off and offers me a lot more than Australia or the UK did.

I would take life in La Jolla over Melbourne anyday.

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Wattle Grove

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Reply #24 - Apr 21^st, 2011 at 8:27pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Apr 21^st, 2011 at 7:41am:

Jack do us a favor you moron and stick to one ID.

I know you're paranoid about the cops wiping your PC clean again, but your grammar and education is just so poor it sticks out to anyone with half a brain cell.

You dickhead you had to check my profife out then check the other site i belong to and guess what I found out that much about you through your ISP it is not funny.

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You said you went to univeristy you are not to smart are you on a computer are you.

Mods if you want to bar me go ahead

What I removed was not relevant to the thread Wattle, and I noted Andreis personal insults attacking you, but we still need to respect people's right to divulge their personal info if they want, but it does not extend to others doing so, which means just leave it alone.
Do not put out any info about others, that they do not choose to put out themselves, and do not threaten to publish people's IP address, that is not how we behave here.
As far as banning goes, if ANYBODY posts personal info about other members, which they shouldn't, then they will be banned, so EVERYBODY needs to respect that fact, and try and stay ON TOPIC- Thank you, from mozzaok

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Health Care & Welfare - American Style ! Reply #25 - Apr 23^rd, 2011 at 5:59am Much appreciated Mozza.
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