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Re: I Was Not Born With Sin
Reply #15 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 1:59pm
 
I think Jesus means "Who is with us"

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you"think" [with forgiveness] means you repeat mistruths

dogma and doctrin

jesus means son of zeus

believe as you wish yes

do that which brings you joy

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Reply #16 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 2:17pm
 

My memory was imperfect, as I said with confidance it has nothing to do with zeus.


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...........The etymology of the name Jesus is generally explained as "God's salvation" usually expressed as "Yahweh saves "[32][33][34] "Yahweh is salvation"[35][36] and at times as "Jehovah is salvation".[37] The name Jesus appears to have been in use in Judaea at the time of the birth of Jesus.[37][38] And Philo's reference (Mutatione Nominum item 121) indicates that the etymology of Joshua was known outside Judaea at the time.[39]

In the New Testament, in Luke 1:31 an angel tells Mary to name her child Jesus, and in Matthew 1:21 an angel tells Joseph to name the child Jesus. The statement in Matthew 1:21 "you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins" associates salvific attributes to the name Jesus in Christian theology.[40][41]

"Christ" (pronounced /ˈkraɪst/) is derived from the Greek Χριστός (Khristós) meaning "the anointed one", a translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ (Māšîaḥ), usually transliterated into English as Messiah.[42][43] In the Septuagint version of the Hebrew Bible (written well over a century before the time of Jesus), the word Christ was used to translate into Greek the Hebrew word Māšîaḥ.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus#Etymology_of_the_name


This is where it is interesting.
YAhweh is Gods secret name name, knowledge and use of this name implies a personal or covenant realtionship.

Putting it all together, this person whom I have a personal relationship with is annointed and will save me.

He certainly is with me.
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Reply #17 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 2:51pm
 
yes the CHRIST is within me also brother being

you may of course believe wikipedia this is freewill

so be it

i am in no arguement with you

with forgiveness

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Reply #18 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 3:52pm
 
Putting it all together, this person whom I have a personal relationship with is annointed and will save me.

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no one will save you

you must save yourself

do you deny this?

im interested

if you are waiting for a fairy godmother/father to save you

you will be found in lack

with forgiveness

i would suggest look within and do not repeat bullshot

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Reply #19 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 5:10pm
 

how can you ever save yourself ?
If you have put yourself in that situation initially ?


You have sinned.
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Reply #20 - Apr 26th, 2011 at 6:03pm
 
how can you ever save yourself ?

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this is a good reflection of your current state of consciousness

beloved brother being

with forgiveness yes

you will overcome this..i have it on divine authority

you are sacred and divine,fear not

for i am that i am with thee

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Reply #21 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 12:04pm
 
muso wrote on Apr 26th, 2011 at 7:34am:
ash wrote on Apr 25th, 2011 at 3:20pm:
what about budhists? considering they believe in reincarnation....does it also follow that the sins/guilt/onus of their *"former self" follow them as well?

ps * for want of better terms.


For a start, Buddhists don't usually believe in reincarnation in the literal sense, and you can't really infer something about Buddhism from a consideration of Christianity either.  



Actually, Buddists DO literally believe in reincarnation, and there are numerous mentions of reincarnation in the Bible too. John the Baptist, for example, talks of Jesus being the rebirth of the prophet Isiah.

I think you can consider Buddhism from a Christian perspective and vice-versa. Religions, essentially, stem from the same source: prophets or Enlightened ones realizing an aspect of the Source and passing the message onto the rest of us.

We then get confused and turn it into a list of rules and regulations. You see this time and time again in ashrams and spiritual communities, where people try to mimick the teacher in all sorts of ways without really understanding the essence of the teachings.

But this is understandable. Until we experience these other worlds for ourselves, we imagine a second-hand version of them. Christians, for example, do this by imagining heaven as a place you get to if you're good, or are "forgiven." Jacob's ladder, the walls of Jericho, manna from heaven, even baptism: all these are inner experiences, not literal ones; neumena, not phenomena.

Many Hindus believe that the Ganges washes away their sins, but the Ganges is a metaphor. Still, millions of Hindus go to Benares to die or be cremated.

Many Muslims believe that if they die in jihad, they will go to paradise, but jihad is a spiritual struggle. Still, many Muslims choose to die in war.

As the Light rightly says, Christians turned Jesus into a god, or God. Much debate in the establishment of the church focused on how Jesus could be God in a monotheistic religion. Hence, the trinity was thought up to solve the problem.

Politics, always politics.

As Jesus said: "if you believe the Kingdom is in the air, the birds will preceed you. If you belive the Kingdom is in the sea, the fish will preceed you. The Kingdom of heaven is within you, and outside of you" (in the Gospel of Thomas).

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Reply #22 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 12:11pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 26th, 2011 at 5:10pm:
how can you ever save yourself ?
If you have put yourself in that situation initially ?


You have sinned.


You can't save yourself. You need someone who has already escaped to show you the way out. You need a teacher.

But you then need to put the teachings into effect. This is the hard part.
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Reply #23 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 5:18pm
 
You can't save yourself.

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you can save yourself beloved ones

look within

it is there

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Re: I Was Not Born With Sin
Reply #24 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 6:08pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 27th, 2011 at 5:18pm:
You can't save yourself.

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you can save yourself beloved ones

look within

it is there

namaste


Can't you save us, Master?

I have looked within. I hated it.
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Reply #25 - Apr 27th, 2011 at 7:07pm
 
forgive yourself NOW beloved..only you can do this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStvl1biyic

http://lightworkers.org/channeling/129927/archangel-gabriel-april-21-28-2011

ARCHANGEL GABRIEL 2011

April 21-28, 2011

Beloved Ones,

I wish to have discourse on the quality of Love called bravery. This quality requires the ability to know yourself and to walk your talk, even though those around you just cannot resonate with your truth. Stepping into a whole new way of Being requires immense courage and tremendous faith that what you believe in shall come into manifestation. Most of you reading this discourse have demonstrated this quality of bravery time and time again. It takes bravery to continue on your chosen Path and to stay true to this Path when you are not taken seriously by those around you.

It requires dedication and the following of your intuition, for following intuition is looked upon as a practice that is not based on concrete fact and evidence, as coming from your feeling body rather than from the realms of the mind and logic; nevertheless, those who follow their intuitive promptings can attest to having important guidance that proves to be uncanny in its unerring accuracy in the unfoldment of your Path. In these changing times, it takes much bravery just to awaken in the morning and pull yourselves out of bed to begin a new day. Brave it is to do so and to then take on your Earthly roles at the same time as your role of anchoring the Greater Light into the Earth.

This Earth is peopled by Souls who are the bravest of the brave for stepping forth when asked to come forward and step into the most challenging of circumstances ever to befall an Ascending Planet. It requires many skills, talents and abilities for you to weave opposing forces together into a Unity consciousness. It is not easy, we know, and your bravery in the face of all the odds that have been pitted against you is the stuff of legends throughout the Universe. At the core of your bravery lies the most powerful force in the Universe and that is the power of your Love, Love for the Creator, first and foremost, lives within your hearts with the most deeply ingrained intensity and conviction so that each of you are willing to endure whatever it takes to accomplish what was once considered the impossible. You it is who have known that with God all things are possible and so it is.

This quality of bravery is one that will continue to be brought forth again and again in the coming days and it is this quality of bravery that is depended upon in the Heaven Realms. It takes bravery for one to step into their power and their Light and open it to the rest of the World, for this can be frightening for those of you who have never felt the need for the spotlight, or notoriety or fame of their person, for in this day and age, what this stepping forth in this way means is the opening up of your sense of privacy to the scrutiny of the entire World where all is known and sent from one place to another in a nanosecond. This requires bravery to overcome deep seated fears of reprisals and persecutions, for this is what has been experienced by most of you in times past. To radiate your Light and anchor it into the Earth is one thing but to announce it to the World at large is quite another. We salute those of you who have overcome this great barrier to the shining forth of your true selves.

It is now the time to shine forth your Light and be the shining example for the rest of the World. By doing this, you move through old paradigms and help all incarnated Souls to do the same, encouraging them to also set asunder all that no longer works and choose only that which serves their greater good and the greater good of all. By your bravery you encourage others to find new solutions, new ways of interacting with each other, new ways of thinking, being and doing. By your works, they shall know you, Beloved Ones.

I leave you now to ponder on these words.

I AM Archangel Gabriel
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Reply #26 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 5:18pm
 
Master, how can we enter the light without the help of those such as Archangel Gabriel?

Thank you, Gabriel.
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Reply #27 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 7:10pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 28th, 2011 at 5:18pm:
Master, how can we enter the light without the help of those such as Archangel Gabriel?

Thank you, Gabriel.


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Reply #28 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 7:12pm
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 27th, 2011 at 6:08pm:
I have looked within. I hated it.


I can understand that.
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Reply #29 - Apr 28th, 2011 at 8:36pm
 
id karnal and muso,

i would suggest forgive yourselves now...

for if you do not this paradigm will not bode well for thee...

and so it is

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