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Reply #30 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 1:18am

For a Light Bulb, you really are quite 'dim'.

Sin was the word used for the Moon/Luna that was Worshipped via the Temple of Ur.It was through Sin's inspiration upon the mind of man, that Writing was created and thus such things as God, Yalweh, Allah were eventually created over time and via later umbrella civilisations. So in essence, Religion was formed to express the ways of people in that region of the world and all the 'myths' that went with it.
You write, be it Text, Pen or fingerpaint - you are a Sin-Ur (Sinner).

In truth, the Sin-Urs vanished upon the first invasion of their civilisation for 'word' has spread that Writing was more valuble than Gold (God). They were smart enough to invent Writing (and the 'memory' that goes with it) and they were smart enough to hide much of their original works. They did leave some info ..."they'll be back" and when they do, the Monotheisms of today will have 'hell to pay'.

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Reply #31 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 4:25am

You write, be it Text, Pen or fingerpaint - you are a Sin-Ur (Sinner).

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this is a lie/mistruth with forgiveness

i do not sin

you misrepresent truth again

again the question remains unanswered

if any christians would have the care

why are you born with sin

the question remains with forgiveness unto all near do wells

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #32 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:20am It is not a lie, you are just an ill-educated FOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #33 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:40am it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 8:36pm: id karnal and muso, i would suggest forgive yourselves now... for if you do not this paradigm will not bode well for thee... and so it is Ok. I forgive myself. I hate the idea of a non-boding paradigm bearing down on me. Karnal - your turn now.
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Re: I Was Not Born With Sin
Reply #34 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 10:10am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 26^th, 2011 at 12:00am:

I have heard another christian say we are all born with sin, I did not like it and still disagree.
That baby has not sinned.

The consequenses of adam and eves sin will happen to that baby.
It'll grow old, get ill at times. make mistakes, it will siin in itself, and it will pass away.
That's a part of living on this world.

imho, the baby has not sinned.
The results of its' ancestors sinning will still occur though.

Had adam and eve not sinned, perhaps that baby would never get ill and never die ?
It'ld be perfect.

I had heard that some people take literal meaning from the bible, but I had hoped it was one of those myths you see on the internet.

WITHOUT TRYING TO BE TOO CONDESCENDING, IT HONESTLY DOES CONCERN ME TO KNOW THAT NORMAL, FUNCTIONAL, ADULT HUMANS, COULD BE OPERATING UNDER SUCH A BELIEF SYSTEM.

The basic premise that humanity had a perfect, temporal existence, with no pain, suffering, or death, given to them by a loving, benevolent creator, called, "God", to enjoy for eternity, but because a talking snake got a girl to eat an apple, he decided that now those creatures would be subject to a range of possible suffering that is so immense, it is doubtful whether any individual human could ever truly comprehend the multitude horrors that a man need to endure.

He did however promise that they had a chance to get back their perfect lives, if they devoted their lives to him, and has provided a whole network of spokesman who can tell you exactly what he wants you to do at all times, and how much you should pay for the privilege, but the suffering of this life is beyond your control, and random, and totally independent of any good or evil you may do. You could have lived a saintly life, and had the privilege to be disembowled and eaten alive by lions, or done nothing, other than been born to a poor african mother, and die of starvation before you could walk.
This randomly assigned suffering could be short lived, or life long, and lovingly bestowed upon you as the righteous punishment of a just god, for the whole talking snake affair, but if you get baptised, to wash away the original sin handed down to you because of that danged apple, and you are grateful to your benevolent god, he will reward you with an eternity of life without suffering.
Pity about the african baby that died, he is just shite out of luck.

Yeah, original sin, it makes sense if you really think about it. Wink

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #35 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:55pm Ok. I forgive myself. I hate the idea of a non-boding paradigm bearing down on me. Karnal - your turn now. __________ progress yes behold beloved ones and so it is namaste
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #36 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 5:58pm and again, where are the xtian flock i would have the care to press my assertions with you beloveds eyes yet cannot see forgiven namaste
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Re: I Was Not Born With Sin
Reply #37 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 7:03pm

You don't know anything Light,
hence why you need to write in the abstract,
in an effort to convince people you have something intelligent to say.

You clutch at straws in an effort to understand the Big Picture, but you are not prepared to make the sacrifice and leave your little protective (bubble) Pyramid of mental existence to truly understand.

Bow down in servitude to me your (Sith) Master and I will show you the true power of knowledge and the future of the world.
Get on your knees and grovel like the snake that you are.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95649 Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #38 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 7:16pm it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 28^th, 2011 at 8:36pm: id karnal and muso, i would suggest forgive yourselves now... for if you do not this paradigm will not bode well for thee... and so it is Master, no - not the paradigm! I forgive!
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Reply #39 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 7:40pm

Let's get real here people...'sin' is fun! we all know it and we all do it. Of the seven deadly sins, lust and gluttony are my personal favourites, with sloth a close third.

However I was not born with any of these habits. {Note - habits, not sins.) Anyone who claims we all have 'original sin' is a religious fruitcake of the first order.

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #40 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 9:59pm You clutch at straws in an effort to understand the Big Picture _________ the big picture the earth traverses the sun every 365 days the sun traverses the central sun alcione every 26,000 years do the math,as it were eyes yet do not see... forgiven namaste
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #41 - Apr 29^th, 2011 at 10:33pm Karnal wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 7:16pm: Master, no - not the paradigm! I forgive! I forgive you too Karnal. (for good measure) You'll never get to paradise with a paradigm.
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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #42 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 4:11am I forgive you too Karnal. (for good measure) _____________ this reality does continue to unfold,beloved ones have you noticed? with or without your approval or blessing... i would suggest forgiveness and go with the flow,as it were and so it is i LOVE you namaste -:)
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Re: I Was Not Born With Sin
Reply #43 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 4:42am

Now you're just talking Astronomy and Maths, both of which have a 'repulsion' relationship with one another. Then again, the USA is the world leader in Aviation (and always will be you could say) and all things with 'up there', alas Maths is not America's strong point - so much so, that they have been the cause of one Economic Crises and will so again 'now'. They also remain in Imperial and their so-called great Mathematic inventions have only led to destruction ...like Nukes.

Like I said - you know Jack. Roll Eyes

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it_is_the_light Gold Member Offline Christ Light Posts: 41434 The Pyramid of LIGHT Gender:	Re: I Was Not Born With Sin Reply #44 - Apr 30^th, 2011 at 2:07pm and again, where are the xtian flock i would have the care to press my assertions with you beloveds eyes yet cannot see forgiven namaste
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