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Villawood Detention Centre fires under control,
Apr 21st, 2011 at 9:13am
 
Villawood Detention Centre fires under control, says Immigration

PROTESTING asylum seekers have torched a number of buildings inside Sydney's Villawood Detention Centre, sparking an explosion, as authorities fail to gain control of the volatile situation.

Firefighters are unable to enter the facility due to safety concerns.

NSW Police are maintaining a security perimeter outside the centre due to jurisdictional limits, keeping scores of onlookers a safe distance away.

At the same time Australian Federal Police and the centre's security force are trying move non-protesting detainees to safe areas within the centre.

The incident remained out of control at 4am (AEST), with an immigration spokeswoman saying at that time that the destructive protest was ongoing and the situation remained fluid.

"A number of agencies are working to bring the centre back under control," she said.

Earlier reports that NSW Police had taken control of trying to bring calm to the centre were based on incorrect information, the spokeswoman said.

At least one multi-storey structure had gone up in flames and had partially collapsed.

An explosion, thought to have come from a gas bottle inside a kitchen area, shook the ground.

Fire crews had through the night battled at least three major fires from outside the centre, because detainees were running amok inside the centre.

Ten fire trucks rushed to the facility, in Sydney's southwest, about 10.30pm (AEST) yesterday.

Fire Superintendent Chris Jurgeit said three ladder trucks had hoses in elevated positions, dousing a series of buildings, demountables and sheds that were on fire.

"We can't get too much water into the structures," Supt Jurgeit said. "It's like a prison fire. We don't want to put firefighters at risk."

There were no reports of injuries at this stage.

A NSW police spokeswoman said the detention centre was Commonwealth property and officers cannot enter without authorisation from the Department of Immigration.

"We're sitting tight until they request our help," the spokeswoman said. "We don't have jurisdiction."

Refugee advocate Brami Jegan was one of 200 people gathered outside the detention centre and said a two-to-three storey building was well alight.

"I can see quite a few fires," Ms Jegan said. "The whole place seems to have pockets of fire everywhere."

The problems began yesterday morning when two asylum seekers took to the roof of one building reportedly in protest to the department denying their applications.

Refugee Action Coalition's Ian Rintoul said a total of 13 asylum seekers were on the roof by Wednesday evening and were there when others on the ground started the fires.

Mr Rintoul remains in contact with some of the detainees who described the situation as chaotic.

He said one of the detainees told him: "We are too tired. I have never seen Villawood like this. Everyone is protesting. Everything is burning now."

Social Justice Network spokesman Jamal Daoud is also in contact with detainees who said that Serco security officers at Villawood have been attacked.

"The detainees attacked SERCO security with fire extinguishers and (were) throwing objects on them," Mr Daoud said in an email. "The detainees told me that they are experiencing difficult breathing because of this.

"There is total chaos inside the detention (centre), with detainees from the rooftop throwing roof tiles on the ground."

Ms Jegan said the 13 rooftop protesters - eight Afghans, three Kurds, two Iranians - had been in detention for between 13 and 20 months and were desperate.

About 150 detainees were protesting on the ground, she said.

Some of the detainees had been taken to a visitors' centre for their safety, she said.

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Re: Villawood Detention Centre fires under control,
Reply #1 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 9:21am
 
They set fire to the joint because of the conditions?

What are these conditions and why are they any worse than where these people came from?

Yes, we know it takes too long, but to set fire to the buildings, and throw tiles at firefighters? Is this the way that they will behave in our society when they don't like something?

Any asylum seeker involved in any form of violent protest should be charged and removed.
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Reply #2 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 9:48am
 
This is just more evidence, if any were needed, of the true colours of the alleged asylum seekers.  If we can deport an Englishman for criminal activity we can deport all these criminals as well. But will the government grow a spine and do this? Lets not hold our breath.
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Re: Villawood Detention Centre fires under control,
Reply #3 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 10:44am
 
this englishman Belgarion?
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/dad-fights-deportation-all-the-way-to-plane/stor...

The only problem I have here, is how long it took them to get there asses in gear. If you are going to deport someone for criminal activity, then you do not put it in motion years later.
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Reply #4 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 1:08pm
 
Funny, considering I worked at South-West Private Hospital as an Assistant Nurse and I couldn't afford Private Health Care but these ILLEGAL immigrants who flee their countries because the are either
1. are Wanted Criminals
2. Can't be bothered fixing their own countries and making the world a better place
3. are bludgers

get Private Health Care compliments of my pay packet. They get free privatised Operations by some of Sydney's best Doctors.
Mind you, the majority of ops needed are 'Rectal' so its no wonder we don't want these dirty little grubs in our country.
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SUCKING ON MY TITTIES, LIKE I KNOW YOU WANT TO.
 
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Re: Villawood Detention Centre fires under control,
Reply #5 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 1:09pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Apr 21st, 2011 at 9:48am:
This is just more evidence, if any were needed, of the true colours of the alleged asylum seekers.  If we can deport an Englishman for criminal activity we can deport all these criminals as well. But will the government grow a spine and do this? Lets not hold our breath.

an English man is lower than these people as they are protected by the Green , just wait and see Sarah Hanson YOung is going to scream loud on the news today ..
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Reply #6 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 1:13pm
 
We keep and protect these people under "Human Rights" laws etc.
But what about the Human Rights of people in our Society when we release these Criminals?
So many innocent people in this Country suffer and die because of our 'over-protection' (like over-population) of Criminals.
Never buy Caged Eggs either.
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Reply #7 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 1:47pm
 
bridonta wrote on Apr 21st, 2011 at 1:09pm:
Belgarion wrote on Apr 21st, 2011 at 9:48am:
This is just more evidence, if any were needed, of the true colours of the alleged asylum seekers.  If we can deport an Englishman for criminal activity we can deport all these criminals as well. But will the government grow a spine and do this? Lets not hold our breath.


an English man is lower than these people as they are protected by the Green , just wait and see Sarah Hanson YOung is going to scream loud on the news today ..







ACCORDING TO 'REFUGEE' ADVOCATES [like Sarah Hanson-Young]; AND MOSLEM PROPAGANDISTS;

It seems that any Australian [any non-moslem] who condemns moslem violence and moslem bigotry and moslem intolerance,
....is a 'bigot' or a 'racist'.

Any non-moslem society which defends itself, from ISLAM's culture of violent Jihad [so as to spread ISLAM/Sharia], is engaging in 'terrorism' against moslems.




From what i know, from my study, of ISLAM's own texts, and doctrines, i would confidently make this statement;

Every good moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by **self declaring** as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.


Every moslem!

Every non-moslem should be aware and recognise, that ISLAM is in fact, a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'].


And in my estimation, every good moslem **does understand** what his/her **religious** OBLIGATION is, to ISLAM, and to fellow moslems.



Those assertions i make, may be uncomfortable to some Australians.

But those assertions are based in TRUTH, and are based on the truthful intent of tenets of 'faith' which ISLAM teaches every moslem.


+++

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


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AND WHAT UK MOSLEM COMMUNITY LEADERS THEMSELVES, HAVE ADVOCATED, REGARDING NON-MOSLEMS...


Attack on London 'inevitable'
April 19, 2004
"We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/19/1082326119414.html?from=storyrhs&on...


N.B.
"...the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity."





Jihad [violence against non-moslems], is the path towards a Sharia system, which is justified by ISLAM, and which is accepted by all good moslems.


December 31, 2007
Pakistani cleric: "We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world. We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use force."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019399.php


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Re: Villawood Detention Centre fires under control,
Reply #8 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 2:05pm
 
Yadda wrote on Apr 21st, 2011 at 1:47pm:

From what i know, from my study, of ISLAM's own texts, and doctrines, i would confidently make this statement;

Every good moslem in Australia [and indeed, every good moslem on the planet], by **self declaring** as a moslem, is self declaring a criminal intent [by our laws] against local non-moslems.


Every moslem!

Every non-moslem should be aware and recognise, that ISLAM is in fact, a criminal compact among moslems, to wage a violent 'religious' war against ALL non-moslems ['unbelievers'].


And in my estimation, every good moslem **does understand** what his/her **religious** OBLIGATION is, to ISLAM, and to fellow moslems.






e.g.....

Quote:

Here, for example, are two very illuminating passages from the canonical Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated by A. Guillaume, and a third passage, from the earliest known Muslim historian.

Ishaq: 204 - "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'"

Ishaq:231 - "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders."

And here is Al-Tabari, a very early Muslim historian, in book 9, chapter or section 69, reporting words that Muslims believe to have been said by Mohammed himself - "Killing infidels is a small matter to us".

These texts are not fossils from a distant past. They are not dead letters. They are still 'live' and carry tremendous weight in the imagination and practice of many Muslims around the world.
...DDA




Google it.

n.b.
"Killing infidels is a small matter to us"






IMO, no good moslem is a worthy person to live in a country like Australia.

IMO, any person who self declares,

"I am a moslem. Allah is my God. ISLAM is my religion."

....should be removed, expelled from Australia.


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Re: Villawood Detention Centre fires under control,
Reply #9 - Apr 21st, 2011 at 6:47pm
 
These people make me sick, and so does Julia Gillard.
She's letting these people into our country, giving them homes, the doll basically she is letting criminals into our country instead of putting them in prison.
The detention centre they are in so far from prison, they have phones, TV, take away food, whatever they need they have and they go and burn it down because it's taking to long. Why don't they think about the people doing it the right way and waiting years. Julia Gillard is the most useless person to ever lead this country.
She won't send them back to where they belong, she won't put them in prison and she won't put them in line with all of the good people that are waiting years to get into our country legally, she'll just give them a house and let them invite their family to our country.
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